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Denman has produced 3 exceptional performances (2 at Newbury, one at Cheltenham, all when conditions were ideal for the horse).
Kauto has won over distances from 2 miles to 3 1/4 on all distances and has produced many exceptional performances.
Denman simply wasn`t up to the job today under the conditions and for any moron to blame AP is pathetic. If you want to blame anyone blame PN, or the horses one dimensional abillity, ie to gallop the oppostion into submission with an inabilty to quicken.
Kauto has won over distances from 2 miles to 3 1/4 on all distances and has produced many exceptional performances.
Denman simply wasn`t up to the job today under the conditions and for any moron to blame AP is pathetic. If you want to blame anyone blame PN, or the horses one dimensional abillity, ie to gallop the oppostion into submission with an inabilty to quicken.
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MUPPET MUPPET
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thanks for that intelligent, well thought out reply :)
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Yorky they are two totally different horses saying kauto is far superior is dog poo
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good lad :)
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YORKYPETE. 21 Apr 22:47
thanks for that intelligent, well thought out reply hmm - perhaps inteligence would have been a more appropriate retort ;) |
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sorry raz, you appear confused :)
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kauto may well be superior but to suggest that today demonstrated that??????????????
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People will look back at the current crop of chasers and realise just how special Kauto Star actually is.
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today demonstrated that Denman cant act right handed or on fast going
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yiikes ! - :D
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Denman is a proper national hunt horse though a real unit and a great lepper so powerful out and out galloper he is a true national hunt horse imo. Kauto brilliant horse round flat track - Kempton on noce jumping ground amazing horse. For me not a proper real NH type like Denman. Two totally different horses but for me you cannot say kauto is superior
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apology accepted raz :)
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a stupid idea to run him today........think you will find that kauto hasnt run/won too often in april either
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apology accepted raz :)
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denman looked a very versatile horse today .. with the steering gone he still managed to get round the bends ,must take some doin ,once seen a drunk donkey doing similar .
but why did they run ? dont the greatest nh trainer know this ? |
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both truly great horses and niether would be as great without the other ,
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Why not?
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Without Denman, Kauto would be even greater shirley
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just my opinion , those gold cup battles have etched the pair on the memory like no others in nat hunt
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Its not like Lennon & McCartney
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Kauto`s versatlity is unique....Arkle would not have won a Tingle Creek, fact
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They are both great horses. :) Let's now post happy positive things....How about War of Attrition today?! Doesn't look ready to hang the stockings up yet but well done. Lovely end.
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good pont ast, Wars effort today was amazing and highlights the wonder that is NH racing
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Arkle wasn't wrapped up in cotton wool either.He went into handicaps carrying 12-7 and giving 3 stone.
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I never said he was, but he wouldnt have won a Tingle Creek
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Why not?
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wouldnt have had the speed.....
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Had no problem laying up with the pace carrying welter burdens and giving weight away.
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over 2 miles on fast going???
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Arkle won the Powers Gold Cup over 2 1/4 miles.
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on any going
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we will agree to disagree :)
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YORKYPETE. 21 Apr 23:12
Kauto`s versatlity is unique....Arkle would not have won a Tingle Creek, fact Whether he would or would not have won a Tingle Creek can be argued about, but to put 'fact' beside this statement just because it's your opinion when you have no way of proving it is just plain silly. |
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Actually the tingle creeks that he won were run on soft going and the opposition was pretty moderate.
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no need to get abusive yab, Im just stating my opinion, sorry if I wored it incorrectly. The facts are Kautos achievments over 2 miles compared with Arkles are far superior
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Kauto Star is an outstanding horse over 2m to 3m+ both left handed and right handed undulating and flat tracks on going from heavy to goodtofirm . He deserves his place up there with the greats for his King George performances. 13 grade one chase wins must be close to a record.
Denman was an outanding hurdler and is an outstanding chaser going left handed over 3m+ soft ground especially at Newbury. Two fantastic handicap weight carrying performances in the Hennessey only matched by Trabolgan and beaten by Arkle and Mill house. His grade one chase record is nowhere near that of Kauto Star although he was impressive in the 2008 Gold Cup on soft ground. I've just watched the race today today and I am not sure what the problem was, he was hanging and jumping left at the first two fences before they even got near a bend. Unruly and unsteerable today probably has as much to do with the ground and the hard races he has had as going right handed, (which is clearly not his game). Probably not the same horse after his heart scare maybe the Hennessey floored him. I would have Kauto Star up with the great Chasers for his wide range of performances over the years. I would say Denman has put in three great performances. |
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I don't think my post is abusive.
Something is not a fact unless it has (or hasn't) happened. |
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Thanks SA for confirming my views
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yab you say you are not abusive but why say my statement is plain silly.
Kauto ddi something that Arkle never did .....correct? |