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Nomadic Way
21 Apr 10 16:59
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Is how I'm reading the ratings so surely can be opposed on good going ?

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Brownes Gazette would have won
When: 21 Apr 10 17:00
It does. That said Denman's peak rating certainly won't have been obtained going right handed on good going!!
By:
quantize
When: 21 Apr 10 17:00
If the horse is on a going day it will win easily.

Key thing is how its travelling when McCoy has to kick on on the final circuit
By:
1st time poster
When: 21 Apr 10 17:01
if you dont act on track and ground ratings are worthless,his rating was earned on his fav track and going,his closet conditions to today would be at kempton last season what was his rating that day
By:
quantize
When: 21 Apr 10 17:03
If he dont like the going or going right handed, why bother sending him over to Ireland?
By:
Nomadic Way
When: 21 Apr 10 17:03
^^ can't be opposed
By:
1st time poster
When: 21 Apr 10 17:04
afterthought after scotish national
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dananders
When: 21 Apr 10 17:05
shouldnt be running . ground looks plenty quick enough . right handed track horse goes better fresh. they wouldnt be running if he had won the gc . connections getting greedy
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ReaseHeath
When: 21 Apr 10 17:05
He's been right handed four times. Won three times. The time he lost, he was beaten so far by MDB that the result could not be purely attributable to going right handed. Just my opinion.
By:
quantize
When: 21 Apr 10 17:05
**loves the horse so I am sure putting him away for the season would be on the cards if they did not think he could do justice.

Be interesting to see the on course market, if**is on Betfair, it will surely go off a hardended fav
By:
Nomadic Way
When: 21 Apr 10 17:06
Does anyone know what the offical going is being given ?
By:
quantize
When: 21 Apr 10 17:06
Dont think connections are being greedy, its not as if its their only horse and last chance of a winner for a while
By:
dananders
When: 21 Apr 10 17:09
yeah but what did he beat the 3 times he went right handed
By:
Bati Gol
When: 21 Apr 10 17:10
getting 11/8 omn him turning up seems value
By:
quantize
When: 21 Apr 10 17:11
I think he should be odds on, but I am just one opinion of many.
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 21 Apr 10 17:12
he did n't beat much but then one defeat when clearly not on a going day is n't irrefutable evidence that he does n't go right-handed either, would n't you agree?

You could arguably read more into the fact that he's only raced right handed four times - might suggest connections think it's an issue.

My point is - it does n't pay to be too dogmatic about these things.
By:
quantize
When: 21 Apr 10 17:13
Not been right handed much as Newbury and Cheltenham is where the big targets have been for him, and Kempton is left for Kauto @ Christmas
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 21 Apr 10 17:14
but he's got a 20lb penalty on top of him
By:
flyingbolt
When: 21 Apr 10 17:17
In two of his right handed wins he hung left, quite badly on one occasion. There are ifs about all the other runners too though. No bet race for me.
By:
secretariat
When: 21 Apr 10 17:18
Cooldine is a 10lb better horse this way round.

Denman is a 20lb worse horse this way round.

imo.
By:
Nomadic Way
When: 21 Apr 10 17:19
must admit thought he looked nailed on to go very close but some of you guys are starting to put me off.
By:
quantize
When: 21 Apr 10 17:20
At 11/8 he is priced to take a punt
By:
dananders
When: 21 Apr 10 17:21
he wouldnt want 1 of them off randy orton
By:
roo
When: 21 Apr 10 17:21
The winc nov hdle win was as expensive a race as ive ever had on bf, it was going into a field of sheep so badly was it hanging
By:
1st time poster
When: 21 Apr 10 17:21
to put it simply denman has become a hard horse to predict, going,jumping,doesnt put back to back runs together,lazy, dodgey at start do you need to be taking 5 to 4
By:
dananders
When: 21 Apr 10 17:22
im not saying jockey a negative but hs never won on him . youd be more confident if ruby was on
By:
1st time poster
When: 21 Apr 10 17:22
nearly fell asleep when schooling right handed at exeter
By:
sakrotly
When: 21 Apr 10 17:26
denham lay for me. punchestown; right handed course and jockey all negatives for me. gl all.
By:
pablo gonzales
When: 21 Apr 10 17:28
too many variables ..ground , right handed , question ,marks about temperament these days , hard season , race an afterthought ? , nowhere else to go , better with ruby or sam thomas up as far as this horse is concerned .....i can find far better 6-4 s than this ...any oithet horse without denmans reputation and without AP up given these imponderables would be 5-2
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EastLower Gooner
When: 21 Apr 10 17:29
barring a fall, unseat, brought down or carried out...or volcanic ash...should win cosily.
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 21 Apr 10 17:29
no bet for me - hope the big horse does his stuff and that Twist Magic has n't had a word with him about how to put one over on that McCoy]fella.
By:
Nomadic Way
When: 21 Apr 10 17:30
2.58 looks to good to miss sorry.
By:
Cptamerica
When: 21 Apr 10 17:33
Put a little on Denman to see what hte Hoohaa is
By:
sportingpics.co.uk
When: 21 Apr 10 17:34
Decent price on the tank. lets hope he handles the ground
By:
1st time poster
When: 21 Apr 10 17:40
yep loves going right handed ,i think not
By:
sakrotly
When: 21 Apr 10 17:41
well done layers ! of all the threads on denham - this was by far the most intelligent. imo.
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 21 Apr 10 17:41
he don't go right handed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By:
vinnie_roe
When: 21 Apr 10 17:42
he must of lost 2 stone going left
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 21 Apr 10 17:43
McCoy performed miracles to get him that close - good shout from Dave Duggan on PoS.
By:
Nomadic Way
When: 21 Apr 10 17:43
Mc Coy rode him well no way was AP a negative like so many say.
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