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davenufc.
19 Apr 10 22:21
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11/4 with PP currently. I wonder what price this will be with their 'faller insurance'.
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Report heynoodles April 19, 2010 10:23 PM BST
Shouldnt be running after 3 falls in last 4 starts. Russian roulette with the horse's life.
Report Win only - Sp only April 19, 2010 10:24 PM BST
^ idiot
Report infomaniac April 19, 2010 10:27 PM BST
harsh but fair
Report heynoodles April 19, 2010 10:28 PM BST
You can defend the sport against aminal rights nutters for accidents but you can't defend a notably iffy jumper running over fences again in Grade 1 company, imo.

Very bad decision by the owners.
Report Win only - Sp only April 19, 2010 10:29 PM BST
with your logic kauto would have been red carded as a novice.
Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby April 19, 2010 10:30 PM BST
But Kauto fell once as a novice.
Report infomaniac April 19, 2010 10:32 PM BST
What about Moscow Flyer then,

he fell on his third run every time he won a couple of races, they shoulda been warned off imo !
Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby April 19, 2010 10:33 PM BST
Upseated rider ;)
Report infomaniac April 19, 2010 10:34 PM BST
Look at this sequence,

1F21/F111F11/1U111/U111U1

I rest my case.
Report heynoodles April 19, 2010 10:35 PM BST
yep looking back mostly unseated rider while zaarito's falls have been very heavy ones from memory... thought he was lucky to get up from at least one of them already. Thought the horses came first with you infomaniac, quite surprised at your defence.
Report heynoodles April 19, 2010 10:36 PM BST
FF1F
Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby April 19, 2010 10:36 PM BST
Fell twice in 28 chases....what a horse :)
Report infomaniac April 19, 2010 10:36 PM BST
I blame them Islamics.
Report davenufc. April 19, 2010 10:40 PM BST
:-o Anyone fancy guessin a price?
Report infomaniac April 19, 2010 10:41 PM BST
4/1
Report ilikewavingatbuses April 19, 2010 10:42 PM BST
15/8 fallers if price stays 11/4 until fallers is available!!
Report davenufc. April 19, 2010 10:43 PM BST
Will win with clear round imo.
Report ilikewavingatbuses April 19, 2010 10:43 PM BST
make that 2/1
Report ilikewavingatbuses April 19, 2010 10:43 PM BST
agree but u kno yourself!!
Report flushgordon April 19, 2010 10:48 PM BST
3 miles slower pace, jumping not under so much pressure canter over these slow boats, if it stays must win.
Report bobby.s April 19, 2010 10:49 PM BST
Horse deserves one last chance at chasing. It's a very quick efficient chaser otherwise the longer trip and better ground will see a clear round
Report Sherbert April 19, 2010 10:56 PM BST
why not back to win and place lay? A good horse but i don't think i can back again as backed on its last 2 falls and didn't when it won :(
Report davenufc. April 19, 2010 10:58 PM BST
Followed the horse quite a bit and certainly lost a lot more than i've won. Hmm...
Report lapsy pa April 19, 2010 10:58 PM BST
seems to jump well until they quicken at business end,hope he gets around safely.
Report infomaniac April 19, 2010 11:00 PM BST
It's called jumping at speed,

a lot of horses (even good horses) make mistakes at the business end of a race,

why ?! Because they are trying to jump at speed !
Report kd109 April 19, 2010 11:03 PM BST
ilikewavingatbuses 19 Apr 22:42
15/8 fallers if price stays 11/4 until fallers is available!!


What time is fallers insurance available at?
Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby April 19, 2010 11:06 PM BST
Whats the point in fallers insurance?
The jumping factor is priced into his form.

If he wins, you have taken a shorter price.
If he loses, you lose and if he falls you get your money back.

Sounds like a bookies dream bet.
Report ilikewavingatbuses April 19, 2010 11:06 PM BST
paddy power, usually when place market opens so id say about 10.45-11am man! roughly, start checkin from then anyway as im sure his price will plummet!!
Report bobby.s April 19, 2010 11:07 PM BST
Sherbert 19 Apr 21:56

why not back to win and place lay? A good horse but i don't think i can back again as backed on its last 2 falls and didn't when it won


My worry is Condon under strict orders not to ask for big jumps and may lose out similar to CCB race
Report ilikewavingatbuses April 19, 2010 11:09 PM BST
true diamond but in this particular case its worth taking, he falls and u get ur dough back, thats also regardless of his position, he could be tailed off and fall and u get ur dough back!! if horse evans faller insurance usually about 8/11 so theres ur ratio!

gl
Report bobby.s April 19, 2010 11:09 PM BST
PP only put fallers 20 mins before off for Zaarito's last race
Report lapsy pa April 19, 2010 11:09 PM BST
yes info, i thought the 2nd last fall was almost as if he paniced and forgot how to jump.hope im wrong and its not a trait.
Report The Destroyer April 19, 2010 11:10 PM BST
I hope he is in the match bets :)
Report ilikewavingatbuses April 19, 2010 11:10 PM BST
that late is it bobby?? i though usually opened when place mket did, my bad!!
Report bobby.s April 19, 2010 11:12 PM BST
For that race it was anyway dont know how often that happens, it is usually as you said
Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby April 19, 2010 11:12 PM BST
.hope im wrong and its not a trait.

TBH it looks like one given his novice career so far
Report ilikewavingatbuses April 19, 2010 11:14 PM BST
he must have a massive chance, gonna get hammered!!hope he doesnt fall again for his sake, poor fella!!terrible to see, deserves to win a decent race!!
Report bobby.s April 19, 2010 11:17 PM BST
It'll be the first time it gets hammered since the champ bumper then always drifts.
Hard to know why he forgets to jump at one and is so good at the rest. Very eager to get to the other side Condon commented before
Report Happy Gambler April 19, 2010 11:17 PM BST
i love the horse but there comes a point when a horse has carried enough of my money.

with the doubts about the trip coupled with the iffy jumping it would have to be a fair bit bigger than 3/1 to interest me. wouldnt back an other horse in the race, and i hope zaarito wins.
Report ilikewavingatbuses April 19, 2010 11:18 PM BST
i think tomorrow is gonna be his day!!
Report RyanWe April 19, 2010 11:35 PM BST
Hey Ilwab. Backed Zaarito so many times.. even as a novice hurdler. So frustrating! I do seriously worry for this horse, and I think they are lucky he hasn't been injured yet. Backed Kempes 14/1EW with PP at 1/4 odds.. just hope it stays 8 runners. Can't say I'm overly confident about him getting the trip, but he loves quick ground and I willing to take the risk at the price. What you fancy in the Champ Chase and Champ nov race?
Report Moono April 20, 2010 12:25 AM BST
I really hope this machine jumps round & wins...This horses neck is made of rubber its took some crashing looking falls but always comes back cantering all over his rivals..Ive gone big on this without the fallers insurance..I will either have egg on my face or a women on my face..Tomorrow is Zaarito's time to shine..
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