canford cliffs

Shrood! :|

agree just a worry about falsely run race

wot price u think it will start at?

5/6

people will be on the second fav for vaule
charggggggggggeeeeeeeee!!!
ps im on at 33-1 for 2,000
best horse i ve seen in 30 years

hope it hacks up tommorow have 300 notes on @20s ante post

good horse but did you not see sea the stars? it will be many a year till that season is surpassed just a shame its off to stud and thats why i prefer jumps

i got 4k on at 66/1

just in from work how many runners in its race?

wins a 6f race in june and its a superstar and then put in its place next time out, not for me thanks.

i got 1k at 150/1

looks like alot of people will be looking behind fingers with the amount of dosh they are waiting to collect good luck to use all

i never saw see the stars with my own eyes
i ve seen canford work recently
jeez
work riders ride him long,short,
wins on the snaff

i like xtension who he beat with ease so on that horse form line must have a chance or 2

straightupanddown you know nothing

lay lay lay

What has Arcano done wrong?

i ve rode a winner at newbury in 1976
i had a bar of chocolate to celebrate
were i hadnt eaten in 3 days,to make weight i chucked my guts up..
i work ride now
so

why are people dismissing arcano at 10-3 who beat cc last year?
was the slow rail in france a big enough excuse to turn the form round next time they meet?

didn't see your post The Chain.

3.9 i should say. still good in what looks a match

straightupanddown ,does cc work with dick turpin?

he worked with soul city and another older colt in his last piece drew past them on the snaff
tuned him up nicely

What weights did the orss'es'es he was running against have please?

What was the training plan for those orss'es'es please?

paco boy is the other horse, he had 3 pound more
soul city level weights with canford

your full of s hit

anyone holding ap vouchers on cc, can wipe their arse with very expensive toilet paper.

Canford is ready to roll

Richard Hannon does not do nerves (at least he never shows it), but the Herridge camp will be "walking their box" over the next 24 hours as Canford Cliffs' dress-rehearsal for the 2000 Guineas comes ever closer.

Last year's runaway Coventry Stakes winner is odds-on to consolidate his classic claims in the Greenham Stakes at Newbury on Saturday, and Richard confesses that it is a case of "so far so good".

He declared:"Everyone knows how highly we rate Canford Cliffs. We have said that he is the best we've had and he looked awesome at Royal Ascot last year, but now he has to go and prove that he is as good, and maybe even better, as a three-year-old.

"The Guineas is his main target, so this is merely the dress-rehearsal and he has been off since Deauville last August. But, that said, he is a clean-winded horse who should be fit enough to do himself justice in this trial.

"Canford Cliffs has filled out through the winter and we were pleased with his gallop with Paco Boy and Soul City last week-end. He idled a bit but they are two good horses he was coming up with, so we were happy enough.

"Obviously, Arcano, who finished just in front of us in the Prix Morny, will be a big danger, but our fellow's preparation has gone smoothly and we are going up the road with no penalty, so there will be no excuses. The professionals are telling me that he'll prove to be a sprinter, but none of us here are going along with that theory. Ideally, he'll get a lead as he will settle better with it, but he has started to relax during the close season, and Hughesie knows him well."

However, Richard, who is also fearful of John Gosden's Bullwhip, stresses that Dick Turpin, who also makes his reappearance in this race, "could be the surprise packet."

He added:"If we did mot have Canford Cliffs, we'd be more than happy to claim Dick Turpin as our number one Guineas contender. He was a big two-year-old and has really blossomed through the winter, filling out in all the right places. Forget his last two runs at the back-end, he is far better than that, and he has been working well this spring."

You sure? I thought Canford Cliffs was giving Paco Boy 45lbs and a 30 length start, yet still managed to breeze past him heavily restrained on the bit? Dat's wot eye herd. :|

i fancy purdy to knock this dark chap out in the 8th :)

happy lagger
lay even money tomorrow
you WALLY!!!!!!!

So is idling and on the snaff the same thing ?

idling does usually mean they have gone past though. that's a good thing ;)

Richards playing it down

the work was WOW!!

so what will cc do, beat arcarno by 4L, he will have to just to be anywhere near sna or ep in the betting, this newbury race is never a good gns trial anyway.

waiting to see if money tree full banks the beast before unloading.

very shrood.

St nicholas abbey isn't a superstar
o'briens 3 year olds are no good
best of a bad bunch
if he was trained by j bridger had be 16-1

hannon might be bullish but arcano has beat him already so imo should be fav!!hard to ignore hannons expectations tho!a lot of bubbles birst if he gets beat tomorrow!!havent decided what im goin yet, tough call, form v hype!!

well i will be there tomorrow, and cc will not be carrying my silver, but good luck to anyone silly enough to have backed him through the summer, but whatever wins ,wont even smell dunlops at headquarters.

which is dunlops?

pimp

elusive pimpernel

ah yes of course ,cheers

hope you get food posioning from a hg roast stand to be honest

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how can you dismiss sna though? are you privy to his gallop reports. he crtainly has done it on a racecourse.
gotta admit he is only small isn't he?

Just watched that pimpernel run. Not seen it before. Was the time any good?

just over sec slower than delegators (in same conditions, will come on for run too apparently!!!

Ilwab, c'mon! if you're backing in this race and Arcano goes 3/1 then you have to chance him. Good day?

Brodie 16 Apr 22:17
3.9 i should say. still good in what looks a match

Just looked at Bullwhip's run and still think Dick Turpins last 2 runs last backend aren't a fair rep. of his ability. No way is this a match now, imo! :D

hey man, yeah 3/1 is simply too big for a horse who has done nothing wrong wrong!!but cant get away from hannon's hype, best in 40yrs wow!!was out all day matey one bet FUNKY GIRL insurebet with paddys 3 placs at evens, so good day, had 150 on!!u man|??

Arcano
Angus Gold, racing manager to owner Hamdan Al Maktoum: "The form is there to see and he won the Morny on his last start. He has been off a long time and we are sure he will need the run but everyone has been happy with him at home and we obviously hope he runs well."

Bullwhip
John Gosden, trainer: "He won his maiden at Doncaster but there are no races for him to run in. He would have to run against older horses or in his own group at levels and this will give us the chance to get another run into him and get some prize money."

Canford Cliffs
Richard Hannon, trainer: "Everyone knows how highly we rate him. We have said that he is the best we've had and he looked awesome at Royal Ascot last year, but now he has to go and prove that he is as good, and maybe even better, as a three-year-old. The Guineas is his main target, so this is merely the dress-rehearsal and he has been off since Deauville last August. But, that said, he is a clean-winded horse who should be fit enough to do himself justice in this trial. He has filled out through the winter and we were pleased with his gallop with Paco Boy and Soul City last weekend. He idled a bit but they are two good horses he was coming up with, so we were happy enough. Obviously, Arcano, who finished just in front of us in the Prix Morny, will be a big danger, but our fellow's preparation has gone smoothly and we are going up the road with no penalty, so there will be no excuses. The professionals are telling me that he'll prove to be a sprinter, but none of us here are going along with that theory. Ideally, he'll get a lead as he will settle better with it, but he has started to relax during the close season, and Richard Hughes knows him well."

Dick Turpin
Richard Hannon, trainer: "If we did not have Canford Cliffs, we'd be more than happy to claim Dick Turpin as our number one Guineas contender. He was a big two-year-old and has really blossomed through the winter, filling out in all the right places. Forget his last two runs at the backend, he is far better than that, and he has been working well this spring."

Thought I'd throw the contenders in too.

WD mate, watched that one win, took a while to get going didn't it! Haha well I had a 33/1 winner tillietudlem 1-45 at Ayr, I was in a generous mood and even shared it on here, you could of stuck your 150 on it's nose instead! Been a crazy 8 days anyway, I don't want the jumps to end! Guess it doesn't with summer jumping, but just not the same. Any big fancies for tomorrow?

cheers for quotes buddy!!yeah its hype v form, canford underpriced and arcano over priced, what to do!!evens might be big after the race:) then again so might arcanos 3's

33/1 niiiiice, good man!!yeah i just saw hannons quotes about it working well with german guineas winner and looked to be a bit of a gamble on it so i was hoping it was hannons dough, maybe it was!!havent seen the cards yet man, gonna have a look ovver em now!!you?

I just don't want to get sucked in by the hype. The Hannon team have no idea how good Arcano is do they, just because Meehan's not shouting his mouth off hyping up his horse doesn't mean he's not better. Probably a race to just watch anyway, but if Arcano goes 3's then I'll have a pop, as he definitely has more than 25% of winning.

AKMAL is too big at 11s, esp if ground keeps drying!i kno he has harbinger and purple moon to beat but has already beaten manifest and could get easy lead!!will def go off flying in front, hills good from front too imo!!

oh no doubt man!!!its pure hype, arcano cant be faulted!!!meehans usually bullish enough actually, strabge!!good in a way as the pressure is strangly on canford due to this hype!

Well I'm pretty big on Gone to Lunch in the Scot Nat.. backed it AP at 16's, I really really fancy this horse. Off 8lb lower than last year when he came 2nd, maybe he's just been running crap, but I really think he's been plotted for this race. His racing weight is also a lot nicer as had to lump 11-10 last year.

Already backed Kangaroo Court at 4/1 with B365 as I have reservations over French Opera at 20f and I think he carries weight really well so hoping he's flattered by solid performances in HC company. FO deserves to be favourite mind, but KC wasn't.. and isn't a 4/1 chance, hence why he's only available at 3/1 now.

Biggest fancy of the day is I'm Delilah in the 4.30 at AYR.. just forget chelt run, only lost a nose to Woolcombe Folly, this horse is miles better than 138. Am sure it will be an uncomplicated ride from the front and will try to drive them in to the ground, 9/2 on betfair atm, I can't believe it's that big.

Looked at the Akmal race.. I feared the trip might be a bit short? And god knows with all these FTO horses. I love the filly Clowance, not sure if trip will be too sharp and ground too quick.. obviously I know she was 4th in the oaks, but definitely wants some cut.

almost forgot scottish national tomorrow!!ill have a few bob on somethin!!!is fallon back tomorrow??that was mad, that horse is worth 1.25 million, or so i believe!small trainer too!

blimey ryan , what time was the 4/1 Kangaroo available please ? wish i'd seen that

clowance, ran a monster race against alandi, i remember because i backed alandi and was brickin watching him canter behind lol

Was 16-33 when B365 opened market for race and originally priced KC at 4/1. Says changed at 20.22. So a good 4 hours! You snooze you lose - haha!

Exactly ilwab, Clowance travels very well.. missed out on 8's with B365.. not sure I'm going to back in that race though, way too many angles.

jeez

sharp as a beach ball here today !

good chance tmrw imo

Also, Stoute has a 44% record with 4yos FTO in April who've had less than 7 runs in their career.. the stat is somewhere along those lines. Obviously Harbinger falls in to this category, who I thought was pretty disappointing after Goodwood. I thought I saw an above 40% SR for Cumani's horses FTO in April too. Oh the crazyness.

Fancy anything else Clouded?

yeah saw james pyman of rp sayin that v intereting!!im not delighted with how stoutes are running, i kno hes had a fto winner already but a few have under performed looking at their sp!!

Haha ilwab, I just think Stoute's are backed whatever form really aren't they. So underpriced all the time, well it appears anyway. His improvement in +4yos is like the worst kept secret in racing.

Youm Jamil in 2nd last at new, 10s on here thats massive!!

fair trade is the winner of that one tho!!!!terry norman, eddie aherns agent said that eddie told him this horse is decent as eddie rode work on it!!keep an eye on it tomorrow at least!!

Haha rather your money than mine, I don't think I could stay any further away from those maidens.. decent maiden though?

no it is a good maiden, remember will van gogh in good races last yr too!!its a gonna be a good one!!!fair trade decent tho!!!just havin a ruby mate, back soon!!

omg!!

a great 2y0 doesnt make a champion 3yo neccessarily
and in this case we have a great 2yo and nothing else

you're going to pay for someones summer holiday today :^0

[b]straightupandown. 16 Apr 22:04

5/6

people will be on the second fav for vaule
charggggggggggeeeeeeeee!!!
ps im on at 33-1 for 2,000
best horse i ve seen in 30 years[/b]

Haven't been racing much then !

pop

If that is the best horse Hannon has ever trained... Give up the game, shocking judge

:^0