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13 Apr 10
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errr? local communities can have a ref. to decide on the level of council tax they pay.
They can? right... so I can decide I want to pay zero ctax and then when there is no money for (example) meals on wheels and a relative of mine starves to death....
I can sue the council :D
what f*cking planet are these people on
They can? right... so I can decide I want to pay zero ctax and then when there is no money for (example) meals on wheels and a relative of mine starves to death....
I can sue the council :D
what f*cking planet are these people on
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It's an election they can say all sorts of sh1t ( tough on crime tough on the causes of crime was my favourite) and once elected just get on with the same old same old, just with extra taxes.
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please god let UKIP get in.
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If they said all council employees excessive PENSIONS will be halved, and then frozen per annum - that would save an absolute fortune ...
and free up an extraordinary amount of money for proper council services. |
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I hope they do not get in.
Cannot stand them nor the Lib Dems, make promises they know they cannot keep. |
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good god, UKIP actually made it onto the news....
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE let them get in - we need to get out of Europe |
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Aether - the only promise they have to keep is to get us out of Europe
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They are a bit too radical for my liking.
Although I do see the reasoning behind withdrawing from Europe. |
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radical how?
there are a damn sight more radical parties around |
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Withdrawing from Europe....
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you think that's radical!?
that's not radical mate, that's essential |
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When did we agree to be ruled by Europe?. I thought we went into Europe for trading purposes not to be dictated to, i thought that was why we won the second World war.
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exactly - and for a supposedly democratic country the handling of the vote over the Lisbon Treaty had more in keeping with a dictatorship!
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I think that if the UK does ever withdraw from Europe the cons will outweigh the pros.
I mean the UK as an industry is severly battered. We no longer produce anything (not on the level that the country once did). The EU enables the UK to trade freely, we go out we lose that. Although I do like the idea of bringing the Great back in 'Great Britain' I just think the UK in its current state needs Europe. |
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Yes our manufacturing base has suffered severe erosion in recent years - but why would we only want to trade with the EU? Don't China and America make everything we need anyway...
We don't gain from being in the EU these days - and the on-going open-door policy and the cost of rescuing Greece will make a bad situation even worse. If the EU was ever going to work (and I'm not sure it ever was...) it was because a group of reasonably wealthy countries banded together - those days are long gone. |
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yyw - your sense of probablilities seems to have deserted you temporarily
UKIP have absolutely no chance of getting any semblance of power whatsoever |
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ive just had a kip thank you
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hello
I didn't mean get into power; I meant get into Parliament. If they can manage just a handful of MPs then at least there will be a voice for an EU ref. I would imagine the BNP will also get some seats, and there are many EU sceptics so there is some hope that this issue won't be allowed to die. |
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i would never vote bnp i detest them but i am fully behind ukip , nigel farage is in a different league for straight talking .
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well that's two votes guaranteed :-)
At least NF hasn't been quashed by Brussels, Nick Griffin seems to have made very little impact. |
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state of the parties before dissolution of Parliament
Labour 341 Conservative 193 Liberal Democrat 63 Democratic Unionist 8 Scottish National 7 Sinn Fein 5 |
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re:UKIP will not win a single seat
BNP will not win a single seat I agree ST - they're both likely to win a lot more than a single seat :D Fancy a wager on this? |
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have you lost your marbles yyw?
I had you down as a very logical and realistic betfairian |
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look at kinnock for example , total snout in gravy trough and you never hear of him but his expenses are astronomical . some of my favourite youtube moments are farage blackguarding the eu self preservation society full weight for their incompetence and corruption .
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Do the Tories intend abdicating from the responsibility and expense of running the country? Will we still have to pay for non functioning M.P's ?
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c'mon then... stick your money where you mouth (keyboard) is :-)
Do you really believe that UKIP/BNP aren't going to get any MPs elected? You're far too intelligent to think otherwise ST. Call-me-dave is morphing into blair with each passing day... what other non-left wing party is there? |
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I don't want to take your money off ya hinny :)
actually if you fancy a bet on that, you should get some decent odds somewhere |
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a hinny! neigh, neigh....
hiding behind chivalry eh? anything to save two pounds :D |
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Agree Re : Withdrawing from Europe ( I always said 26 miles was never enough ! )
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withdraw from europe
scrap trident pull all our troops out of aghanistan freeze all immigration anyone who puts that lot in their manifesto gets my vote |
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Don't you have an y thing better to do!
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what, better than trying to improve the country!?
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withdraw from europe ;1) who is going to defend us in case of war .
2) our products will be so uncompetitive so uk plc will go bust . 3) the £1 pound against the euro and the dollar will go into freefall, forget about spanish holidays Just a small number of problems coming out of EUROPE WOULD CAUSE. |
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Cuckoo Land.
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1) who is going to defend us in case of war .
Why would you think for one moment that anyone in Europe would rush to our aid? 2) our products will be so uncompetitive so uk plc will go bust And what's to stop us selling to other markets? Do you think the prices we pay now are so wonderfully cheap? Not when you take into the account the other costs of belonging to Europe. Familiar with Betfair's better odds :-) and the premium charge at all :-( If we're getting such a great deal on prices - how come we buy so much from China? 3) the £1 pound against the euro and the dollar will go into freefall, forget about spanish holidays Why will that happen? Look at the likely cost of bailing out Greece - what do you think that's going to go to any member state's currency? That's just scaremongering and you know it. As for Spanish holidays.... ffs.... we're fast losing control of our borders, our health and education system can't cope with level of immigration and you're worried about your right to have two weeks eating sausage and egg in blistering sunshine. Just a small number of problems coming out of EUROPE WOULD CAUSE. b0ll0cks |
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The British public wouldn't have the sense to vote UKIP.
Look at the last lot they voted in! All they do is moan about them but do nothing about it. |
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BNP or UKIP winning a seat
PMSL |
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why are you PMSL?
just you wait sunshine... just you wait |
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yeahyeay ; The only solution for us to come out of Europe is to become part of the Unites States . Uk as a stand alone country , now the rest of Europe has formed is utter annihilation and poverty in this country taking us back 100 years . The Greek problem is been shared out amongst the community of Europe . You must look at the shape of Europe in 20 year time . The power house of China is a worry to the western world .
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I've got the perfect export for China! You know how unbalanced their male/female birth rate is... we can export female benefit claimants who turn out kids with conveyor belt effiecency! Proven fertility and we know they'll bed anyone!
We'll be world leaders in this - the map will be pink again people.... world domination awaits! |