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How do you see this one panning out on Thursday.
6 of his 7 wins have come at Cheltenham, the other 1 at Newcastle. Only try at Aintree came in a hurdle race when behind CDG and Wichita.
Best form on G/S so ground won't be an issue.
Is it worth taking on at odds on? Purely because of the track iyo.
6 of his 7 wins have come at Cheltenham, the other 1 at Newcastle. Only try at Aintree came in a hurdle race when behind CDG and Wichita.
Best form on G/S so ground won't be an issue.
Is it worth taking on at odds on? Purely because of the track iyo.
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Will be beaten by Naccarat. Ground will be spot on for him and his last 2 runs have been blinders. Too soon for Imperial imo
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had a hard race at cheltenham IC
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The best horse in the race but not known for running 2 races alike. A race to watch imho
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what a friend for me, nacarat will be taken on by caruthers and needs an uncontested lead to show his best
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Nacarat finished in front of him in KG aswell.
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i really think what a friend will win this. commander should be put away for the season
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Carruthers to sit on Nacarat shoulders and pounce.
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keep hitting the lay button CHELTENHAM form unlikely to stack up
not worth paying on the back side to find out? LAY LAY and more LAY |
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Is Carruthers good enough?
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nope, and had a very hard race in the gold cup
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I'd say so yes, also take out his Cheltenham runs his form fingers are impressive.
2121121151 5th coming when topweight at Wincanton. This season he's shown he doesn't have to lead. He's not in the league of Kauto Star/Denman off levels, nor Imperial Commander if given ideal prep = 6-8 weeks between races running left handed track. I couldn't back IC @ 1.9 anytime away from Cheltenham, never mind just 20 days after his last run. |
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On a line through Denman, What A Friend has about 3 tonne to find with the imperious Imperial Commander.
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fingers lmao - figures!
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IC is Bobby dazzlers horse, he has posted something on the antepost forum..
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Went around Haydock OK, so not just a Cheltenham specialist, and could run a stone below the Gold Cup and would still win, imo...
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3753 Cruithne 06 Apr 21:28
On a line through Denman, What A Friend has about 3 tonne to find with the imperious Imperial Commander. on his form without a decent break, imperial would be about 10/1 If your auntie had a c0ck, she would be your aunt. Anyone backing imperial at odds on is clearly insane. |
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Went round Haydock after long summers break tho.
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I remember him blowing up at Chelters in 4 runner novice race few years ago, after running there bout 2/3 weeks earlier.
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Millhouse, what's not to say that Carruthers isn't a stone better away from Cheltenham?
What A Friend is the danger no doubt, but I think that he needs a true test and the quicker the ground, the lesser his chance. |
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Ran on well enough in the King George when he wasn't fresh - it was more the early mistake that was to blame for his below par run there. Horses that are 'best fresh' often lose that tag as they strengthen up with age. As Millhouse said, he can afford to run (at least imo) a stone below his last run to dance up.
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Good racing thread imo. Enough good reasons to lay Imperial in this at prohibitive odds. Others will be suited by the course and ground on the day.
Win Only - has your Aunt got a c**k? |
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Im his Aunt ;\
And yes :^0 |
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I have never looked under my aunties skirt, I do not come from the norfolk area.
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:D
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ttt
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3753 Cruithne 06 Apr 21:42
Ran on well enough in the King George when he wasn't fresh he was beaten 64 lengths ffs 23 lengths behind naccarat, are you saying the early mistake cost him 64 lengths? |
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Yeah but in the 4 runner race at Chelt when beat at heavy odds on Tony Evans rode! no more info from me on that!!
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Lol, didnt he ride it 2/3 weeks before.
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christ he was beaten a nose by kauto star at haydock i hardly think he needs cheltenham to show his best form.
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it was after a BREAK ffs ---- nothing to do with anyth else -- if it was 50 days after the festival itd be a good thing , BUT NOT NOW
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haydock & cheltenham are galloping tracks aren't they?
aintree & kempton are tight tracks? |
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kempton isnt as tight as you are led to believe
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The fresh argument is a red herring - its going right handed thats the issue.
Its last 3 races when not fresh have been very poor but imo its more to do with them being at kempton & punchestown rather than the break issue. Those were its only 3 runs going that way - all very poor efforts. has raced when not fresh & run with credit in the past. I agree it is better fresh but its reappearance only 3 weeks later isn't a huge issue for me. Not usually an odds on bettor but it does appeal with so much in hand |
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looking at his form he's run 4 big races, the rest of his form he's won bad races or been gubbed.
3 have been at cheltenham after a break the other at haydock after a break. will he show his form at aintree after his best run 20 days ago? |
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It has to be Nacarat. Ran in the wrong race last year over 2m4f behind VPU. 3 Miles, good ground, tight track, perfect. Mccoy will be alive to the poss of a speed duel with Carruthers and it won't happen, he'll sit in behind. Agree with prev comments re IC. What a Friend is a quirky customer whom Ruby hasn't rode for a long time , i'd have stuck with ST. Whatever, Tom Georges yard is in great form and odds of around 9/2 will do for me.
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FAO of IC backers :
taken from AP thread (hope BD doesn't mind) ''.........Paddy will not be hard on him at all - he will be allowed to go out and enjoy himself, and if he isn't he will be pulled up.....'' GL ! |
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better get your lay in quick !
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Already layed, but will prob top up tomorrow, esp. if ground keeps drying.
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