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uptothelast
06 Apr 10 16:49
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That race just made me feel a little bit ill. Commiserations to connections.

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By:
Mandeville Anne Lover
When: 06 Apr 10 16:49
hope they all get up :( sickening to watch
By:
dharma
When: 06 Apr 10 16:49
was pretty awful to watch.... ditto your sentiments.
By:
jmdc
When: 06 Apr 10 16:50
The whole meeting has been a disgrace. Don't tell me the Irish care about horses!
By:
HawkWinger
When: 06 Apr 10 16:51
agree jdmc, sen some pretty awful scenes in the last few days. Maybe the ground is making them very tired.

:-(
By:
uptothelast
When: 06 Apr 10 16:57
You have to question some of these jockeys how seem hellbent on urging horses that are clearly exhausted over those big fences.
By:
Steamship
When: 06 Apr 10 20:00
Would be obviously very sad, but interesting to see what reaction there would be from Ireland if one of the jockeys who we have seen racing shattered horses was killed.Why do it and risk your own safety, scenes like this will kill the sport. NH racing will not be around forever we are priviliged and should treat it with care and caution
By:
vernon
When: 06 Apr 10 20:58
i wouldnt care less if they made jump racing illegal.
By:
uptothelast
When: 06 Apr 10 21:00
I adore jumps racing and nothing brings me greater pleasure.
Some of those races brought shame to the sport imo.
By:
par
When: 06 Apr 10 21:06
I thought the national yesterday was a case for the rspca, it was cruelty
By:
Win only - Sp only
When: 06 Apr 10 21:07
never seen so many tired falls as happened at the meeting, think todays card was held in greed.
By:
kevo
When: 06 Apr 10 21:16
Is putting a blindfold on a horse and then 4 handlers forcing the reluctant animal into the stalls not cruel?
Why do so many horses who fall in a race carry on jumping the fences riderless, do they think it is cruel?
By:
Win only - Sp only
When: 06 Apr 10 21:18
^ ridiclous comment. Did not see many of the dog tired fallers at fairyhouse bouncing merrily from fence to fence riderless.
By:
kevo
When: 06 Apr 10 21:19
I am trying to define what is cruelty.
By:
par
When: 06 Apr 10 21:25
cruelty is like hot

it is self explanatory
By:
kevo
When: 06 Apr 10 21:30
What about the Aintree meeting this week par, should it be banned on the grounds of cruelty?
By:
uptothelast
When: 06 Apr 10 21:41
kevo
Im not understanding your point here.
We are all aware that there is an elemnt of risk involved in the sport but if you have been watching the racing at Fairyhouse this week, then I cannot see how you would be trying to play devils advocate.
Watching horses running on empty 5 fences from home and too exhausted to pick their legs out of the ground is just nor horse racing as anyone would like it to be.
YES horse finish tired at the end of a hard race and YES, sometimes they fall but this week has been something else entirely.
By:
kevo
When: 06 Apr 10 21:41
"Win only - Sp only 06 Apr 21:34
3753 Cruithne 06 Apr 21:28


On a line through Denman, What A Friend has about 3 tonne to find with the imperious Imperial Commander.


on his form without a decent break, imperial would be about 10/1

If your auntie had a c0ck, she would be your aunt.

Anyone backing imperial at odds on is clearly insane"

I take it you will be watching the jump action again WOSPO
By:
Win only - Sp only
When: 06 Apr 10 21:43
of course, and i will watch fairyhouse tomorrow if it goes ahead. but I think they should have abandoned today, and judging by the rain as i speak, 2morrow will be a bloodbath if it takes place.
By:
kevo
When: 06 Apr 10 21:48
uptothelast,
I think that anyone who enjoys horse racing on the flat or over the jumps will experience days when horses are badly injured or killed. It doesn't matter whether the ground is fast or heavy horses do get killed.
But what do we do about it?
By:
uptothelast
When: 06 Apr 10 21:54
kevo
its not been a case of misfortune or bad luck though at this meeting.
its been about horses running on desperate ground (even by their standards!) over big stiff fences at the end of a long hard season (in some instances).
the horses that have come down heavily have been dead on their feet (pardon the expression) and you could almost predict their demise they looked so exhausted.

'what do we do about it' is a whole other matter.

just because i/we/they dont have the definitive answer to that, doesnt mean we should pretend that it hasnt happened.
By:
Hami
When: 06 Apr 10 22:06
were they all ok?
By:
kevo
When: 06 Apr 10 22:10
uptothelast,
I think we learn to deal and cope with it the same as we do when we see the earthquake and tsunami carnage with the massive loss of human life.
The point as to whether the meeting at Fairyhouse should have gone ahead, well those difficult decisions have been commonplace both in the UK and Ireland this winter.
By:
lapsy pa
When: 06 Apr 10 22:13
shocking ground, most jockeys who were beat pulled up, where as anyone with a chance of winning could not. dolling off the fences in the home straight second time round to stop tired falls would be a welcomed safety measure.
By:
Hami
When: 06 Apr 10 22:15
were the horses all ok?
By:
lapsy pa
When: 06 Apr 10 22:16
hami as far as i know they were.
By:
Hami
When: 06 Apr 10 22:19
ok thanks , missed most of it 2 day, i know there were a few deaths yesterday which is always hard to take for me
By:
anth699
When: 06 Apr 10 22:30
been more than a few deaths today,totally unnecesssary,one horse that fell at the last,in the last with the orange sleeves,was trying to refuse and the jockey pushed it on,just ran into the fence and broke its neck,shamefull imo.
By:
lapsy pa
When: 06 Apr 10 22:39
anth699 that was private developer, sorry i didn,t know it was fatal.
By:
kevo
When: 06 Apr 10 22:42
anth699,
That is the crux of the problem, when you see a tired horse beeing asked for one more last effort and it ends in tragedy.
Bluesea Cracker was looking tired and wandering about approching the last fence, her last effort ended in triumph.
By:
mitchell downie
When: 06 Apr 10 22:51
bordering on animal cruelty at times.
By:
Jobroke
When: 06 Apr 10 22:52
this meeting should not have taken place imo.
By:
maxshoe
When: 06 Apr 10 23:04
whats the chances of them racing tomoz ?????
By:
Steamship
When: 07 Apr 10 11:14
Kevo you are missing the point in NZ they have banned jump racing, scenes like the past 2 days will make us that love horseracing look cruel. Sorry but racing shattered horses to their deaths is not acceptable to the wider public. We know horses die all the time on all sorts of ground or at their stables but this was a big meeting in Ireland and someone should hold their hands up.
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