Making money on horses seems very easy.

Her name is maria santonix, google her

She proved publicly, by posting lay bests B4 each race, that she made money over a year

unfortunately did not reveal her selection method....:-(

ok i will put my selections on here in morning, luckily I can use the wireless at the office but can only use laptop on lunch.

sorry, maria santonix did horse racing lays, and only won around £100K i think

only 100k

thats a good start!!

its not the whole story though BJG

she only made 1/2 million on the poker

the other 1.5 million was made laying your NH bumper tips B-)

Good system imo ;\

oh i real easy , fool

fool?

RAVAGE AGAIN :^0

with brains studying form and mathmatics its possible skills develop over time i can get beetween an 85 and 90 percent strike rate

count, how do you back / lay if you are at work ???????

i use mobiloe

this thread becomes more surreal by the minute ...does the count realise the irony of this ....dare i say sarcasm of the throng who like me who are engaged in this thread .............every discipline and activity in the world involves hard work and experience as well as wisdom and shrewdness as well as many other factors ....apart from , according to the count .....betting and laying

you only clean toilets, how can you afford a mobile ?

Count,whats a mobiloo? Think I have a good idea, you may need it after munching on your kebab!!

give it a good old clean after please!!! hahahaha

Of course it can be done!!! age21's mate who is a pro earns a pony a day on here!!! he subsidises that with some window cleaning :D

...for some reason....most window cleaners look as though they have slept on a bench the previous night..

most pro punters seem to say you are doing well if you are up 10% over a years betting turnover going by that you would have to be willing to gamble over £200,000 to make £20,000 in a year and thats if it all goes well i no i aint got that cash to lose harry findley i am not

why do people try and complicate things?

Another thread making attention seeking pr*ck.
WALOFS !

most pro punters seem to say you are doing well if you are up 10% over a years betting turnover going by that you would have to be willing to gamble over £200,000 to make £20,000 in a year and thats if it all goes well i no i aint got that cash to lose harry findley i am not

You don't need to risk £200k to make £20k. You simply turn over the same £1000 two hundred times ;)

Ok just going to look at the three tipping web pages to collect my bets then I will post for you all.

Ok well as there are only two meetings today none of them has a NAP so my three lays are not avaliable.

When this happens I revert to my plan b to make the days money, as I am still working I only need to hot the £15 I have every day.

so to make the money today I will be putting £70 on Fluer de vassy to be placed. I was looking at each way but in these situations caution is needed.

I must add that where I say when this happens, it is infact the first time it has happened but I had planned in this anyway.

If I do quit work this is something I need to address before has as I will need back up plans in all situations.

if you quit work, are you going to declare yourself as self employed?

It's a shrewd play, the Count.....you've defo got a feel for this game imho

why would I need to be counted as self employed?

what you gonna do when you want to buy a new house or car, and need some sort of credit, show them your 3 month pl?

pmsl

get a life.

I am not wanting a new house, and my car is ok thank you.

you will one day.

have you got a brush like trigger?

who is trigger?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkg2C_EIea0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiS1IcKuG8s

oh ok.

:^0 haha love that broom hes had for 20 years :^0

Count - The worst thing you can do is give up your job. Believe me, you will be back begging for it back in 1 or 2 months. Very few people make enough money to live on on here in the long run. Sure, you may have a good week or even weeks but it wont last if you dont have an edge and i'm pretty sure you dont. Just enjoy making a few quid here and there to supplement yolur wages

'joined 19th March and made proit every day'

you must be real clever operator ! not long enough give it a bit longer and see.....
sure you must be fishing anyway (?) but massive amount of replies.

Good Luck

simple way of winning is to only bet when the ODDS ARE IN YOUR FAVOUR. you need a betting account with all the bookies and all the exchanges so you can always get the best available price on each horse you back.

it wont last, i agree with grahamwestley....messiah win a few quid and enjoy the fact that uve a bit extra in your pocket to play with.. dont** it all on here, do up your house or summit.

you've not even been registered a month, trust me heed the advice of those who know this game and make baby steps

at least he's given up pretending to be Polish


Count without the o 26 Mar 10:03
Hello I am from Poland, I am start to gamble on the English sport as more money avaliable to win.

I have found racing post but am confused by it, are ther any more simple form alternatives?

with a bit of luck he'll stop pretending to be new to the sport and/or forum, and them, maybe, he'll just stop

Nice one sugarfoot. Cleared up that load of carp then.

I can't believe this thread is still going ....

I am from Poland not sure my nationality

matters. We are all here to try and win

money I feel thAt I am good at this

when I joined does not matter as ithink less

opinion onthe sport is an advantage for me.

Anyway I am not here for arguments

Or childish antics so I will log off

hope the day is good for you all

Count without the o 30 Mar 09:12
Ok well as there are only two meetings today none of them has a NAP so my three lays are not avaliable.

When this happens I revert to my plan b to make the days money, as I am still working I only need to hot the £15 I have every day.

so to make the money today I will be putting £70 on Fluer de vassy to be placed. I was looking at each way but in these situations caution is needed.




ooops

lol

I take it you've done your 70 then Count and will not be giving up the day job?

Nt as easy wen u av to post b4 de race imo

Looks like a big recovery mission will be underway here :0

come on guys , don't kick the guy when his down . wait till he gets up .

Well my first loss ever

in a way it's a good thing as it let's me

know what a loss is like I do not worry

as I am confident I can win back the 70 and add 30

for the two days profit

thats the spirit ;)

The problem is where will you get the money to play with if you are only earning 12K a year or whatever it was?

first loss ever?

Count thats the attitude, a charlie chase mentality. You are very likely to be searching for the deposit button before the week is out.

I was gutted listening to the race

Really shocked that it did not manage

top 3 well I am sure many will have

good laugh

I am tempted to bet on tonights football ina bid

to recover today but think it's better to try again tomorrow

I find the flat, especially Kempton quite profitable Count. I might even give you a tip if you promise not to lay it...

all polish are positive thinkers , just coming to a strange land is brave enough . my advise is not to try and use gamboling as a main source of income . you are young , work hard save your money and put it towards getting a mortgage , as the rent you are paying at the moment is just going down the drain . anyway , good luck with whatever you do .

1/2 this is a wind up thread. Any takers.

I am not quite sure what to make of it anymore to be honest ....

Guaranteed wind up.i seriously doubt this guy is Polish aswell

It was the polish bit that gave in away 4 me.Extracting the urine.

Ok Elton thank you I will look out for it

I only lay the other tips because they are bad info

I can ONLY make money on horses. All other sports I lose.........with that in mind, I back only horses now and have done for nearly 3 years, without loss (on the year) and hope it will continue.

(That said, I do 2 bets on the football every week..........I back man u and lay Leeds, and on that, im winning too this year but thats on another account and win or lose, its my fun......I have recreational bets on soccer so I dont have them on horses....works for me.)

Count without the o 29 Mar 17:15
not been on here for long.every day has been shown a profit. wishI had found it sooner.
hasty
...............................................

Good luck

So angry fire is proof that it is possible to win

I am not sure what my nationality matters

and find it even stranger why people wish to be negative

but this place in my mind allows every onr the right of an

opinion so I welcome you all

So angry fire is proof that it is possible to win

I am not sure what my nationality matters

and find it even stranger why people wish to be negative

but this place in my mind allows every onr the right of an

opinion so I welcome you all

I do NOT profess to be making the 100k a year everyone on here does, I do however make a wage that some could and do live on. All these stories about systems etc, well I have my own WAY of betting but NOT a system. I worked for many years as a trader for a bookies and saw MANY winners......most were punters betting on tennis.....but I cant make that pay so dont. After that, it was horses and that works for me.

In all my years as a trader, I never saw ONE punter win money backing football......NOT ONE. Im sure people will tell me different but thats my experience.

tony bloom (nap)

happily i did not do my bet aw was going to back munich.

look at the forum tonight, loads of idiotic conversations.

this is about winning money at racing and i get grief.

best advice is here from old hand bet small enjoy it win small each day when you go big bang then bang again then panic then got to sell the car because you got the bug .small and enjoy it the big boys in here you in nappies to them premier leage you in the conference

If you are intelligent making money on horse racing really isn't that hard. There are thousands of mug punters out there whose irrational betting opens up plenty of good value opportunities for the shrewdies like me.

The key to success is to find out what works for you and stick to it. No matter how bad a losing run you go on (you will have bad runs), if you are sure of your ability, DO NOT change your methods and don't be scared into reducing stakes etc.

Only do this though if you have a decent bank to bet with and are very confident of your ability to be profitable long term. Otherwise youll end up on the streets.

ok had an emil tonight from a tipster i signed up for a free trail with.

As this is new I will not oppose him but actually follow his instructions.

they are to back shakalakaboomboom and oscar gogo to win equal amounts in the 2.40.

Selections currently 2.36, 2.64 to win. Back both?
Think you need to put the 'O' back in.

Forget Tipsters C'...for any reason.
They're about as real as Father Christmas
(or you!).....and therefore of little or no value.

It looks like the web sites are saving
their bets for evening racing which is
good as I will be home for that

When someone wins gambling --then someone else loses-- To say its easy is a rather rash statement- Its like the fella who watches mastermind and answers about 3 questions out of 35 and says oh that was an easy question-- Its only easy if you know the answers. The only way to make money gambling is to back the horses at a price better than the actual true price against them winning.
To do this you need to seek value and understand value- The sure fire way to make money is to back e way on 8/9 runner non handicaps when you have a very short priced fav. Many times a week you will find these oppotunity bets. The only trouble is getting on !!!!!
The other way to make it pay is to gather more knowledge than most and that takes contacts a good understanding of the maths of betting and Hard Work !!!!

Fail to agree with that

one ofbest replies though

I have to say I feel that racing people may get

Bogged down with too much opinion

we will see who is rigt as my bets will all be on here

It would seem I made mistake doing advised
bets and maybe this email trial period I should
oppose the tipper.
It may work to my advantage to use the 4
NAPs given and lay say the 3 bigger priced ones
or the three races with most runners.
Will put up evening bets later

one tipped calculating I will deposit some in
here and maybe lay it

did not lay it, shame.

Ok well one tip site has put laylas hero in the 6.30 so I will lay it.

Laying @ 15 :0


gl

yes only for £2

I have to say Ilike zigato so will put £5 on.

7.00 tipster nap dosti, so i win lay for £4

ps, will not waste £5's on my own selections again.

Your strategies are at best dubious at worst you are simply guessing and backing or laying horses for no rational reason. You give the impression that you know next to nothing about horse racing and will lose your bank and your dignity sooner rather than later.

The little I know is an advantage.

this thread will prove it.

That tells me all I need to know. Thanks! ;)

you got any mates that want to join betfair count?

you may fool some/many, but you do not fool me ...

you are an 'old-hand' trying to pretend you are a 'new-hand' ...

fishing pretty well, cos ya got some bites ... hahahahaha

but ya dont fool an old aussie like me, cobber !! :) enjoy your game ... :)

not asked my mates, why?

whats a cobber?

well it looks as if starting this post has started a run of bad luck.

I have now added a deposit limit on my account so if I have a bad day I have to cool off and not chase.

I am just logging onto tipping sites to check todays bets.

don't base your backs or lays on other peoples opinions therein lies destitution - find a sound reason for your bets or just don't do it - post all your thoughts on here and you will be derided whether you're right or wrong but you already know that !

Ok well it seems none have a NAP today so rather that messing around I will take it as a no bet day
and maybe find a bet in tonights football to make me the £15

There you go ;)

Nothing is easy on here.