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.Marksman.
13 Apr 25 16:01
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Zarigana won at ParisLongchamp today at 1 mile and, being a grand daughter of Zarkava, I would have thought that the Arc could be a realistic target.  However, F-H Graffard (trainer) said he would keep her to 1 mile for the time being.

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By:
elisjohn
When: 13 Apr 25 16:45
french gns, then diane would be the logical step for me
By:
Smoky Hill
When: 13 Apr 25 16:58
Yes, I've had the impression she takes more after Siyouni, as she's got a lot of speed.  I'm not convinced she's a stayer.  She only ran for 300m today, so a fairly easy comeback despite having to be pushed out.  Perhaps the Coronation Stakes is more her thing.  No idea why she's joint favourite for the Arc at this stage.
By:
Smoky Hill
When: 17 Apr 25 17:11
Re this Zarigana filly, as suspected, Graffard has said today he does not want to step her up in trip and after the French 1000 she may go to Ascot presumably for the Coronation Stakes.   Ridiculous she is joint favourite for the Arc, I doubt she'll even be entered in it.  She's a miler.  She does remind me a bit of Bosra Sham though, and she got 10f.
By:
.Marksman.
When: 16 May 25 15:43
    almaqam gb m.ps. 4 a.        59,5 kg        ECD. WALKER   
    al riffa (fr) m.ps. 5 a.        59,5 kg        JP. O'BRIEN   
    economics gb m.ps. 4 a.        59,5 kg        WJ. HAGGAS   
    redentor jpn m.ps. 4 a.        59,5 kg        T. KIMURA   
    illinois ire m.ps. 4 a.        59,5 kg        AP. O'BRIEN   
    cold heart brz m.ps. 5 a.        59,5 kg        P. SCHIERGEN   
    shin emperor m.ps. 4 a.        59,5 kg        Y. YAHAGI   
    narrativo ger m.ps. 4 a.        59,5 kg        M. WEISS   
    ancient wisdom m.ps. 4 a.        59,5 kg        C. APPLEBY   
    ombudsman ire m.ps. 4 a.        59,5 kg        JOHN & THADY GOSDEN   
    deira mile ire m.ps. 4 a.        59,5 kg        OJ. BURROWS   
    sunway m.ps. 4 a.        59,5 kg        D. MENUISIER   
    giavellotto ire m.ps. 6 a.        59,5 kg        M. BOTTI   
    sevenna's knight ire m.ps. 5 a.        59,5 kg        A. FABRE (S)   
    white birch gb m.ps. 5 a.        59,5 kg        JJ. MURPHY   
    arrow eagle m.ps. 4 a.        59,5 kg        JC. ROUGET (S)   
    map of stars (gb) m.ps. 4 a.        59,5 kg        FH. GRAFFARD (S)   
    internaute (ire) m.ps. 4 a.        59,5 kg        CHR. HEAD (S)   
    sosie (ire) m.ps. 4 a.        59,5 kg        A. FABRE (S)   
    jan brueghel ire m.ps. 4 a.        59,5 kg        AP. O'BRIEN   
    los angeles ire m.ps. 4 a.        59,5 kg        AP. O'BRIEN   
    byzantine dream jpn m.ps. 4 a.        59,5 kg        T. SAKAGUCHI   
    nakheel (fr) f.ps. 4 a.        58 kg        OJ. BURROWS   
    doha (gb) f.ps. 5 a.        58 kg        RM. BECKETT   
    estrange ire f.ps. 4 a.        58 kg        D. O'MEARA   
    survie (ire) f.ps. 4 a.        58 kg        CLEMENT & HERMANS (S)   
    erle ger f.ps. 4 a.        58 kg        M. PECHEUR   
    tiffany ire f.ps. 5 a.        58 kg        SIR M. PRESCOTT   
    lava stream ire f.ps. 4 a.        58 kg        D. O'MEARA   
    tasmania ger f.ps. 5 a.        58 kg        SIR M. PRESCOTT   
    kalpana gb f.ps. 4 a.        58 kg        A. BALDING   
    dare to dream f.ps. 4 a.        58 kg        G. HERNON (S)   
    tamfana ger f.ps. 4 a.        58 kg        D. MENUISIER   
    friendly soul gb f.ps. 4 a.        58 kg        JOHN & THADY GOSDEN   
    regaleira jpn f.ps. 4 a.        58 kg        T. KIMURA   
    shaha ire f.ps. 4 a.        58 kg        JOHN & THADY GOSDEN   
    you got to me gb f.ps. 4 a.        58 kg        RM. BECKETT   
    aventure (ire) f.ps. 4 a.        58 kg        C. FERLAND (S)   
    azimpour ire m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        FH. GRAFFARD (S)   
    DARYZ M.PS. 3 a.        56,5 kg        FH. GRAFFARD (S)   
    ridari m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        M. DELZANGLES   
    midak m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        FH. GRAFFARD (S)   
    sea scout ire m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        SIMON & ED CRISFORD   
    tuscan hills (fr) m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        RE. FREIRE   
    PRIDE OF ARRAS IRE M.PS. 3 a.        56,5 kg        RM. BECKETT   
    expanded ire m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        AP. O'BRIEN   
    delacroix ire m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        AP. O'BRIEN   
    al aali m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        L. PONTOIR (S)   
    leffard m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        JC. ROUGET (S)   
    ruling court usa m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        C. APPLEBY   
    cualificar gb m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        A. FABRE (S)   
    purview gb m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        DK. WELD   
    new ground gb m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        HF. DEVIN (S)   
    dioptase (ire) m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        JC. ROUGET (S)   
    GETHIN IRE M.PS. 3 a.        56,5 kg        OJ. BURROWS   
    the lion in winter ire m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        AP. O'BRIEN   
    twain ire m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        AP. O'BRIEN   
    stanhope gardens ire m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        RM. BECKETT   
    starzintheireyes gb m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        RM. BECKETT   
    PARACHUTISTE (IRE) M.PS. 3 a.        56,5 kg        FH. GRAFFARD (S)   
    AKIDO M.PS. 3 a.        56,5 kg        H. GREWE   
    hotazhell gb m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        MME J. HARRINGTON   
    lifetimes ire m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        P. SCHIERGEN   
    croix du nord jpn m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        T. SAITO   
    alohi alii jpn m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        H. TANAKA   
    camille pissarro ire m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        AP. O'BRIEN   
    damysus gb m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        JOHN & THADY GOSDEN   
    nitoi usa m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        A. FABRE (S)   
    ORACLE M.PS. 3 a.        56,5 kg        A. FABRE (S)   
    PHINEAS (GB) M.PS. 3 a.        56,5 kg        A. FABRE (S)   
    uther (gb) m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        C. FERLAND (S)   
    tennessee stud ire m.ps. 3 a.        56,5 kg        JP. O'BRIEN   
    FRANKLY GOOD CEN M.PS. 3 a.        56,5 kg        MME V. HEAD   
    zarigana (gb) f.ps. 3 a.        55 kg        FH. GRAFFARD (S)   
    shes perfect ire f.ps. 3 a.        55 kg        CH. FELLOWES   
    SAFIA F.PS. 3 a.        55 kg        F. CHAPPET (S)   
    jones f.ps. 3 a.        55 kg        S. CERULIS   
    PEARLA IRE F.PS. 3 a.        55 kg        WJ. HAGGAS   
By:
A_T
When: 25 May 25 21:17
Fabre's Sosie today added the 9f d'ispahan to the 10f ganay - already a c&d winner at longchamp. until we see what the 3yos throw up he looks the best middle distance horse in europe. next stop the eclipse.
By:
Delashay
When: 27 May 25 10:18

May 25, 2025 -- 3:17PM, A_T wrote:


Fabre's Sosie today added the 9f d'ispahan to the 10f ganay - already a c&d winner at longchamp. until we see what the 3yos throw up he looks the best middle distance horse in europe. next stop the eclipse.


He loves Longchamp but not soft ground, anyone backing has that to figure. Mentioned to impossible that he was being aimed at the Eclipse elsewhere when 16/1, though wasn’t entered for the POW @ Ascot.

By:
Figgis
When: 31 May 25 15:14
No long term view on this year's Arc, but hilarious listening to ITV racing talking up the winner of the terrible Gp3 at Haydock.
By:
Delashay
When: 31 May 25 15:27
The Prix Du Jockey Club is tomorrow, no talk about it. Often has an effect on the market.
By:
elisjohn
When: 31 May 25 15:30
figgis agree, but thank god that Ed was missing ,
By:
Figgis
When: 31 May 25 15:39
Elisjohn, now we're expected to believe that the John Of Gaunt winner getting smashed into was just the result of average punters latching on to the trainer's form Crazy
By:
Delashay
When: 31 May 25 16:50
I latched and got on @ 10’s because I study form! Happy
By:
Figgis
When: 01 Jun 25 15:24
The French 3yos look absolute cack this year. I'd even include the massively overrated Zaringa in that, who, for me, would be no better than Gp3 in a normal year. Hard to see the French 3yos figuring in the Arc.
By:
Figgis
When: 01 Jun 25 15:24
*Zarigana
By:
Delashay
When: 01 Jun 25 16:48

Jun 1, 2025 -- 9:24AM, Figgis wrote:


The French 3yos look absolute cack this year. I'd even include the massively overrated Zaringa in that, who, for me, would be no better than Gp3 in a normal year. Hard to see the French 3yos figuring in the Arc.


That was the fear before the Prix Du Jockey Club was run 3:05, but there were unexposed sorts in there. Another bunch finish in a Classic and yet another slow early pace in a Group 1.
To think that people complained about French racing for them going slow then sprinting! The Brit jocks are at it too now!

By:
Figgis
When: 01 Jun 25 16:56
In my view French racing has been in decline for a good few years now. They still produce the odd top class 3yo colt, such as Ace Impact, but not as often as they used to. The standard of all 3 of their Classics run so far is as poor as I've ever seen.
By:
Delashay
When: 01 Jun 25 16:59
Have you read the article by Rouget about it? Very eye opening and compares it to that in Germany and Italy.
By:
Delashay
When: 01 Jun 25 17:03
It’s not what it was nor is the Arc meeting in terms of runners. Champions day put pay to that weekend I feel.

True the worst classics I’ve seen but that’s why O’Biden has won them, for years his record in France has been crap.
By:
Figgis
When: 01 Jun 25 17:04
No, not seen that.
By:
Delashay
When: 01 Jun 25 17:08
Haven’t compared the numbers entered for the Arc but when I had a look through talent seemed thin in terms of numbers entered by the French stables.

They are in transition  in terms of trainers also, wonder how long The Chantilly Sphinx (Fabre) will keep going for.

With Rouget being unwell those two will be the end of a great era when gone.
By:
Delashay
When: 01 Jun 25 17:15
Sent you it Figgis says he was deserted like rabbits by people whom he had called friends.

He made a very interesting point about lack of loyalty within humanity and not being surprised by it after what Covid showed us.
By:
Figgis
When: 01 Jun 25 17:30
Thanks Delashay. He's spot on about the idiocy of a "gargantuan menu". Also applies to the pile of turd that is dished up midweek in the name of British racing.
By:
Delashay
When: 01 Jun 25 17:36
Welcome, I agree, he always seemed to the point. Was interesting that he had to ditch the Deauville base to save the one that he started with in Pau - I’d of thought all was ok at his stage and success.

What he said about the top quality yards in Chantilly having the cream is an echo of here but also over the Jumps.
By:
elisjohn
When: 01 Jun 25 18:18
to be fair to french racing isnt uk racing absolutr pathetic as well  bar the dominance of mullins  and obrien , the derby trials have been an embarresment for uk , obrien winning with his also rans
By:
Delashay
When: 01 Jun 25 18:45
Covid affected travel from France and they’ve still held their own recently, the Eclipse and King George. The trainers that travelled have become less also, Freddy Head, Dupre, Delzangles but it’s about having the horses to do it with.

He won the ones that he wins normally, at Chester etc, Sandown was an exception but the best Derby trial has always been the Dante.

It’s one that he’s never done well in or sent his best, hence I said that it was strange that the Lion went there.

I used to like the Champion Stakes at Newmarket, it was a completely different test over ten furlongs. The one now isn’t the same.
Straight track racing over a distance is what sets Uk racing apart, in that it provides an altogether different  examination.
By:
brandyontherocks
When: 02 Jun 25 06:54
Once again the going description in France looks way off judging by the times.
Great ride from Lordan to give Ballydoyle another classic.
By:
Figgis
When: 02 Jun 25 16:29
isnt uk racing absolutr pathetic as well

Well at least the first two British Classics contained horses that were up to scratch. I'd argue that Field Of Gold would've been a worthy winner in a normally run race, even if I'm not convinced yet about the winner. Desert Flower might not have put up a wow performance against some ordinary fillies in the Guineas but with hindsight I think that was probably not run to suit and we should see a better performance at Epsom.

A lot of the middle of the week stuff though is absolute filth. Some of these animals are only recognisable as racehorses because they are to be found on a racecourse and they are indeed equine. It's like sticking me on the Wembley pitch with a Nike Flight and calling me a footballer. Easy pickings for any yard with a horse that's been working reasonably well, as the opposition are often useless.
By:
differentdrum
When: 03 Jun 25 06:49
Given that he should improve for the step up in trip, and softer ground, I think Cualificar is much too big at 33/1. He should be half that price. He was done for pace, and a poor draw in the French Derby. Everyone has jumped on the Graffard horses this season, but in recent days it has been Fabre mopping up all the maidens at the bigger tracks. Likely he has a decent bunch of 3yo's. Something may improve past him, but at the moment Cualificar is his best one.
By:
Smoky Hill
When: 03 Jun 25 22:42
This is as much a fillies race these days and I take one from these..
Kalpana... Aventure, and the recent unbeaten Prix de Royeaumont winner Sunly, ridden by Soumillon who made interesting gestures to the crowd when crossing the line, pointing his fingers as he does when he knows he's ridden a good one.
By:
Delashay
When: 04 Jun 25 08:09
The only worry (and a big one) with Sunny is Fabre’s record with fillies.
By:
Delashay
When: 04 Jun 25 08:16
I was quick to declare that the French 3 year olds were crap, but the one who’d caught my eye in the trials didn’t turn out for the Jockey Club.
Was beaten by the race fit Caulificar first time out over an inadequate trip. So with a degree of pragmatism I’ll hold myself from making that declaration again until after Saturday!!

I do also expect others from the PDJC to show up better over the correct trips same as in the Guineas for those who drop back to 7f.
By:
Delashay
When: 04 Jun 25 08:47
Also Sunny isn’t entered for the Arc or even Prix Diane as of yet. Might give an idea as to what Fabre thinks, as Sinileo only just recently been entered into the Prix Jean Adam.

Unless Fabre is mistaken twice it lloks like he knows what he’s got.

Sosie winning the two races he has, first time up the Ganay then dropping back to the 1m 1f Prix d'Ispahan is really quite something. Only his best could do that over different trips.

Six starts at Longchamp 5 wins and a 4th on ground that he didn’t like which might have tested his stamina, as we’re seeing signs of speed now that weren’t evident last year.
By:
Smoky Hill
When: 04 Jun 25 09:50
Sunly is trained by Graffard, not Fabre.  No she doesn't have an entry in the Arc as yet, I think she's taken them by surprise, but there are several wild card races that give automatic entry now, like the Jean Romanet at Deauville and the Vermeille, besides supplementing.  Sunly has automatic entry to the Grand Prix de Paris but doubt she'll go there, she's also in the Ribblesdale I think, but that may come too soon.   One to watch for me, but Soumillon doesn't always get it right, a few years ago he favoured Royeaumont winner Baiykara, who had a similar profile, to Jockey Club winner Vadeni, and that turned out hopelessly wrong.
By:
Smoky Hill
When: 04 Jun 25 09:56
Also it seems the Arc isn't on the horizon currently for this filly, either the Ribblesdale, Irish Oaks, or the Prix de Malleret at St. Cloud in July.  Things may change, I hope so.  They will be sticking to 12f.
By:
Delashay
When: 04 Jun 25 09:57
Yes my apologies you’re correct also about the wild card races and I recall Baiykara and I take gestures made with a pinch of salt especially when he cosies up to Ballydoyle. He’ll jump ship at the drop of a hat!
By:
Smoky Hill
When: 04 Jun 25 09:59
A colt I like is the Japanese Derby winner Croix du Nord, you'll notice he has an entry. Longchamp isn't always heavy going, so we cannot rule out faster ground horses.
By:
Delashay
When: 04 Jun 25 10:01
Graffard seems to know what he has, he indicated that Azimpour was his Jockey Club horse early so he might have been surprised but I’m not sure and want to see more from her. Didn’t think it much of a race beforehand, the Ryeaumont.

I find him a little hit and miss as a trainer. Lots of his runners come with hype also only to be turned over by a second string, very difficult to fathom.
By:
Delashay
When: 04 Jun 25 10:08
Balding’s Secret of Love gives us a line to Minnie Hauk.
By:
Delashay
When: 04 Jun 25 10:09
Connections will now deliberate over a host of high-class options which include a tilt at the Ribblesdale Stakes at the Royal meeting later this month or a trip to the Curragh for Classic action in July.

Barry Mahon, European racing manager of owners Juddmonte, told Sky Sports Racing: "She was very impressive and in fairness to Francis he has always held her in high regard, even last year as a two-year-old. She didn't get to the racetrack but he said she would be a good filly.

"Her first two races were impressive and I think she looked very good there today and is very exciting going forward.

"I asked Christophe about going further
and he said a mile and a half is good, that she relaxes well and accelerates well and not to change things at the minute.

That’s a worry!
By:
Smoky Hill
When: 04 Jun 25 10:36
She could be a stayer in the making..

I don't fancy Los Angeles, he had his chance last year and I think Kalpana will overturn their Irish form should they meet again.  Jan Brueghel is interesting in the Coronation Cup this week, that may be a pointer. Wouldn't be surprised if he beats Calandagan there and puts him into the reckoning.. I see he's entered and they want to lower his distance a bit. Uk/Irish top 3yo colts tend to have other fish to fry during summer and this race is not often their target.
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