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Rowley Mile
17 Jul 22 19:13
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A good 3yo finished second, beaten a head in 2009, Does anyone remember any decent examples? Realistically, a 3yo gets a 12 LB concession(I think) and I’d imagine it’s worth more finishing 2nd than winning the great voltigeur
Anyone any opinions on it as a leger trial and also the horse I was looking at, New London?
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Report Rowley Mile July 18, 2022 11:35 AM BST
2015: fields of athenry 5th off 118 with a 5LB claimer riding.
2009: changingoftheguard I 2nd off 107

Only two 3yo’s
Report Notsofastmyfriend July 19, 2022 7:29 PM BST
3 year olds can't run it now.
Report Notsofastmyfriend July 19, 2022 7:30 PM BST
3 year olds can't run it now.
Report Notsofastmyfriend July 19, 2022 7:30 PM BST
3 year olds can't run it now.
Report Rowley Mile July 21, 2022 7:23 PM BST
Saw none were declared, just presumed it was lack of thinking outside the box, silly me
Report Andriy July 22, 2022 10:05 AM BST
3 year olds have the Melrose, winner has a guaranteed entry / win and you're in, to next years Ebor.
Report sageform July 24, 2022 2:33 PM BST
And even when they could, with the 3yo allowance of 11lb, they needed a handicap rating of around 114 to get in.
Report Rowley Mile July 26, 2022 9:58 PM BST
Show me a year they’d have needed 114 to get in pls
Report sageform July 27, 2022 8:20 AM BST
That would require the lowest older horse to be 103 which does not seem that unlikely?
Report Rowley Mile July 27, 2022 8:06 PM BST
Had been looking at too many races 10+ years ago, I see 2019 would’ve been a problem, apologies
Report cryoftruth August 1, 2022 2:39 PM BST
I think that Tom Segal a while back suggested that the Ebor should be based on the handicap mark or official rating in terms of order of places allocated rather than on the weight to be carried..

I agree.

It would be a much more interesting race, as a 3yo could then run if they were officially rated 22nd or higher.

But instead the 3yos have been barred from entering and it’s become more like a listed race for older horses with maybe only 10lbs between bottom and top weight.
Report Rowley Mile August 2, 2022 1:53 PM BST
Indeed, it’s a kind of boring race with ridiculously good prize money now, bit like the stewards cup, you only have to look at the consolation races to see.
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