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03 Aug 21 20:31
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was looking into the entries of this horse . hes evens in the juddmonte coming off a break , looks like the irish champion is the target so he could blob their . also hes a 7/2 shot for the champion stakes and 8-1 for the qe2 . he was stopping in the jockey club imo and though it states soft , it wasnt cold autumn ascot soft . i think this horse may reroute to the qe2 at 8-1 . thoughts and opinions welcome
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Report gpz6316 August 3, 2021 9:44 PM BST
just thinking as the owners , evs in the juddmonte is a poor bet , irish champion all day , and then see . i think they,ll go to the qe2 to check out speed and not too harder race and finish with the b.c mile or turf depending on what they see in the qe2 . i,m thinking 8-1 with ladbrokes for the qe2 is the value for this horse
Report gpz6316 August 3, 2021 10:01 PM BST
just chewing the cudd on my thoughts . they may skip the dismal ascot ground and go straight to the b.c turf , now i think i,ve got it .
Report .Marksman. August 3, 2021 11:19 PM BST
Trying to guess Aidan's plans for his horses seems to be a popular pastime on here.
But he has already proven that he has the speed to win at a mile (and 7f Group 1 as a 2yo).  Now that he has proven himself twice at 1m2f there doesn't seem much point in dropping him down to 1m in the QE2.  But you never know with this stable.
Report impossible123 August 4, 2021 7:35 AM BST
I think Coolmore do not have a silver arrow over 10f unless the horse is yet to make racecourse debut. Neither is Mother Earth nor Love; St Mark's Basilica is closest to one thus the Juddmonte and Irish Champion Stakes most likely.

I think connections will duck the British Champion Stakes (if successful in the above), and the QE2 is too short.
Report elisjohn August 4, 2021 3:12 PM BST
well i wouldnt be surprised it.ll be the arc
Report impossible123 August 4, 2021 6:44 PM BST
The Arc for SMB with Snowfall and Love present? Also, High Definition who's on a redemption mission? SMB is the highest rated horse in the world (probably achieved over 10f) thus unlikely to be risked a downward reassessment over 12f. It's not within Coolmore's business model  running their best colt over an untested trip against their established 12f fillies.
Report gpz6316 August 4, 2021 9:54 PM BST
he wont go to the arc surely . i think its the juddmonte when he might be vulnerable as this looks like mishriffs big one till march . irish champion then a b.c . strange their isnt a 10f turf championship their yet . either a mile or 12f as far as i know . could he be double entered for draw reasons ??
Report PeteTheBloke August 17, 2021 7:01 PM BST
I think tipping him not to win the Juddmonte was impressive by the OP. Fair play. Esp. with the price heavily traded at odds-on.
Report Platini August 18, 2021 2:50 PM BST
No chance he goes to the Arc, AOB knows he'd get trounced there.
Report impossible123 August 18, 2021 9:31 PM BST
A rematch against Mishriff at Ascot on Champions Day. He'll have my backing too.
Report impossible123 August 23, 2021 8:43 PM BST
AOB is optimistic about him making the Irish Champion Stakes on 11th Sept; 5/2 ain't bad (if he turns up). The Qipco Champion Stakes is 16th Oct.
Report impossible123 September 1, 2021 6:39 PM BST
AOB: "If he goes, there is every chance he'd be (our only runner), without that written in stone."

Still not a certainty...even when everything is going to plan? As such this is reflected on The Exchange. Chicken to the end?
Report cryoftruth September 14, 2021 8:30 AM BST
A possible sign that Coolmore were desperate for him to win the Irish Champion was the riding of Ryan Moore.

Throughout the last 2 furlongs he set about blocking Tarnawa. It appeared to Weld that it was deliberate and he has 50 odd years experience.

It was probably unnecessary as the winner may very well have won on merit. But the rules of racing stink. It was a dirty ride and the winner should have been disqualified and Moore given a decent length holiday.
Report impossible123 September 16, 2021 5:53 PM BST
I think he's run his last race, and will be a no-show for Qipco Champions Day. His CV is laudable esp his performance in The Eclipse. Also, I do not think he'll run in a 8f race again or attempt a 12f for the 1st time either.
Report penzance September 16, 2021 8:52 PM BST
shame if they do retire him,Chmpn Stks & QEII Stks
look cracking races if the big guns show.I think
he'll run myself.Not as though he is unbeaten either.
Report Platini September 17, 2021 11:40 AM BST
Tarnawa cruised up to SMB in the latter stages of the race, only the shorter distance beat her.
SMB has the better turn of foot but only over a short distance. Tarnawa would have won cosily with another 50 yards and would absolutely laugh at SMB in the Arc.
Report cryoftruth September 17, 2021 2:46 PM BST
It is possible she might have beaten him over 10 furlongs but Moore ensured she was blocked and carried across the track all the way up the straight, a dirty ride for which under proper rules horse and rider would have been disqualified.
Report FELTFAIR September 17, 2021 7:55 PM BST
Report gpz6316 September 17, 2021 10:32 PM BST
not been looking at the gzs for a while and am a little confused why smb isnt in the bc turf . surely thats his bag
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