Epsom Derby 2021

so one placed in the last 10 years

Looks like a ledger hoss

If nothing else, at least I’ve got some value now. Happy enough with that.

The same bookies who are refusing to take bets from recreational punters, and **** claiming horse racing will not exist without their support through the present levy - a pittance in terms of their colossal profit - have trimmed High Definition into 10/1 best best price for this race. Pathetic!

I think it's high time their betting/gaming licences are under a stringent and radical review the way they are taking horse racing for granted and to ransom. They should be operating under a new licence that reflects the digital age and simplicity and surety of another colossal profit eg a tax on their gross turnover where a percentage of which allocated to horse racing.

Incidentally, the lame duck head honcho at the BHA Mr Rust out to be sidelined for even contemplating to go to the government cap-in-hand for a handout to support horse racing - a sport of kings. What a total pillock? I think he's lost touch with the sport entirely, and ought to be ashamed of himself for not batting for the sport.

I'm a horse racing fan and punter but no way can I support asking money from the government. I'd rather have no horse racing for 3 months whilst a new levy agreement is agreed (or not); money would be better spent on more socially conscious projects than supporting horse racing.

The blood-suckers of the sport ie the bookies are still making huge easy profits under the present levy; their colossal profits of many years from fobts should be spent on the sport, and not wasted or siphoned into the pockets of their ceo(s) **** mainly non-conducive for horse racing.

Mr Rust is a total pillock, and not good for horse racing. He's definitely virtue signalling, the bookies being his number 1 destination, I believe.

I’m all over Derab at a Billies boosted 55/1 for this.

A Khalid Abdullah homebred Sea The Stars half-brother to Enable in the care of John Gosden and so likely to be ridden by Dettori,

A very eye catching educational run on debut when second to La Barrosa at Ascot iver 7f. Winner won a Group 3 at Newmarket at 4/7 on Thursday and the very well backed 3rd at Ascot trained by Roger Varian hacked up next time.

Knowing Gosden he’ll find a nice easy race at Kenpton or Newcastle, or maybe Nottingham where Golden Horn won his maiden, before a Derby trial next spring.

Given his breeding and connections I’d have expected him to only be about 20/1, time to bet like men.

The winning time was over 9s above standard. Opposition?

Derab for me as well.

Strange that the 50/1 is still available for such a powerful yard.

Time to bet like men me thinks ?

I have taken the plunge an stuck a few quid on Lone Eagle @ 33/1 (365)

By Galileo I have  backed him most of his starts and surely they're dreaming of Epsom.

At the very least I can see him winning a trial and the price collapsing!

G/L.

well done if you got the big prices on high definition, he is into single figgas now ,sorting through ballydoyles derby hopes takes some doing and its prob now a question of which  has progressed through  the winter,  high definition won  on his debut  at the curragh coming from last to first in taking fashion, but just 3/4 of a length behind him was stablemate WORDSWORTH who ran a very promising race himself  and started fav for that curragh maiden . stoutly bred  by galileo plenty of stamina in the pedigree and always prominent he led near the finish only to be passed by the winner close home  both he and the winner have plenty of scope for improvement just think 50/1 is too big .

I be amazed if Wordsworth beats High Def in any race they meet to be honest, come from last, ran away from Words.

High Definition,looks more likely to
take a Derby trial in than the 2000G.
(O'Brien)

If High Definition wins this no punter can accuse AOB of hiding him; 6/1 is very short despite his impressive win from a seemingly hopeless position 1f out in his only outing. But, he'll be much shorter if winning one of the recognised Trials in Ireland. Let's hope we see a truly outstanding Derby winner since Golden Horn in 2014.

You're probably right. Only one figures in my memory though.

AOB nothing but good words about all his main charges from last season. Just over 5 weeks to 1st Classic at Newmarket. How interesting.

I've added Tasman Bay @ 100 to my Derab bet.

Interesting, looking at the market it is now 50, they must be scared of my miniscule bet ??

Derab declared at Newbury on Sunday for a mile maiden.
Not the sort or target I'd have expected if Gosden saw him as a Derby horse.

Can see now why they ran Derab over the mile.
He’s clearly a bit of a nut job and fought for his head for two furlongs meaning he had nothing left when the winner quickened. Surprised he was so strong in the market.

Hard to see him staying further unless they can teach him to settle.

Just had a little top up on Van Gogh .
Seems to be getting backed down in places .
Good luck all

Also, by Golden Horn and I like to back previous derby winners who have yet to win as a sire (if the form points to a chance). A couple of Camelot hosses entered as well but I like Beau and will be my only antepost. No word from Gosden, probably find out 2 hours after backing it's had a setback.

For the Derby sorry.