Over and out

..and no I dont intend to start laying instead of backing :)

This is a shame.  Have enjoyed our jousts down the years.  It's definitely harder but I think we can still come out on top.  Maybe give it one more go for Oaks and Derby.....?

Yeah, at least stay on the forum Eric. It's always been livelier for your contributions.

Enjoyed antepost over the years but the bookies, trainers have found ways to take away the value so even if you have those years of experience antepost it counts for nothing.

Some bets i have had on have had a possible payout of 6 figures. That is the dream. Knowing bookies pay (sponsor) trainers now gives me no confidence my horse will show up for the final leg of any of my dream bets.

Without the dream why take the risk.

Lessen your risk and potential ' 6 fig payouts' by waiting for more confirmation of definite runners.
If your selection criteria is sound, good  profits can still be obtained.
Good luck

I really dont trust trainer announcements of targets any more. I believe we are deliberately misled at times making the bad value on offer even worse. Some other trainers like Gosden deliberately tell you nothing.

It is unfortunate that selfishness is killing the game for punters and the open paid relationships between trainers and bookies is now far too close.

There are also owners, for example at Ballydoyle who are major shareholders in bookmakers. Conflicts of interests all over the place. A really bad time for antepost punters. I also believe the racing press knowingly mislead an awful lot for the benefit of bookie advertisers. Best left alone i think antepost is done now for backers to lumpy amounts.

Bye.

Bye