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IrisDeBalme
26 Apr 15 12:37
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Ok another stab at this and hopefully got the right horse this time...

There are two in my shortlist ANGEL GABRIEL and GABRIELS KING both owned by Dr Marwan Koukash at his favourite course.

Angel Gabriel should have won last years but was treated by a Spencer special went all around the runners but think he went too early.. and the other GABRIELS KING who was eye catching 2nd to Trip to Paris yesterday... He should have won that race but just kept on running into trouble... it was very stop start stuff...

but at that price (25/1) definitely worth considering at this stage.

Good Luck

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By:
IrisDeBalme
When: 03 May 15 21:41
Franny Norton on GABRIELS KING which is an eye catching ... draw not so important as will probably take off from a poor position anyway... but good racing weight... not much between him and Trip to Paris.
By:
Big_Issue
When: 04 May 15 07:51
Interview with Kowkash and he seemed keen on this one if it gets in.
By:
liberator of the oppressed
When: 04 May 15 09:13
Iris .. i'm on following your write up. Good luck. Down to 12/1.
By:
KipperRSA
When: 04 May 15 09:36
I like Duke of Clarence but will it be declared ?
By:
1st time poster
When: 04 May 15 15:09
are you suggesting a high drawn leg strain
By:
The Dragon
When: 04 May 15 19:38
gabriels king best price is 8/1 now
By:
Benjy
When: 04 May 15 20:47
Expect Trip To Paris to confirm form tbh.
By:
gamerawins
When: 05 May 15 06:00
If you ran the Ripon race again 20 times Trip To Paris would win it 20 times yet is a much bigger price.

Gabrials King is a clear lay at current odds imo.

GL
By:
IrisDeBalme
When: 05 May 15 09:51
Sorry not sure that's a fair comment gamer...

If you watch Gabriel Kings run it was very stop start... Trip to Paris had already flown...

If GK had a clear run... would have been a totally different story ... I expect GK to be in front of Trip to Paris this time.
By:
IrisDeBalme
When: 05 May 15 09:56
Anyway, Marwan Koukash horses no excuse this time 5 horses - 3 drawn low...

GABRIEL STAR (Drawn 2)
GABRIEL KING (Drawn 3)
ANGEL GABRIEL (Drawn 5)

Really happy that Norton is on King but worry is whether Hamilton had a choice or not ?
By:
bexley
When: 05 May 15 11:16

May 5, 2015 -- 6:00AM, gamerawins wrote:


If you ran the Ripon race again 20 times Trip To Paris would win it 20 times yet is a much bigger price.Gabrials King is a clear lay at current odds imo.GL


9 of the last 10 Chester Cups have been won by 5 to 7 year olds. Trip to Paris is a 4yo

Trip to Paris had a fitness advantage that day, being its 3rd run of the season and Gabrial Kings seasonal reappearance

The draw is obviously vital here and gabrials King got stall 3 to Trip to Paris 11

The gamble on Gabrials King is probably from the Racing Uk Interview where the Doctor said it was the pick of his runners as it would improve considerably from its first run and he thought it had half a stone at least improvement in it from that run

So after all that I'm not going to say Gabrials King will definitely beat Trip to paris but that the above more than explains the current difference in odds.

By:
bexley
When: 05 May 15 11:24
and as far as a lay at the current prices, I agree with you as its mainly a hype horse, the form doesn't justify it at all. I am on however at 12/1 so will be cheering it on :)
By:
Benjy
When: 05 May 15 20:41
I'm not convinced the draw is that important over this trip tbh.

Chester sprints there's a draw bias, 2m 2ff not so much... All I can see is if you want to be prominent a low draw may be beneficial.
By:
PJay
When: 05 May 15 20:44
You need the rail Benjy
By:
gamerawins
When: 05 May 15 23:55
RE: Gabrials King & Trip To Paris:

One is a 6 year old who has ran 44 times for 4 different trainers and was beaten 11 lengths in last years race from the same mark on it's 35th start, despite bagging a rail all the way round. He has no form thus far in his life to suggest he can win a Chester Cup and will need to improve significantly to win this. The chances of him finding the necessary improvement in his 45th race are seriously slim. His owner knows nothing about horses and has no clue what he is talking about so his comments are irrelevant except to suck in ill informed money.

The other horse has raced 13 times including a very nice close up in it's 6th race in a very hot 46k race over 12f at Royal Ascot when the yard were in terrible shape. True the yard is not much better now but is very dangerous with improving types like this, especially stayers. Trip To Paris also showed significant improvement for the recent step up in trip and absolutely hacked up @ Ripon, same as in his previous race @ Lingfield where he was asleep in a decent contest and didn't even have a race. Same again last day. Sure GK was blocked a few times but the winner was asleep and cantering. No way would GK have won that race under any circumstances.

Personally I wouldn't back either of them, but TTP should be a shorter price than Gabrials King. I wouldn't back GK @ 20/1 tbh. Even if he wins it would still make no sense.

Quick Jack is the most likely winner and I would have backed it @ 6/1 but was put off by Hughes who is a clown. Can't back a horse from stall 9 in a max field at Chester with Hughes riding. That would be crazy.
By:
cj180
When: 06 May 15 11:06
gamerawins 05 May 15 23:55 Joined: 05 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 431 | Blogger: gamerawins's blog
RE: Gabrials King & Trip To Paris:

One is a 6 year old who has ran 44 times for 4 different trainers and was beaten 11 lengths in last years race from the same mark on it's 35th start, despite bagging a rail all the way round.

It was 3 wide all the way round until the home turn. I suggest you take another look at the race!
By:
gamerawins
When: 06 May 15 15:06
Correct.
By:
gamerawins
When: 06 May 15 15:20
BTW: My "correct" comment was before the race and in relation to Gabrials King not being on the rail for all of last years race.

I have no desire to say I told you so.
By:
IrisDeBalme
When: 06 May 15 15:40
deserved result... confirmed form... followed the right race wrong horse.. as was trying to seek some value...

but ah well you win some and lose some. Well done.
By:
gamerawins
When: 06 May 15 15:48
Unlucky, it's hard to get them!

No bet myself.

GL
By:
Benjy
When: 08 May 15 21:31
A pleasing result... First of the season Laugh
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