Horse Antepost
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In most circumstances, stake is lost.
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With respect RYDAL, that does not tell me what Betfair rule is.
Not everyone follows others like sheep. |
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On an ante-post bet? Of course you'll lose your stake.
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Lost stake unless it was balloted out.
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Bazz - you ask the same question every year.
The next step is where you start ranting about the injustice of the rules. Do you want me to find last year's thread? |
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These rules were made when it was illegal to bet on horses and such, a questioning of the rule would show that I was committing an illegal act,
since the ridiculous rules were changed but an honest approach by greedy bookmakers has not changed in that respect. It's a bit like politics where honesty takes a back seat, how can it be right that horse that is not entered for a particular race, should be classed as a loser, even you can't think that, pete. |
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^ That would only be true if you had backed something after the entries had been made (and no supplementary entries allowed). If you bet before entries and it's not entered then that's the risk you take!!
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Bazz - the ante-post price you take is (you hope) more generous than the day-of-the-race price, on the basis that
it includes a premium to reflect the risk that the horse won't run. If you bet a horse that cannot possibly win e.g. it hasn't been entered and cannot be supplemented, then you should get your money back. If it hasn't been entered (at the time of your bet) simply because no horses have yet been entered, then that's your lookout. In the following circumstances Betfair will void your bet: 1. Your horse was entered all the way to final declarations, but was ballotted out 2. Your bet was struck after the horse had died (or injured so badly it could not run again) 3. The horse was put into a market in error e.g. a 2-y-o filly in a race restricted to 3-y-o colts On the other hand, if your horse, at the time of your bet, could (by the remotest chance) win the race, your bet will stand. The layer risks his money, and you risk yours. Hope that helps. |
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Pete can you please be clearer.
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Is the op fishing?
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No. He's a bit old and forgetful. Not a bad bloke in a funny sort of way.
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You're an odd one bazzar...
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PETE, uses one example and strangely that happened to me the horse had died just before I
had placed my ante post bet for the Grand National, unfortunately at the time, I had decided to do without the RACING POST and was not up to date, did not find out I had backed a dead horse until about a fortnight later, I remember I had got 66/1 but cannot remember the name of the horse, seem to remember it began with a B. Never bothered to claim my money back but still believe that the bookie should not keep it even though written in the rules, just does not make sense!!!! |
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PETE and LAYING, thank you for naming me odd, much better than an unthinking sheep
who blithely follows anything without intelligence afore thought. |
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I said OLD Bazz, not ODD. But if the cap fits...
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Twenty years ago I recovered an antepost bet before the Derby. The horse was not entered so could not win. But now late entry stage might cancel this i.e. any horse can now be entered late.
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KINCSEM, how did you feel that you lost even though your horse was never entered?
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^ Errrrr......I think he is saying he got his money back Bazzar.....you sure you not on a wind up?
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Nope. He's senile.
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Senile he might be, but he can still remember Hyperion's magnificent Derby victory. He had sixpence e/w ante-post.
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It was £500, it was 1994. Crazy money! I must have been rich back then. Badblokes.
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Badblokes had it in their Derby antepost prices, along with every other nag with a pulse.
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