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The StanJames.com Greatwood Hurdle
£100,000 total prize fund, Cheltenham, Sunday, November 16, 2014. Two miles and half a furlong. For
four-year-old and upwards. Penalties: after November 2, a winner of a hurdle 5lb, no penalty to increase
a horse’s weight above 11st 12lb. Entries closed October 28, entries revealed October 30 (57 entries),
weights revealed November 5. Five-day confirmations November 10, final declarations November 14 –
maximum field of 24.
ROCK ON RUBY (IRE) 9 The Festival Goers Harry Fry
PURPLE BAY (IRE) 5 Bloomfields John Ferguson
GET ME OUT OF HERE (IRE) 10 J P McManus Jonjo O'Neill
SEA LORD (IRE) 7 Bloomfields John Ferguson
IRVING 6 Axom XLIX Paul Nicholls
VANITEUX (FR) 5 Richard & Lizzie Kelvin-Hughes Nicky Henderson
KENTUCKY HYDEN (IRE) 4 Simon Munir & Isaac Souede Nicky Henderson
HAWK HIGH (IRE) 4 Trevor Hemmings Tim Easterby
BLUE HERON (IRE) 6 Horwood Harriers Partnership Dan Skelton
MONTBAZON (FR) 7 David Sewell Alan King
WICKLOW BRAVE 5 Wicklow Bloodstock Limited Willie Mullins IRE
VOLNAY DE THAIX (FR) 5 Judy Wilson Nicky Henderson
GARDE LA VICTOIRE (FR) 5 Diana Whateley Philip Hobbs
CALIPTO (FR) 4 Chris Giles & Ian Fogg Paul Nicholls
SWING BOWLER 7 K Alexander David Pipe
ROMAN FLIGHT (IRE) 6 Favourites Racing David Dennis
DANEKING 5 Susannah Ricci Willie Mullins IRE
BAYAN (IRE) 5 Core Syndicate Gordon Elliott IRE
GOODWOOD MIRAGE (IRE) 4 Lady Bamford & Alice Bamford Jonjo O'Neill
VIBRATO VALTAT (FR) 5 Axom XLIII Paul Nicholls
BALTIMORE ROCK (IRE) 5 Roger Brookhouse David Pipe
RAINBOW PEAK (IRE) 8 Bloomfields John Ferguson
SIGN OF A VICTORY (IRE) 5 Matt & Lauren Morgan Nicky Henderson
HAMMERSLY LAKE (FR) 6 Michael Buckley Nicky Henderson
NOBLE INN (FR) 4 M J Mulvaney Willie Mullins IRE
PEARL SWAN (FR) 6 Robin Geffen Paul Nicholls
KATGARY (FR) 4 Andrea & Graham Wylie Paul Nicholls
MIJHAAR 6 Bloomfields John Ferguson
PINE CREEK 6 Bloomfields John Ferguson
ART MAURESQUE (FR) 4 Mrs Johnny de la Hey Paul Nicholls
OLOFI (FR) 8 McNeill Family Tom George
MOUNTAIN KING 5 Diana Whateley Philip Hobbs
LE FIN BOIS (FR) 4 Power Panels Electrical Systems Ltd Tim Vaughan
RAVEN'S TOWER (USA) 4 Faithful Friends Ben Pauling
BARADARI (IRE) 4 Andrew Brooks Venetia Williams
FISHER 5 Exors of the late David Barker John Quinn
WAXIES DARGLE 5 J P McManus Noel Meade IRE
LASER BLAZER 6 Calne Engineering Ltd Alan King
ANATOL (FR) 4 Mrs Johnny de la Hey Paul Nicholls
ORGILGO BAY (IRE) 4 D Kierans John McConnell IRE
TAGLIETELLE 5 Olduvai Syndicate Gordon Elliott IRE
REGAL ENCORE (IRE) 6 J P McManus Anthony Honeyball
ASTRE DE LA COUR (FR) 4 The Front Runners Partnership Robert Walford
BROUGHTON (GER) 4 Bloomfields John Ferguson
VIOLET DANCER 4 D Bessell & Galloping On The South
Downs
Gary Moore
DUBAWI ISLAND (FR) 5 Andrew Brooks & Julian Taylor Venetia Williams
MINELLAFORLEISURE (IRE) 6 The Patient Partnership Alex Hales
AREA FIFTY ONE 6 Middleham Park Racing III Nicky Henderson
DORMELLO MO (FR) 4 The Kyle & Stewart Families Paul Nicholls EAGLE ROCK (IRE) 6 The Ivy Syndicate Tom Tate
EXITAS (IRE) 6 P W Middleton Phil Middleton
CASSELLS ROCK (IRE) 4 D Houlihan Tony Martin IRE
SLEEPY HAVEN (IRE) 4 Alan Baxter Anthony Bloor Dave
Cheetham
Jennie Candlish
CIVIL WAR (IRE) 5 Ashley Head Gary Moore
LUCKY BRIDLE (IRE) 5 Andrea & Graham Wylie Willie Mullins IRE
SHEMSHAL (FR) 6 Sheila Moffett Tony Martin IRE
CLONDAW WARRIOR (IRE) 7 Act D Wagg Syndicate Willie Mullins IRE

57 entries
11 Irish-trained

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By:
Fashion Fever
When: 30 Oct 14 16:55
Calipto will hack up !
By:
Howdi
When: 30 Oct 14 17:25
Vaniteux on the bit
By:
bazzar
When: 30 Oct 14 19:59
BJG, where there any weights when you got list of entries for
the GREATWOOD?
By:
BJG
When: 30 Oct 14 20:39
Weights on the 5th Nov
By:
deepingfox
When: 30 Oct 14 20:49
Handicap ratings are now on Racing Post website.

I had a stab at the stats for this race last might pre-entries, based on

- winner being 4-6 year old,
= choosing from the stables who target and do well,
- the fact that most winners ran at the Cheltenham Festival,
- a lot of horses aren't experienced in handicaps,
- and a good few have ran in grade 1 already.
- 140+ rated win most of the time

Two of my four horse shortlist from these stats, have entries, and I am not looking too far away from those two, with those being

GARDE LA VICTOIRE (P Hobbs) 144 rating - who is running rather than going chasing early season, after a handy seasonal debut at the weekend, and

IRVING (P Nicholls) - 148 rating the 7/2 Jt Fav for the Supreme Novices after hacking over everything over 2M in England last winter. Defo a Champion Hurdle aspirant, so at the weights he ought to run well, if recovered from his problem.

The only other I would look at, as I have tried and come so close several times in big handicaps, is BAYAN (G Elliott) - who has form similar to Rooster Booster, in that winner, had hit the bar several times in big field handicaps before sweeping clear here,  I font think Bayan has that quality, but he may knock at the door again.
By:
bazzar
When: 30 Oct 14 23:44
Thanks BJG.
By:
CVByrne
When: 03 Nov 14 18:42
Champion hurdle class horses like Rooser Booster, Detroit City, Sizing Europe, Khyber Kim & Menorah have won this race shifting big weights. Zarkandar would have run here if he hadn't met with a setback in 2011 and he won the betfair Hurdle off 151. So the first place to look at is to look at is who could be a 160+ horse in here and end up in a Champion hurdle. For the past two seasons none of the previous seasons top Novices ran in it, so it then is down to a handicap hurdle race, where one would find one on a winable mark.

This season, Irving goes for the Elite Hurdle at Wincanton. Which leaves Supreme 3rd Vaniteux as the stand out horse here who could make into a Champion Hurdle horse. they thought it was a year too soon for him in the Supreme but ran him anyway and he ran very well to be 3rd. He'll have strengthened up over the summer and a mark of 147 will be a lowly one if he is a Champion hurdle contender.

Jezki was on a Mark of 153 after his Supreme 3rd. What would he have done off that mark in a strongly run race like this? That's the kind of angle we need to start with. Class horses on a low mark will make light work of handicappers. Another horse that could fall into that category is Goodwood Mirage, he cost a fortune and didn't have the best Juvenile season. But he was gelded in the summer and had a bone chip removed from his knee. He'll have matured and he won fto in taking fashion already this season. The speed and gears he showed he came through the field was impressive. It's telling that Jonjo believes he can make up into a Champion hurdle horse, if he is right then 141 will be a lowly mark for this. Jonjo could also run GMOOH to control top weight and leave Goodwood on 11 stone.

I've backed Vaniteux & Goodwood Mirage
By:
king_james18
When: 03 Nov 14 23:05
steady money for Vaniteux today good sign considering stablemate sign of a victory hacked up on sat
By:
barnesey
When: 04 Nov 14 17:04
Was looking into having an ante post poke in this to try and grab a bit of value but seems very hard to know who is being aimed at this........I haven't read or heard much from trainers on intended runners!!!
Going by the money on here I can see vaniteux has had money for it and I'm sure will go close but was hoping to find something at least double digits
By:
BJG
When: 05 Nov 14 11:45
The StanJames.com Greatwood Hurdle
£100,000 total prize fund, Cheltenham, Sunday, November 16, 2014. Two miles and half a furlong. For four-year-old and upwards. Penalties: after November 2, a winner of a hurdle 5lb, no penalty to increase a horse's weight above 11st 12lb. Entries closed October 28, entries revealed October 30 (57 entries), weights revealed November 5. Five-day confirmations November 10, final declarations November 14 - maximum field of 24.

Owner
Age
Wgt
Owner
Trainer
ROCK ON RUBY (IRE)
9
11-12
The Festival Goers
Harry Fry
PURPLE BAY (IRE)
5
11-06
Bloomfields
John Ferguson
GET ME OUT OF HERE (IRE)
10
11-03
J P McManus
Jonjo O'Neill
SIGN OF A VICTORY (IRE)
5
11-02
Matt & Lauren Morgan
Nicky Henderson
SEA LORD (IRE)
7
11-00
Bloomfields
John Ferguson
IRVING
6
11-00
Axom XLIX
Paul Nicholls
VANITEUX (FR)
5
10-13
Richard & Lizzie Kelvin-Hughes
Nicky Henderson
BAYAN (IRE)
5
10-12
Core Syndicate
Gordon Elliott IRE
HAWK HIGH (IRE)
4
10-12
Trevor Hemmings
Tim Easterby
KENTUCKY HYDEN (IRE)
4
10-12
Simon Munir & Isaac Souede
Nicky Henderson
BLUE HERON (IRE)
6
10-12
Horwood Harriers Partnership
Dan Skelton
ORGILGO BAY (IRE)
4
10-11
D Kierans
John McConnell
MONTBAZON (FR)
7
10-11
David Sewell
Alan King
VOLNAY DE THAIX (FR)
5
10-10
Judy Wilson
Nicky Henderson
GARDE LA VICTOIRE (FR)
5
10-10
Diana Whateley
Philip Hobbs
WICKLOW BRAVE
5
10-10
Wicklow Bloodstock Limited
Willie Mullins IRE
TAGLIETELLE
5
10-09
Olduvai Syndicate
Gordon Elliott IRE
ROMAN FLIGHT (IRE)
6
10-09
Favourites Racing
David Dennis
SWING BOWLER
7
10-09
K Alexander
David Pipe
GOODWOOD MIRAGE (IRE)
4
10-08
Lady Bamford & Alice Bamford
Jonjo O'Neill
DANEKING
5
10-07
Susannah Ricci
Willie Mullins IRE
RAINBOW PEAK (IRE)
8
10-06
Bloomfields
John Ferguson
VIBRATO VALTAT (FR)
5
10-06
Axom XLIII
Paul Nicholls
BALTIMORE ROCK (IRE)
5
10-06
Roger Brookhouse
David Pipe
WAXIES DARGLE
5
10-05
J P McManus
Noel Meade IRE
FISHER
5
10-05
Exors of the late Mr David Barker
John Quinn
HAMMERSLY LAKE (FR)
6
10-05
Michael Buckley
Nicky Henderson
NOBLE INN (FR)
4
10-05
M J Mulvaney
Willie Mullins IRE
PEARL SWAN (FR)
6
10-04
Robin Geffen
Paul Nicholls
MIJHAAR
6
10-03
Bloomfields
John Ferguson
KATGARY (FR)
4
10-03
Andrea & Graham Wylie
Paul Nicholls
ART MAURESQUE (FR)
4
10-02
Mrs Johnny de la Hey
Paul Nicholls
PINE CREEK
6
10-02
Bloomfields
John Ferguson
OLOFI (FR)
8
10-01
McNeill Family
Tom George
LE FIN BOIS (FR)
4
10-01
Power Panels Electrical Systems Ltd
Tim Vaughan
LUCKY BRIDLE (IRE)
5
10-01
Andrea & Graham Wylie
Willie Mullins IRE
BARADARI (IRE)
4
10-00
A Brooks
Venetia Williams
RAVEN'S TOWER (USA)
4
10-00
Faithful Friends
Ben Pauling
MOUNTAIN KING
5
10-00
Diana Whateley
Philip Hobbs
ANATOL (FR)
4
9-12
Mrs Johnny de la Hey
Paul Nicholls
LASER BLAZER
6
9-11
Calne Engineering Ltd
Alan King
BROUGHTON (GER)
4
9-10
Bloomfields
John Ferguson
REGAL ENCORE (IRE)
6
9-10
J P McManus
Anthony Honeyball
ASTRE DE LA COUR (FR)
4
9-10
The Front Runners Partnership
Robert Walford
DUBAWI ISLAND (FR)
5
9-09
Andrew Brooks & Julian Taylor
Venetia Williams
AREA FIFTY ONE
6
9-09
Middleham Park Racing III
Nicky Henderson
MINELLAFORLEISURE (IRE)
6
9-09
The Patient Partnership
Alex Hales
DORMELLO MO (FR)
4
9-08
The Kyle & Stewart Families
Paul Nicholls
VIOLET DANCER
4
9-08
D Bessell & Galloping On The South Downs
Gary Moore
SHEMSHAL (FR)
6
9-07
Ms Sheila Moffett
Tony Martin IRE
EAGLE ROCK (IRE)
6
9-07
The Ivy Syndicate
Tom Tate
EXITAS (IRE)
6
9-06
Phil Middleton
Phil Middleton
CASSELLS ROCK (IRE)
4
9-05
D Houlihan
Tony Martin IRE
SLEEPY HAVEN (IRE)
4
9-05
Alan Baxter Anthony Bloor Dave Cheetham
Jennie Candlish
CLONDAW WARRIOR (IRE)
7
9-01
Act D Wagg Syndicate
Willie Mullins IRE
CIVIL WAR (IRE)
5
9-00
Ashley Head
Gary Moore
CALIPTO (FR)
4
0 0
Chris Giles & Ian Fogg
Paul Nicholls

57 entries
10 Irish-trained
By:
tweedledumbtweedletwat
When: 09 Nov 14 11:55
It's a tenuous link but wild blue yonder was neck and neck with sign of a victory when he came down at Newbury,I thought why would probably win at the time.wby finished a 2l behind vaniteaux after a poor passage in the supremes.sign of a victory lags up last weekend and is raised 11lb..I reckon vaniteaux is at least 7lb well in ..the point is half a dozen others will be too.katgary and hawk high have festival form too and with normal improvement expected will run lively races..it'll be a cracker
By:
bazzar
When: 10 Nov 14 12:33
This latest posting by you BJG, is not the one which will come later once the BHA have perused the withdrawals, it is too soon after the 12.00 midday time as stipulated!!!!
By:
BJG
When: 10 Nov 14 12:50
What?Confused that was the entries last week

5 day decs today
By:
BJG
When: 10 Nov 14 14:25
1    1413-    Vaniteux250      5    11-12    Nicky Henderson        147    144    152
2    1315-1    Blue Heron28      6    11-11    Dan Skelton        146    114    140
3    4011-3    Garde La Victoire22      5    11-9    Philip Hobbs        144    131    149
4    563711    Roman Flight23      6    11-8    David Dennis        143    129    151
5    165B-1    Goodwood Mirage32      4    11-7    Jonjo O´Neill        141    104    149
6    23211-    Daneking210      5    11-6    W P Mullins        139    116    149
7    12114-    Baltimore Rock226      5    11-5    David Pipe        140    132    147
8    33/F-2    Hammersly Lake30    6    11-4    Nicky Henderson        139    69    151
9    11dF20/    Pearl Swan645      6    11-3    Paul Nicholls        138    —    —
10    1F5-0    Mijhaar50      6    11-2    John Ferguson        137    133    148
11    1126-8    Katgary22    4    11-2    Paul Nicholls        137    126    144
12    5/167-    Pine Creek330      6    11-1    John Ferguson        136    133    152
13    100/U-    Olofi567      8    11-0    Tom George        135    —    —
14    25F0-3    Baradari15      4    10-13    Venetia Williams        134    143    152
15    21617-    Raven´s Tower23F      4    10-13    Ben Pauling        134    122    141
16    124-84    Regal Encore22      6    10-9    Anthony Honeyball        130    130    151
17    1406/2    Eagle Rock22      6    10-6    Tom Tate        127    130    146
18    F-4214    Shemshal28F      6    10-6    A J Martin        118    105    149
19    342111    Exitas8 5x      6    10-10    Phil Middleton        131    123    161
20    6/092-    Clondaw Warrior21F      7    10-0    W P Mullins        115    —    —
21    2532-4    Civil War18F    5    9-13    Gary Moore        120    127    145
By:
bazzar
When: 10 Nov 14 14:33
You have got it right eventually.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 10 Nov 14 15:56
David Pipe special coming up with Baltimore Rock imo. Handicap mark still in a good place having missed the Festival and ran well at Aintree. A line through  Sgt Reckless puts him very close with Vaniteux at the weights, yet he is 3 times the price. Proven on soft ground as well.

I also think DP has more chance of readying him for this as most of NJH's have seemed to need it.

Have taken the sponsors excellent offer of 5 places and dont think the 10-1 will last.

Goodwood Mirage was my next pick but fear the ground will go against him.
By:
BJG
When: 10 Nov 14 16:34
bazzar    Joined: 17 Mar 05
Replies: 6144 10 Nov 14 14:33 
You have got it right eventually.


Crazy
By:
victor0151
When: 10 Nov 14 17:18
Baradari looks way overpriced: he ran a belter on his seasonal reappearance on ground that would have been lively enough for him and is off the same mark here. At the Festival he was given a very poor ride but finished strongly in a race that is working out extremely well. Finally, 4 year olds have taken 2 of the last 3 runnings and Ms Pitstop has her horses in fine form.
By:
layingisthewayforward
When: 10 Nov 14 17:23
CCM who is paying 5 places? Ta
By:
sintonian
When: 10 Nov 14 17:53
Anything to add other than being pedantic, Bazz?!
By:
sintonian
When: 10 Nov 14 18:03
I agree re Baradari. His form figs over hurdles on Heavy or Soft ground are 12, and the 2nd place at Newbury should have been a win had he not blundered and nearly unseated. On Soft ground he seems best and off 134 he could be well handicapped under those conditions. However his jumping is far from great, and he makes mistakes in most races, so a 20 runner handicap is not exactly ideal for him at the moment. With positives and negatives to his chance I think 25/1 is worth a little bet. He could place but equally could blunder away his chances.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 10 Nov 14 18:35
Litwf.... Sid James is mate.

I like Baradari too. Venetia was very positive pre festival and had a good bet ew on him then and agree he ran well.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 10 Nov 14 18:38
Baradari still 25's with Sid... Fair play to them... Top price on most and paying top 5.
By:
layingisthewayforward
When: 10 Nov 14 18:51
Thanks mate
By:
unclepuncle
When: 11 Nov 14 11:31
Small e/w on Katgary @ 20/1 for me. Should have won the race at the Festival imo.
By:
sintonian
When: 11 Nov 14 15:42
Clondaw Warrior getting hammered,tops 13/2 now.
By:
Benjy
When: 11 Nov 14 15:53
Clondaw going to be horrifically in at the weights surely...
By:
dyno-layer
When: 11 Nov 14 15:57
Ive heard that Gerraghty goes to Ireland on sunday to ride Jezki ??

Interesting, wonder what will happen to the Greatwood favourite if that is true ?

May explain the moves for others in race and his slight ease.
By:
Shiekh Me Hand
When: 11 Nov 14 17:11
Mark Walsh rides Jezki.

Geraghty stays in the U.K for to ride for Nicky Henderson.
By:
John.W.Henry.
When: 14 Nov 14 08:07
Nasty little drift taking place on Vaniteux right now. Maybe its a ground issue ??
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 14 Nov 14 10:35
beginning to like Olofi's chances...
By:
sageform
When: 14 Nov 14 15:28
I could see Olofi. Tom George in blinding form in handicaps. Garde La Victoire was disappointing in the Supreme but has good enough form elsewhere. Goodwood Mirage could be chucked in though, he won despite McCoy being a virtual passenger last time.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 15 Nov 14 18:16
Gone for Baradari &  Pearl Swan, both will love the ground. I still think Baradari will be much better over 2m4f+.
By:
unclepuncle
When: 15 Nov 14 19:09
Very trappy race - Regal Encore and Pine Creek for me.
By:
Arklearkle
When: 15 Nov 14 20:31
Surely if Clondaw Warrior transfers his flat improvement to hurdles he must go very close. IF always seems to get in the way a bit.
By:
sintonian
When: 16 Nov 14 08:12
Jaysus, Baradari bow 12/1 from the 25/1, has he been price wised? Tempted to lay off at that price!
By:
sintonian
When: 16 Nov 14 08:13
*now
By:
BJG
When: 16 Nov 14 09:35
Yup is PW
By:
sintonian
When: 16 Nov 14 10:48
Ta. Hope he jumps properly today.
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