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sintonian
15 Sep 14 17:37
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I am yet to nail the winner of this race. Thought I had it last year when I had a big bet on Code of Honour at 20s but think he was seriously unlucky that day Cry

LOADS of entries at the mo so it's hard to call from a punting p.o.v.

John Gosden has 5 horses all at 20/1 and under.

One I have had a bet  on so far at a big price is Madeed. He has good 10f form (finished 2nd to The Corsican 2 starts back conceding him 7lb) and has the right profile for the race. Doubts for me are if the horse is a little soft/awkward and the trainer tbh, but at 33/1 with 5 places i'm happy to have a bash. OR is 95 so not guaranteed a run but I can see loads dropping out so we'll see.

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By:
slowerthanjohn
When: 15 Sep 14 21:41
Mellottie, Halling, Katy Nowaitie, Beauchamp Pilot, Pasternak, Formal Decree, Pipedreamer and last year Educate it's pretty easy reallyCrazy It is my favourite race of the year and been a very lucky race for me but to show what a difficult race it can be two years ago I backed Mukhadram off 101!!! I think this years race is very trappy as the betting suggests, Cornrow ran a great trial over 7f which I seem to remember previous winners Penny Drops and I Cried For You doing. Haggas has yet to win the race but went close many moons ago with Missile and he has a few interesting contenders Princes Trust, Our Channel. Zarwaan the PW selection is interesting as I'm certain he has a big race in him as he was running well when Dunlops weren't generally. Ran a great race in the Britannia when stopped at a crucial stage and that's hot form, the doubt the trip? could improve for it and maybe it's what he wants but is an imponderable.
By:
Millerracing67
When: 16 Sep 14 18:03
Think Prince of Stars is a group horse in the making.
Would be very interested if he is being aimed at this by Jonny G.
Zarwaan & Mange All are two that i have had a bit ew £££ on this season, both ran well in defeat (placed thankfully)Happy Would be another 2 for my list.
Not played on anything ante-p yet.
By:
BJG
When: 16 Sep 14 19:17
Agree about POS but surely no chance wat so ever of gettin in here bein 85th on the list
By:
slowerthanjohn
When: 17 Sep 14 22:25
A lot of the more fancied ones withdrawn and I'll stick with Cornrow.
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 18 Sep 14 07:36
cornrow for me too
By:
Jack Bauer '24'
When: 18 Sep 14 18:15
I fancy Cornrow too, he looks the right type to me.
By:
sintonian
When: 18 Sep 14 19:52
Well Madeed aint running so that's my bet down the toilet.
By:
Fashion Fever
When: 20 Sep 14 23:06
cant see air pilot getting in with a 5lb pen still
By:
sintonian
When: 21 Sep 14 13:28
It may sound like pocket talk but i'm gobsmacked Meehan took Madeed out of the Cambridgeshire prematurely. It's looks a mistake now that he was pulled out of yesterdays race at Newbury (the one Air Pilot won) due to soft ground.
By:
betilyerded
When: 21 Sep 14 18:10
I like the chances of Tres Coronas despite being 7 yo and running off a higher mark than last year. He has arguably improved and beat the upwardly mobile senockian star at Chester. Versatile regarding ground, you could say he easily won last years race drawn on the wrong side given that Educate ended up with the high drawn horses and there was a fair way back to the next low drawn horse. I backed Nanton as a 9 yo at 40-1 rated 102 and having previously placed in the race before so 40-1 will do me given hes a definite runner and has been aimed at the race.
By:
jameschildshieldwinner
When: 21 Sep 14 19:46
I believe Air Pilot only gets a 4lb penalty.
By:
bazzar
When: 22 Sep 14 16:17
SLOWER, I would stick with 101, this time.
By:
BJG
When: 22 Sep 14 16:53
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2    122011    Tenor10 7x      4    9-7    John Ryan100    110    98    117
3    131733    The Rectifier13    7    9-6    Seamus Durack67    106    104    119
4    356410    Energia Davos7    6    9-5    Marco Botti86    105    111    117
5    124035    Gabrial´s Kaka37      4    9-3    Richard Fahey50    103    110    120
6    13930-    Indian Chief377    4    9-2    David Nicholls29    102    —    —
7    0-0771    Queensberry Rules35    4    9-2    William Haggas63    102    95    117
8    72-797    Quick Wit126      7    9-1    Saeed bin Suroor82    101    99    112
9    2-5820    Boomshackerlacker57    4    9-1    George Baker57    101    100    121
10    272847    Spa´s Dancer10    7    9-1    James Eustace    101    110    120
11    501072    Balty Boys21    5    9-0    Brian Ellison62    100    105    122
12    512909    Tres Coronas28    7    9-0    David Barron64    100    118    122
13    108730    Pacific Heights21    5    8-13    Brian Ellison62    99    98    117
14    410742    Bronze Angel14      5    8-13    Marcus Tregoning89    99    112    122
15    11400    Sea Shanty16    4    8-12    Richard Hannon68    98    96    119
16    875102    Don´t Call Me7    7    8-11    David Nicholls29    97    99    122
17    47103    Velox14    4    8-11    Luca Cumani75    97    103    119
18    05-310    Soviet Rock113      4    8-11    Andrew Balding57    97    101    118
19    80-190    Niceofyoutotellme60      5    8-10    Ralph Beckett60    96    90    121
20    002757    Ingleby Angel14      5    8-10    David O´Meara35    96    108    122
21    001301    Big Johnny D17 4x    5    8-10    David Barron64    96    104    120
22    511170    Lawmans Thunder21    4    8-9    Ismail Mohammed67    95    73    97
23    254113    Bartack17      4    8-9    David O´Meara35    95    110    120
24    45858    Bancnuanaheireann35 7    8-9    Michael Appleby70    95    104    120
25    648604    Fort Bastion21      5    8-9    Ruth Carr27    95    111    122
26    611-13    Cornrow21      4    8-8    John Gosden75    94    96    122
27    302610    Dance And Dance63      8    8-8    Ed Vaughan100    94    106    120
28    200-16    Homage31      4    8-8    William Haggas63    94    100    124
29    111177    Genius Boy33      4    8-8    James Tate70    95    95    118
30    040600    Hi There9    5    8-7    Richard Fahey50    93    110    124
31    1-124    Maverick Wave14      3    8-7    John Gosden75    98    84    120
32    066002    Starboard33    5    8-7    David Simcock33    93    99    120
33    00-200    Yeager63    4    8-7    Jeremy Noseda80    93    74    99
34    357880    Chancery21    6    8-7    David O´Meara35    93    101    118
35    0-7162    Forgotten Hero14    5    8-7    Charles Hills69    93    107    122
36    05301    Tinghir7 4x      4    8-7    David Lanigan100    93    100    116
37    123121    Extremity21 4x    3    8-7    Hugo Palmer50    98    102    122
38    165405    King Torus17    6    8-6    Ruth Carr27    92    101    120
39    014226    Spirit Of The Law7      5    8-6    Richard Fahey50    92    104    118
40    622150    Sound Advice21    5    8-6    Keith Dalgleish37    92    105    121
41    72123    Buckstay21      4    8-6    Peter Chapple-Hyam67    92    112    120
42    4-4502    God Willing8    3    8-6    Ed Dunlop60    97    100    119
43    870954    Burano17    5    8-5    Brian Meehan100    91    99    123
44    220341    Tigers Tale21 4x    5    8-5    Roger Teal25    91    102    118
45    2/2121    Air Pilot7 4x    5    8-5    Ralph Beckett60    91    109    129
46    339152    First Flight7    3    8-4    Saeed bin Suroor82    95    102    123
47    363050    Truth Or Dare16    3    8-4    Richard Hannon68    95    95    118
48    121    Basem29      3    8-4    Saeed bin Suroor82    95    88    117
49    141604    Muharrer7    5    8-4    Michael Dods63    91    110    121
50    45-412    Ree´s Rascal48      6    8-4    Jim Boyle33    90    111    120
51    432290    Ansaab7    6    8-3    Alan McCabe33    89    107    118
52    513915    Munaaser36      3    8-3    Sir Michael Stoute93    94    93    121
53    711115    Top Diktat119      6    8-3    Gary Moore50    89    113    119
54    918184    Cashpoint27      9    8-2    Ian Williams67    88    104    120
55    028488    Ifwecan33    3    8-2    Mark Johnston63    93    98    119
56    314051    Knight Owl18 4x    4    8-2    James Fanshawe    88    110    120
57    000607    Mabait7      8    8-1    David Simcock33    87    84    107
58    005404    Moonday Sun7    5    8-1    Amanda Perrett50    87    107    121
59    31512    Mange All16    3    8-1    William Haggas63    92    108    124
60    383127    Angelic Upstart16      6    8-0    Andrew Balding57    86    102    120
61    52221    One Pekan33      4    8-0    Roger Varian86    86    110    118
62    744323    Jodies Jem42      4    8-0    William Jarvis67    86    109    119
63    40-11    Gm Hopkins15 4x    3    8-0    John Gosden75    91    91    120
64    221116    Puzzle Time15    4    7-13    Giles Bravery100    85    106    117
65    121185    Halation7    3    7-13    David Simcock33    90    103    117
66    849009    Busatto7    4    7-13    Mark Johnston63    85    102    124
67    111534    Arab Dawn7    3    7-13    Hughie Morrison100    90    96    118
68    221    Lacan107    3    7-12    Clive Cox82    89    86    115
69    11U626    Border Bandit17    6    7-12    Tracy Waggott50    84    100    117
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72    226467    Braidley28    3    7-10    James Bethell    87    109    117
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74    081210    Top Of The Glas7      3    7-10    Brian Ellison62    87    99    116
75    441340    Rydan28    3    7-9    Robert Mills50    86    107    115
76    36-370    Big Whiskey150    4    7-8    Edward Creighton50    80    —    —
77    221528    Coincidently7    4    7-8    Alan Bailey100    80    93    116
78    574700    Showboating11    6    7-8    Alan McCabe33    80    100    116
79    854164    Eurystheus15      5    7-8    Michael Appleby70    80    109    113
80    02411P    Miller Beach11    4    7-7    J F Levins50    79    103    107
81    1-2023    Miguel Grau34      4    7-7    Roger Varian86    79    84    111
82    364431    Karaka Jack35      7    7-6    Jim Goldie43    78    92    111
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84    315760    Another For Joe9      6    7-6    Jim Goldie43    78    102    113
85    252053    Ventura Quest7    3    7-5    Richard Fahey50    82    98    112
86    81217    Unison30      4    7-5    Peter Makin67    77    82    111
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88    061418    Desert Ranger10    3    7-1    James Tate70    78    93    106
89    962377    Tight Lipped15      5    6-13    James Eustace    71    87    107
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92    274565    Order Of Service9    4    6-11    Jim Goldie43    69    81    105
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95    237421    Plucky Dip7 4x    3    6-2    John Ryan100    65    81    87
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By:
slowerthanjohn
When: 22 Sep 14 21:30
Forgive me bazzar for being thickWinkI don't understand?
By:
slowerthanjohn
When: 22 Sep 14 21:32
But bet surely you have to mark up Educates effort to win last year for going off a straight course??
By:
sintonian
When: 22 Sep 14 22:17
Seriously cannot believe Meehan pulled out Madeed Crazy
By:
Facts
When: 22 Sep 14 22:55
Cornrow for me.
By:
deepingfox
When: 23 Sep 14 00:29
BRONZE ANGEL here, upward profile, top claimer rumoured to be lined up to take weight down to 8st 8lb and won the race 2 years ago, performing well over shorter LTO,  whats not to like.
By:
mac99
When: 23 Sep 14 08:24
Like about six right now foremost of which is Niceofyoutotellme, looks primed for a good run and has track form .
By:
Facts
When: 23 Sep 14 09:19
deepingfox     23 Sep 14 00:29 
BRONZE ANGEL here, upward profile, top claimer rumoured to be lined up to take weight down to 8st 8lb and won the race 2 years ago, performing well over shorter LTO,  whats not to like.


Looked at this , and you're right, what's not to like ! Happy  the current price c 20/1 is bound to shorten.
By:
stevo1
When: 23 Sep 14 11:12
Cornrow as well for me if settling cracking chance, Air Pilot may not run if ground firms up needs cut so Cornrow could go off around 5/1?
By:
sintonian
When: 23 Sep 14 11:21
Lots of people seem to be jumping on Cornrow ...why?
By:
IrisDeBalme
When: 23 Sep 14 11:35
BRONZE Angel likes it very fast... I have had my fingers burnt few times early season and was not declared becuse of the ground... is there a chance of that happening... as maybe some rain tomorrow... dry rest of week tho...
By:
stevo1
When: 23 Sep 14 11:39
Looks like lots of improvement to come after only 5 starts,good weight goes on any ground,trainer targets race.Not many declared open to much improvement apart from couple inc Air Pilot who needs cut in ground.
By:
sintonian
When: 23 Sep 14 12:20
Is 5 starts enough though? Experience is vital in races like this
By:
stevo1
When: 23 Sep 14 12:30
He has run in 5 double figure fields so far, lto was competitive 17 runner handicap but 30 horses plus spread across track who knows? But he is a prominent racer so that hopefully will help.
By:
bazzar
When: 23 Sep 14 13:49
SLOWER, it was deliberately cryptic, but you have access to
the past form which contained your 101 bet, I suggest a repeat!!!
By:
slowerthanjohn
When: 23 Sep 14 19:21
Well I'm hoping that you mean the jockey and not the horse BAZZARWink but if you do mean the horse he has an obvious chance as he looked very good that day but not many horses win 2 Cambridgeshires.

Cornrow is the horse with any amount of improvement and John Gosden does target the race and although the form of his last run isn't working out very well, it was an inadequate trip and after travelling well, he really rallied well and ran a great trial for this. I backed Air Pilot on Saturday and he was very impressive but this is a better race and the ground was soft will it be as soft this Saturday? He has form on quicker ground but you have to feel his ideal conditions are with plenty of give, plus I don't think it's ideal coming out so quick again?
By:
unclepuncle
When: 23 Sep 14 19:36
Tinghir and Fort Bastian for me.
By:
willie the milk
When: 23 Sep 14 19:49
If Air Pilot gets in, he wins
By:
unclepuncle
When: 23 Sep 14 19:56
^ On paper he does look a penalty kick but he did have a very long time off the track and then trying to follow up just a week after his comeback might not be easy. Look at Muthmir - based on his Portland win he clearly should have been a shoo-in for the Stewards Cup but got beat a week after his impressive York win.
By:
slowerthanjohn
When: 23 Sep 14 20:05
So Willie have you gone all in?
By:
IrisDeBalme
When: 23 Sep 14 22:22
Air Pilot... lto may be a bit flattering as won on soft going ... not sure a race on faster surface a week later will bring out the best in the horse...

Think he is a false price... will be bigger on Saturday... and dont think he will win

CORNROW and EDUCATE for me.
By:
sintonian
When: 23 Sep 14 22:25
12f on Soft at Newbs is so different from 9f on Good over a straight track at HQ, but we all know that. Impressive as he was, even if he gets a run, I couldn't have him on my mind tbh.
By:
willie the milk
When: 24 Sep 14 15:10
10f on Sat Sint although it was soft it still will de differing conditions.... but he won so so easy that 4points won't stop him and the likely fast pace will make it feel like 10f+.
Not "All in" but decent enough bet
By:
johnnyrant
When: 24 Sep 14 17:01
Think the going will be on the slow side of good tomorrow but even with heavy dews it should dry out by Sat, which makes me think the trip is likely to be a bit sharp for Air Pilot. Factor in potential bounce and too many doubts for me to justify his short price.
By:
Millerracing67
When: 24 Sep 14 17:13
What the going is like for 2moro wont have any baring on sats race?
Prob be g/f come Sat if weather is dry.
Would not expect to see the fav line-up if so.
By:
slowerthanjohn
When: 24 Sep 14 20:04
I don't the trip will be a problem at all for Air Pilot he's not short of speed and even the ground as long as it's not fast in any way. If he does make the line up which he stills needs 10 to drop out then I will be having a saver on him. I'd just prefer a longer time between the races, as even though he won easily but on that ground it still has to take something out of him and he has been fragile. I'll be honest and say I hope he's balloted out and then no one loses Wink
By:
johnnyrant
When: 25 Sep 14 10:30
Racing Post ‏@RacingPost 4 mins

Ante-post favourite Air Pilot misses the cut for Saturday's Cambridgeshire by one
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