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The Crabbie’s Grand National
Class 1, Grade 3, £1,000,000 Total Prize Fund. 4.15pm, Aintree, Saturday, April 5, 2014. Four miles, three and a half furlongs. For seven-year-olds and upwards which, up to and including March 17, have been placed first, second, third or fourth in a chase of three miles or more and which are allotted a rating of 120 or more by the BHA Head of Handicapping following a review of the horses entered and after taking account of races run up to and including February 9. Horses which are not qualified for a rating in Great Britain or Ireland at closing may also be entered. Such horses may be eligible for a weight providing the Handicapper is satisfied that the horse’s racecourse performances up to and including February 9 would merit a minimum rating of 120. To qualify, horses must have run at least three times in chases run under the Rules of Racing of the same Recognised Racing Authority up to and including February 9. At the Handicapper’s discretion, such horses may be allocated a rating. The decision of the BHA Head of Handicapping shall be final. No penalties after publication of the weights. Entries closed January 28, entries revealed January 29 (115 entries). Weights revealed Tuesday, February 11. First scratchings’ deadline February 25. Second scratchings’ deadline March 18. Five-day confirmation stage March 31. Final declaration stage 10.00am, April 3. Form figures supplied by Weatherby and are correct up to and including the racing of Monday, January 27.

Form  Horse    Age Owner    Trainer
010-501 ACROSS THE BAY (IRE) 10 Scotch Piper Syndicate  Donald McCain
13/304-4 ALFIE SHERRIN  11 J P McManus    Jonjo O’Neill
6R3-51P ALVARADO (IRE)  9 William & Angela Rucker  Fergal O’Brien
0-P5325 ANY CURRENCY (IRE) 11 Cash Is King    Martin Keighley
400123- AWAY WE GO (IRE) 11 O’Gorman Partnership  Willie Mullins IRE
0-33412 BAILE ANRAI (IRE) 10 Massive    Dan Skelton
20P-111 BALTHAZAR KING (IRE) 10 The Brushmakers   Philip Hobbs
11-1PRP BATTLE GROUP  9 Jolly Boys Outing   Johnny Farrelly
1/F0211- BIG SHU (IRE)  9 H Duffy/R J Robinson/Miss C M Woods Peter Maher IRE
13-2520 BOB FORD (IRE)  7 The Bob Ford Partnership  Rebecca Curtis
3/F1115- BOG WARRIOR (IRE) 10 Gigginstown House Stud  Tony Martin IRE
11FF-16 BOSTON BOB (IRE) 9 Andrea & Graham Wylie  Willie Mullins IRE
65-0510 BUCKERS BRIDGE (IRE) 8 Ann & Alan Potts Partnership   Henry de Bromhead IRE
42/-500P BURTON PORT (IRE) 10 Trevor Hemmings   Jonjo O’Neill
110-012 CANTLOW (IRE)  9 J P McManus    Paul Webber
155-P03 CAPE TRIBULATION 10 David Abell    Malcolm Jefferson
P-21221 CARLINGFORD LOUGH (IRE) 8 J P McManus    John Kiely IRE
0400-1P CHANCE DU ROY (FR) 10 Miss I D Du Pre   Philip Hobbs
1U-03U0 COLBERT STATION (IRE) 10 J P McManus    Ted Walsh IRE
1P0-332 COURT BY SURPRISE (IRE) 9 Nick Mustoe    Emma Lavelle
F11111 DOUBLE SEVEN (IRE) 8 J P McManus    Martin Brassil IRE
2131-5P GODSMEJUDGE (IRE) 8 Favourites Racing   Alan King
01R03/3- GOLAN WAY   10 W R B Racing 58   Tim Vaughan
3P1-250 GOONYELLA (IRE)  7 Ann & Alan Potts Partnership Jim Dreaper IRE
1162-0P GOULANES (IRE)  8 Roger Brookhouse   David Pipe
2110F0 GULLIBLE GORDON (IRE) 11 Karen Bowen    Peter Bowen
212P-42 HAWKES POINT  9 Graham Roach   Paul Nicholls
356-24P HIGHLAND LODGE (IRE) 8 The Unusual Suspects  Emma Lavelle
P513-35 HOME FARM (IRE)  7 Chris Jones    Arthur Moore IRE
P23413- HUNT BALL (IRE)  9 Atlantic Equine   Nicky Henderson
3400-10 IKORODU ROAD  11 W J Odell    Matt Sheppard
P-25P43 JUNIOR   11 Middleham Park Racing LI  David Pipe
211-F44 KATENKO (FR)  8 A Brooks    Venetia Williams
P0P-553 KAUTO STONE (FR) 8 Robin Geffen    Paul Nicholls
2-44110 KRUZHLININ (GER) 7 Paul & Clare Rooney   Donald McCain
51433-0 LAST TIME D’ALBAIN (FR) 10 Fontstown Syndicate   Liam Cusack IRE
16-060P LIBERTY COUNSEL (IRE) 11 Neale/Murtagh Partnership  Dot Love IRE
11/PP-50 LION NA BEARNAI (IRE) 12 The Lock Syndicate   Tom Gibney IRE
104F0U LIVING NEXT DOOR (IRE) 8 John Breslin    Tony Martin IRE
132-54U LONG RUN (FR)  9 Robert Waley-Cohen   Nicky Henderson
1P-130P LOST GLORY (NZ)  9 J P McManus    Jonjo O’Neill
01631P MART LANE (IRE)  9 Jim Stewart           Dr Richard Newland
5/3/1/P1/- MASSINI’S MAGUIRE (IRE) 13 Alan Peterson    Tim Vaughan
4-22112 MERLIN’S WISH  9 Miss R Toppin    Martin Keighley
20-2553 MERRY KING (IRE)  7 F Gillespie    Jonjo O’Neill
421-010 MIDNIGHT APPEAL  9 David Sewell    Alan King
121114 MINELLA FOR VALUE (IRE) 8 Maxilead Limited   John Butler
12/034/-P MON PARRAIN (FR) 8 John & Barbara Cotton  Paul Nicholls
13P-341 MONBEG DUDE (IRE) 9 Oydunow           Michael Scudamore
2U11-11 MOSSEY JOE (IRE)  11 Barry Connell    Enda Bolger IRE
241-331 MOUNTAINOUS (IRE) 9 Walters Plant Hire & James & Jean Potter Richard Lee
2-45031 MR MOONSHINE (IRE) 10 Douglas Pryde, Jim Beaumont, David van der Hoeven Sue Smith
1-2301P NIGHT IN MILAN (IRE) 8 Richard Collins   Keith Reveley
5-10661 ON HIS OWN (IRE)  10 Andrea & Graham Wylie  Willie Mullins IRE
23-F3P4 ONE IN A MILAN (IRE) 9 Paul Langford    Evan Williams
62P-0B2 ORPHEUS VALLEY (IRE) 11 No Horse Box Syndicate  Tom Gibney IRE
0P/124-0 OUR FATHER (IRE)  8 The Ives & Johnson Families  David Pipe
22/0-P50 OUT NOW (IRE)  10 Dermot Cox/Nelius Hayes        Edward O’Grady IRE
1/P10//02- PANDORAMA (IRE)  11      B Mellon/P McBride/Michael D Muldoon Noel Meade IRE
P0-FP13 PETE THE FEAT (IRE) 10 G J Larby & P J Smith  Charlie Longsdon
35F201 PINEAU DE RE (FR) 11 J A Provan           Dr Richard Newland
0/530P-1 PLANET OF SOUND  12 Charles Lloyd-Baker   Philip Hobbs
12-3004 PRINCE DE BEAUCHENE (FR) 11 Andrea & Graham Wylie  Willie Mullins IRE
00PU-20 QUANTITATIVEEASING (IRE) 9 J P McManus    Nicky Henderson
113/04P- QUEL ESPRIT (FR)  10 Jackie Mullins    Willie Mullins IRE
PP/4-P05 QUINZ (FR)   10 Andrew Cohen   Philip Hobbs
6050F-0 QUISCOVER FONTAINE (FR) 10 J P McManus    Enda Bolger IRE
145-F40 QUITO DE LA ROQUE (FR) 10 Gigginstown House Stud  Colm Murphy IRE
15211-P RAZ DE MAREE (FR) 9 Dessie Hughes           Dessie Hughes IRE
P023-42 REAL MILAN (IRE)  9 Diana Whateley   Donald McCain
001140 RENARD (FR)  9 ROA Arkle Partnership  Venetia Williams
P-56314 RINGA BAY   9 Malhi & Co.    David Bridgwater
1113-22 ROCKY CREEK (IRE) 8 The Johnson & Stewart Families Paul Nicholls
U20441 ROCKYABOYA (IRE) 10 P W Mullins    Willie Mullins IRE
1-F21P2 ROI DU MEE (FR)  9 Gigginstown House Stud  Gordon Elliott IRE
03F-000 ROMANESCO (FR)  9 Gigginstown House Stud  Gordon Elliott IRE
114P-01 ROSE OF THE MOON (IRE) 9 Middleham Park Racing XXXIII & Partners David O’Meara
30-3626 RUBI LIGHT (FR)  9 Bill Hennessy         Robbie Hennessy IRE
3000-04 SAINT ARE (FR)  8 David Fox    Tim Vaughan
612-00P SAME DIFFERENCE (IRE) 8 Mrs R Vaughan        Nigel Twiston-Davies
13/230-6 SEABASS (IRE)  11 Gunners Syndicate   Ted Walsh IRE
121300 SERGEANT PINK (IRE) 8 Andrew Sayer    Dianne Sayer
0/11220/- SHAKALAKABOOMBOOM (IRE) 10 Liam Breslin   Nicky Henderson
6-5U024 SIR DU BEARN (FR) 8 Mickey Bowen    Peter Bowen
203-061 SIRE COLLONGES (FR) 8 Angela Tincknell & W Tincknell Paul Nicholls
F-04654 SOLIX (FR)   8 Paul Vogt    Ian Williams
B/0010-5 SOLL    9 Derrick Mossop   Jo Hughes
F11110 STANDING OVATION (IRE) 7 The Bravo Partnership  David Pipe
3313F6 STORM SURVIVOR (IRE) 8 J P McManus    Jonjo O’Neill
2/5PU-01 SUNNYHILLBOY (IRE) 11 J P McManus    Jonjo O’Neill
14406-5 SWING BILL (FR)  13 Halewood International Ltd  David Pipe
0-P000P TARQUINIUS (FR)  11 Richard Gilbert   Gordon Elliott IRE
606F0-1 TATENEN (FR)  10 The Stewart Family   Richard Rowe
06203-0 TEAFORTHREE (IRE) 10 Conyers, O’Reilly, Roddis, Zeffman Rebecca Curtis
5/4/14PP- THE PACKAGE  11 The Johnson Family   David Pipe
4UP-261 THE RAINBOW HUNTER 10 May We Never Be Found Out Partnership Kim Bailey
2B6-P51 THERE’S NO PANIC (IRE) 9 The Stewart Family   Paul Nicholls
121-153 TIDAL BAY (IRE)  13 Andrea & Graham Wylie  Paul Nicholls
111221 TONER D’OUDAIRIES (FR) 7 Gigginstown House Stud  Gordon Elliott IRE
004-26P TOUR DES CHAMPS (FR) 7 Raymond Mould        Nigel Twiston-Davies
62-5023 TRANQUIL SEA (IRE) 12 No Dramas Partnership 1  Warren Greatrex
301-131 TRIOLO D’ALENE (FR) 7 Mr & Mrs Sandy Orr   Nicky Henderson
125010 TWIRLING MAGNET (IRE) 8 Gay Smith    Jonjo O’Neill
1-24003 UNDERTHEBOARDWALK (IRE) 8 Independent Syndicate  Tony Martin IRE
66/3124/- UP THE BEAT  9 Mrs A M Varmen/R J D Varmen Willie Mullins IRE
302-FU0 VESPER BELL (IRE) 8 Susannah Ricci   Willie Mullins IRE
013444 VICTRIX GALE (IRE) 8 Badgers Syndicate   Tony Martin IRE
2P-1262 VINTAGE STAR (IRE) 8 Trevor Hemmings   Sue Smith
22P52-U WALKON (FR)  9 McNeill Family    Alan King
P06-52P WAYWARD PRINCE 10 John & Mrs Hilary Parrott  Hilary Parrott
11P-03P WELL REFRESHED  10 Patrick Wilmott   Gary Moore
3-20116 WHITE STAR LINE (IRE) 10 Exors of the late Patsy Byrne Dessie Hughes IRE
000035 WHODOYOUTHINK (IRE) 9 Redgap Partnership        Oliver McKiernan IRE
6-1FF11 WRONG TURN (IRE) 8 John Breslin    Tony Martin IRE
103-00P WYCK HILL (IRE)  10 J P McManus    David Bridgwater

115 entries
38 Irish-trained

Breakdown of entries by trainer with past successes in the Crabbie’s Grand National

8 entries
Willie Mullins IRE (2005 Hedgehunter)
Away We Go
Boston Bob
On His Own
Prince de Beauchene
Quel Esprit
Up The Beat
Vesper Bell

7 entries
Paul Nicholls (2012 Neptune Collonges)
Hawkes Point
Kauto Stone
Mon Parrain
Rocky Creek
Sire Collonges
There’s No Panic
Tidal Bay

Jonjo O’Neill (2010 Don’t Push It)
Alfie Sherrin
Burton Port
Lost Glory
Merry King
Storm Survivor
Twirling Magnet

6 entries
David Pipe (2008 Comply Or Die)
Our Father
Standing Ovation
Swing Bill
The Package

5 entries
Nicky Henderson
Hunt Ball
Long Run
Triolo d’Alene

Tony Martin IRE
Bog Warrior
Living Next Door
Victrix Gale
Wrong Turn

4 entries
Gordon Elliott IRE (2007 Silver Birch)
Roi du Mee
Toner d’Oudairies

Philip Hobbs
Balthazar King
Chance du Roy
Planet of Sound

3 entries
Alan King
Midnight Appeal

Donald McCain (2011 Ballabriggs)
Across The Bay
Real Milan

Tim Vaughan
Golan Way
Massini’s Maguire
Saint Are

2 entries
Enda Bolger IRE
Mossey Joe
Quiscover Fontaine

Peter Bowen
Gullible Gordon
Sir Du Bearn

David Bridgwater
Ringa Bay
Wyck Hill

Rebecca Curtis
Bob Ford

Tom Gibney IRE
Lion Na Bearnai
Orpheus Valley

Dessie Hughes IRE
Raz de Maree
White Star Line

Martin Keighley
Any Currency
Merlin’s Wish

Emma Lavelle
Court By Surprise
Highland Lodge

Dr Richard Newland
Mart Lane
Pineau de Re

Sue Smith (2013 Auroras Encore)
Mr Moonshine
Vintage Star

Nigel Twiston-Davies (1998 Earth Summit, 2002 Bindaree)
Same Difference
Tour des Champs

Ted Walsh IRE (2000 Papillon)
Colbert Station

Venetia Williams (2009 Mon Mome)

1 entry
Kim Bailey (1990 Mr Frisk)
The Rainbow Hunter

Martin Brassil IRE (2006 Numbersixvalverde)
Double Seven

Henry de Bromhead IRE
Buckers Bridge

John Butler
Minella For Value

Liam Cusack IRE
Last Time d’Albain

Jim Dreaper IRE

Johnny Farrelly
Battle Group

Warren Greatrex
Tranquil Sea

Robbie Hennessy IRE
Rubi Light

Jo Hughes

Malcolm Jefferson
Cape Tribulation

John Kiely IRE
Carlingford Lough

Richard Lee

Charlie Longsdon
Pete The Feat

Dot Love IRE
Liberty Counsel

Peter Maher IRE
Big Shu

Oliver McKiernan
Whodoyou think

Noel Meade IRE

Gary Moore
Well Refreshed

Arthur Moore IRE
Home Farm

Colm Murphy IRE
Quito de La Roque

Fergal O’Brien

Edward O’Grady IRE
Out Now

David O’Meara
Rose of The Moon

Hilary Parrott
Wayward Prince

Keith Reveley
Night In Milan

Richard Rowe

Dianne Sayer
Sergeant Pink

Michael Scudamore
Monbeg Dude

Matt Sheppard
Ikorodu Road

Dan Skelton
Baile Anrai

Paul Webber

Evan Williams
One In A Milan

Ian Williams
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Report PeteTheBloke January 31, 2014 7:44 AM GMT
And most prices on Betfair aren't as good as the bookies' prices. Why? Because of their rule change 2 years ago that prevents layers
from making a book. When will they realise that they have to allow exposure offset in handicaps? It's killing the liquidity in the
big races.
Report Janthefish January 31, 2014 12:50 PM GMT
When you take commission into account, bookies prices a lot better. The greatest 'publicity race' of the year and B/F take a short-sighted approach.
Report shockster January 31, 2014 1:26 PM GMT
I only lay horses to consolidate a profit from time to time and usually am just a backer.  Don't know why Betfair just all in run or not.  If a horse is balloted out it should be factored into the price.  Most people on here would understand the risks and nobody on here is the once a year punter.
Report harry callaghan January 31, 2014 4:34 PM GMT
shockster not sure what you mean by this post can you explain??

i'm taking it that you mean if a horse is balloted out you shouldn't get your money back, am i reading this correctly??

could you clarify sorry don't mean to put you on the spot, just wouldn't be agreeing if that is what you meant
Report PeteTheBloke February 2, 2014 1:45 AM GMT
That's what he's saying Harry. Some days I agree and some days I wouldn't. Provided the rules are clear to everyone
I don't see why it would matter. It's the way the Aussie ante-post markets work on here.

I know I whinge about this regularly, but the fact that BF allows exposure offset when laying on golf markets, but
won't allow it on the National, is ridiculous.
Report metro john February 2, 2014 9:30 AM GMT
Home farm could be interesting if the Handicapper doesn't ruin his mark.?
Report jasey February 2, 2014 4:09 PM GMT
Experience is always an issue with a 7 year old.
No form on good ground
Report Janthefish February 3, 2014 1:34 AM GMT
Pete the bloke is right (for once) you can lay bets on the US Masters(an invitation event) and tough luck on the layers if the person they laid is not invited. Yet the layers aren't allowed that luxury in the National. B/F 'wants' to protect them and themselves so that prices offered are now a joke,
Report shockster February 3, 2014 9:03 AM GMT
Harry, Yes I am saying its hard luck if your horse is balloted out.  We all know only 40 Max will go to post.  I am a backer 99% of the time, so it is not my profit I am looking at.  It would have to be clear and state from day 1 "All in run or not".  Just my point of view.
Report Janthefish February 3, 2014 8:50 PM GMT
Betfair could easily monitor this but run by accountants who haven't a clue about betting. More concerned with mugs playing the slots.
Report harry callaghan February 7, 2014 11:29 AM GMT
shockster and pete sorry for late reply

well i have to disagree on balloting as am a believer in people getting there money back, if your said horse doesn't make the race through not qualifying...

at the end of the day it is up to the punter to decide whether he thinks he will make it or not if the case presents itself, if a horse is injured and is a qualifier that horse is considered a runner and you would lose your money on that non runner, that is after all ante post betting...but on balloting i can't agree after all it isn't the owner trainers fault he hasn't made the race

on the other side of the coin - what i would say in regards non runners, which is what i think you are both annoyed about, is the fact of say at the moment the weights are not out, so in this regard i would tend to agree with you if this is what you meant??

but once the weights are out i do agree on the ballot system, hope this makes sense
Report BJG February 7, 2014 5:46 PM GMT
It has indeed - i usually have 30-40 laid at this stage but with the new rules i cant be bothered tbh and av a grand total of 2 laid! Assume there is plenty of more like me and it shows with the big gaps in prices
Report PeteTheBloke February 7, 2014 6:51 PM GMT
To lay 30-40 you need a big bank BJG. I estimated a figure before and I stick by it: about £30,000 minimum bank
if you want to try and make a book in the AP market. 3 years ago any mug with £200 could throw prices up and
take his chances. That was what Betfair was made for.
Report penzance February 7, 2014 10:55 PM GMT
I can't see why when the weights are published
you can't offset lays who are in the top 40 of
the h'cap.Any other lays should then need more
money as you have to do now.
Makes sense?
Report BJG February 11, 2014 12:01 PM GMT
Form  Horse    Age/Wgt Owner   Trainer

1) 121-1532 TIDAL BAY (IRE)  13-11-10 Andrea & Graham Wylie Paul Nicholls

2) 132-54U LONG RUN (FR)  9-11-09 Robert Waley-Cohen  Nicky Henderson

3) 13-6060 HUNT BALL (IRE)  9-11-07 Atlantic Equine  Nicky Henderson

4) 1-F21P20 ROI DU MEE (FR)  9-11-06 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE

5) 301-131 TRIOLO D’ALENE (FR) 7-11-06 Sandy & Caroline Orr  Nicky Henderson

6) 1113-22 ROCKY CREEK (IRE) 8-11-05 The Johnson & Stewart Families Paul Nicholls

7) 211-F443 KATENKO (FR)  8-11-04 Andrew Brooks  Venetia Williams

8) 11FF-16 BOSTON BOB (IRE) 9-11-03 Andrea & Graham Wylie Willie Mullins IRE

9) 5-10661 ON HIS OWN (IRE)  10-11-03 Andrea & Graham Wylie Willie Mullins IRE

10) 3/F1115- BOG WARRIOR (IRE) 10-11-02 Gigginstown House Stud Tony Martin IRE

11) 13/230-6  SEABASS (IRE)  11-11-02 Gunners Syndicate  Ted Walsh IRE

12) P0P-553 KAUTO STONE (FR) 8-11-01 Robin Geffen   Paul Nicholls

13) 2U11-11 MOSSEY JOE (IRE)  11-11-01 Barry Connell   Enda Bolger IRE

14) 145-F405  QUITO DE LA ROQUE (FR) 10-11-01 Gigginstown House Stud Colm Murphy IRE

15) 110-012 CANTLOW (IRE)  9-11-00 J P McManus   Paul Webber

16) 1U-03U0 COLBERT STATION (IRE) 10-11-00 J P McManus   Ted Walsh IRE

17) 30-3626 RUBI LIGHT (FR)  9-11-00 Bill Hennessy       Robbie Hennessy IRE

18) 1112212 TONER D’OUDAIRIES (FR) 7-11-00 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE

19) 22P52-U4 WALKON (FR)  9-11-00 McNeill Family   Alan King

20) 20P-111 BALTHAZAR KING (IRE) 10-10-13 The Brushmakers  Philip Hobbs

21) P-21221U CARLINGFORD LOUGH (IRE) 8-10-13 J P McManus   John Kiely IRE

22) P06-52P WAYWARD PRINCE 10-10-13 John & Mrs Hilary Parrott Hilary Parrott

23) 155-P03 CAPE TRIBULATION 10-10-12 David Abell   Malcolm Jefferson

24) -450311  MR MOONSHINE (IRE) 10-10-12 Douglas Pryde, Jim Beaumont & David van der Hoeven Sue Smith

25) 06203-0 TEAFORTHREE (IRE) 10-10-12 Conyers, O’Reilly, Roddis, Zeffman Rebecca Curtis

26) 010-501 ACROSS THE BAY (IRE) 10-10-11 Scotch Piper Syndicate Donald McCain

27) F11111 DOUBLE SEVEN (IRE) 8-10-11 J P McManus   Martin Brassil IRE

28) 2131-5P GODSMEJUDGE (IRE) 8-10-11 Favourites Racing  Alan King

29) 0/530P-1 PLANET OF SOUND  12-10-11 Charles Lloyd-Baker  Philip Hobbs

30) 11-1PRP BATTLE GROUP  9-10-10 Jolly Boys Outing  Johnny Farrelly

31) 65-0510 BUCKERS BRIDGE (IRE) 8-10-10 Ann & Alan Potts Partnership Henry de Bromhead IRE

32) 11/PP-501 LION NA BEARNAI (IRE) 12-10-10 The Lock Syndicate  Tom Gibney IRE

33) 12-3004 PRINCE DE BEAUCHENE (FR) 11-10-10 Andrea & Graham Wylie Willie Mullins IRE

34) 5/3/1/P1/MASSINI’S MAGUIRE (IRE) 13-10-09 Alan Peterson   Tim Vaughan

35) 13P-341 MONBEG DUDE (IRE) 9-10-09 Oydunow          Michael Scudamore

36) 00PU-20 QUANTITATIVEEASING (IRE) 9-10-09 J P McManus   Enda Bolger IRE

37) 2/5PU-01  SUNNYHILLBOY (IRE) 11-10-09 J P McManus   Jonjo O’Neill

38) 1/F0211-2 BIG SHU (IRE) 9-10-08 H Duffy/R J Robinson/Miss C M Woods   Peter Maher IRE

39) 42/-500P BURTON PORT (IRE) 10-10-08 Trevor Hemmings  Jonjo O’Neill

40) P-25P434  JUNIOR   11-10-08 Middleham Park Racing LI David Pipe

41) 0P/124-0 OUR FATHER (IRE)  8-10-08 The Ives & Johnson Families David Pipe

42) 203-061 SIRE COLLONGES (FR) 8-10-08 Angela & Bill Tincknell  Paul Nicholls

43) 12/034/-P MON PARRAIN (FR) 8-10-07 John & Barbara Cotton Paul Nicholls

44) 241-3315 MOUNTAINOUS (IRE) 9-10-07 Walters Plant Hire & James & Jean Potter Richard Lee

45) 4UP-261 THE RAINBOW HUNTER 10-10-07 May We Never Be Found Out Partnership Kim Bailey

46) 2P-1262 VINTAGE STAR (IRE) 8-10-07 Trevor Hemmings  Sue Smith

47) 0400-1P CHANCE DU ROY (FR) 10-10-06 Miss I D Du Pre  Philip Hobbs

48) 212P-42 HAWKES POINT  9-10-06 Graham Roach  Paul Nicholls

49) P513-35 HOME FARM (IRE)  7-10-06 Chris Jones   Arthur Moore IRE

50) 2-44110 KRUZHLININ (GER) 7-10-06 Paul & Clare Rooney  Donald McCain

51) 35F201 PINEAU DE RE (FR) 11-10-06 J A Provan          Dr Richard Newland

52) 3-20116 WHITE STAR LINE (IRE) 10-10-06      Exors of the late Patsy Byrne Dessie Hughes IRE

53) 01R03/3-  GOLAN WAY  10-10-05 W R B Racing 58  Tim Vaughan

54) 421-0102 MIDNIGHT APPEAL 9-10-05 David Sewell   Alan King

55) P0-FP13P  PETE THE FEAT (IRE) 10-10-05 G J Larby & P J Smith Charlie Longsdon

56) 125010 TWIRLING MAGNET (IRE) 8-10-05 Gay Smith   Jonjo O’Neill

57) 302-FU0 VESPER BELL (IRE) 8-10-05 Susannah Ricci  Willie Mullins IRE

58) 400123- AWAY WE GO (IRE) 11-10-04 O’Gorman Partnership Willie Mullins IRE

59) 01631P MART LANE (IRE)  9-10-04 Jim Stewart          Dr Richard Newland

60) 001140 RENARD (FR)  9-10-04 ROA Arkle Partnership Venetia Williams

61) 612-00P SAME DIFFERENCE (IRE) 8-10-04 Mrs R Vaughan       Nigel Twiston-Davies

62) 5/4/14PP-0 THE PACKAGE  11-10-04 The Johnson Family  David Pipe

63) 11P-03P WELL REFRESHED  10-10-04 Patrick Wilmott  Gary Moore

64) 15211-P0  RAZ DE MAREE (FR) 9-10-03 Dessie Hughes         Dessie Hughes IRE

65)114P-01 ROSE OF THE MOON (IRE) 9-10-03 Middleham Park Racing XXXIII & Partners David O’Meara

66) 0/11220/- SHAKALAKABOOMBOOM (IRE) 10-10-03 Liam Breslin  Nicky Henderson

67) 606F0-12  TATENEN (FR)  10-10-03 The Stewart Family  Richard Rowe

68) 6R3-51P ALVARADO (IRE)  9-10-02 William & Angela Rucker Fergal O’Brien

69) 356-24P HIGHLAND LODGE (IRE) 8-10-02 The Unusual Suspects Emma Lavelle

70) 51433-0 LAST TIME D’ALBAIN (FR) 10-10-02 Fontstown Syndicate  Liam Cusack IRE

71) 1P-130P LOST GLORY (NZ)  9-10-02 J P McManus   Jonjo O’Neill

72) 20-2553 MERRY KING (IRE)  7-10-02 F Gillespie   Jonjo O’Neill

73) 23-F3P4 ONE IN A MILAN (IRE) 9-10-02 Paul Langford   Evan Williams

74) 1/P10//02-6 PANDORAMA (IRE) 11-10-02 B Mellon/P McBride/Michael D Muldoon Noel Meade IRE

75) 3P1-250 GOONYELLA (IRE)  7-10-01 Ann & Alan Potts Partnership    Jim Dreaper IRE

76) 1162-0P GOULANES (IRE)  8-10-01 Roger Brookhouse  David Pipe

77) 3400-10 IKORODU ROAD  11-10-01 W J Odell   Matt Sheppard

78) 16-060P LIBERTY COUNSEL (IRE) 11-10-01 Neale/Murtagh Partnership Dot Love IRE

79) 14406-5 SWING BILL (FR)  13-10-01 Halewood International Ltd David Pipe

80) 113/04P-0 QUEL ESPRIT (FR) 10-10-00 Jackie Mullins   Willie Mullins IRE

81) B/0010-54 SOLL   9-10-00 Derrick Mossop  Jo Hughes

82) 66/3124/-0 UP THE BEAT  9-10-00       Mrs A M Varmen/R J D Varmen Willie Mullins IRE

83) 121114 MINELLA FOR VALUE (IRE) 8-9-13 Maxilead Limited  John Butler

84) 1-2301P NIGHT IN MILAN (IRE) 8-9-13  Richard Collins  Keith Reveley

85) 3000-04 SAINT ARE (FR)  8-9-13  David Fox   Tim Vaughan

86) 22/0-P50P OUT NOW (IRE)  10-9-12 Dermot Cox/Nelius Hayes  Edward O’Grady IRE

87) 62-5023 TRANQUIL SEA (IRE) 12-9-12 No Dramas Partnership 1 Warren Greatrex

88) 13/304-4 ALFIE SHERRIN  11-9-11 J P McManus   Jonjo O’Neill

89) 1P0-332 COURT BY SURPRISE (IRE) 9-9-11 Nick Mustoe   Emma Lavelle

90) U20441 ROCKYABOYA (IRE) 10-9-11 P W Mullins   Willie Mullins IRE

91) 03F-000 ROMANESCO (FR)  9-9-11  Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE

92) 2B6-P51 THERE’S NO PANIC (IRE) 9-9-11  The Stewart Family  Paul Nicholls

93) 62P-0B20 ORPHEUS VALLEY (IRE) 11-9-10 No Horse Box Syndicate Tom Gibney IRE

94) 6050F-03  QUISCOVER FONTAINE (FR) 10-9-10 J P McManus   Enda Bolger IRE

95) F11110 STANDING OVATION (IRE) 7-9-10 The Bravo Partnership David Pipe

96) 103-00P WYCK HILL (IRE)  10-9-10 J P McManus   David Bridgwater

97) 0-33412 BAILE ANRAI (IRE) 10-9-09 Massive   Dan Skelton

98) 2110F0 GULLIBLE GORDON (IRE) 11-9-09 Karen Bowen   Peter Bowen

99) PP/4-P05 QUINZ (FR)   10-9-09 Andrew Cohen  Philip Hobbs

100) 1-24003 UNDERTHEBOARDWALK (IRE) 8-9-08 Independent Syndicate Tony Martin IRE

101) 6-1FF11  WRONG TURN (IRE) 8-9-08  John Breslin   Tony Martin IRE

102) 0-P5325 ANY CURRENCY (IRE) 11-9-06 Cash Is King   Martin Keighley

103) P023-42 REAL MILAN (IRE) 9-9-06  Diana Whateley  Donald McCain

104) 6-5U024P SIR DU BEARN (FR) 8-9-06  Mickey Bowen   Peter Bowen

105) F-04654 SOLIX (FR)   8-9-06  Paul Vogt   Ian Williams

106) 3313F65 STORM SURVIVOR (IRE) 8-9-06  J P McManus   Jonjo O’Neill

107) 013444 VICTRIX GALE (IRE) 8-9-06  Badgers Syndicate  Tony Martin IRE

108) 000035 WHODOYOUTHINK (IRE) 9-9-06  Redgap Partnership Oliver McKiernan IRE

109) 004-26P TOUR DES CHAMPS (FR) 7-9-04  Raymond Mould Nigel Twiston-Davies

110) 13-2520P BOB FORD (IRE)  7-9-03 The Bob Ford Partnership Rebecca Curtis

111) 104F0U LIVING NEXT DOOR (IRE) 8-9-03 John Breslin   Tony Martin IRE

112) 4-22112 MERLIN’S WISH  9-9-02  Miss R Toppin   Martin Keighley

113) 121300 SERGEANT PINK (IRE) 8-8-11  Andrew Sayer   Dianne Sayer

114) 0-P000P TARQUINIUS (FR)  11-8-11 Richard Gilbert  Gordon Elliott IRE

P-56314P RINGA BAY   9 NQ Malhi & Co..    David Bridgwater

115 entries (one not qualified)

39 Irish-trained
Report Fabulous February 11, 2014 12:10 PM GMT
Good stuff again BJG Happy
Report ashleigh February 11, 2014 12:14 PM GMT
tidal bay looks well in at the weights.
Report marychain1 February 11, 2014 12:55 PM GMT
Some of Jonjo's runners have got a cracking weight
Report BJG February 11, 2014 1:01 PM GMT
Reaction from connections following the unveiling of the weights for the Crabbie's Grand National at Aintree.

Enda Bolger - Mossey Joe (11st 1lb); Quantitativeeasing (10st 9lb); Quiscover Fontaine (9st 10lb)

"I think he (Mossey Joe) looks highly rated for a hunter chaser, but all his best form seems to be in the latter half of the season. We intend to give him a run in a point-to-point on Sunday week. He's settled in fine. I don't think he (Quantitativeeasing) is qualified to run in the race yet, so we are running out of time as the ground has been so heavy. That's a nice weight for Quiscover Fontaine. He'll probably go for the cross-country race at Cheltenham first."

Paul Webber - Cantlow (11st)

"He ran well at Cheltenham last time, but that sounds a bit of a hike. The aim with him, though, is to go to Cheltenham, but if the ground came up heavy we would have to think about our options."

Hilary Parrott - Wayward Prince (10st 13lb)

"It's a nice weight. I certainly won't run him in the mud beforehand because he hates it. If I did run him before Aintree, it would probably be in the Grimthorpe at Doncaster. If the ground isn't right, and I can get him fit enough, he will probably go to Aintree without another run."

Rebecca Curtis - Teaforthree (10st 12lb); Bob Ford (9st 3lb)

"I think that's a lovely weight for Teaforthree. I'm very happy. He's got 5lb less than less year so you'd have to be very hopeful. I do want to get two runs into him before Aintree so he'll probably run at Ascot on Saturday and then in something at Cheltenham. Bob Ford won't be going as we know he wouldn't stay."

Martin Brassil - Double Seven (10st 11lb)

"I was probably expecting something between 10st 10lb and 11st, but that's what I thought he might get off his mark. At least we know we will get a run and it's great to have a horse good enough for the race. He is a spring/summer horse, but he's fit as we can have him in this wet weather. Hopefully we'll try to get a race into him beforehand in mid-March and there's a chance he might come to Cheltenham for the four-miler."

Donald McCain - Across The Bay (10st 11lb); Kruzhlinin (10st 6lb); Real Milan (9st 6lb)

"It's a grand weight for Across The Bay, a good racing weight. He's in three races at the weekend, but I'm not sure where we'll go yet. That's also a decent weight (for Kruzhlinin) but it's going to be a struggle for Real Milan."

Thomas Gibney - Lion Na Bearnai (10st 10lb)

"I can't believe that. It's good in a sense that we'll probably get a run, but that's more than last year (he missed the race due to injury). I don't know where they got that weight from, but there's nothing we can do about that. The plan all along was the Bobbyjo (Fairyhouse) in two weeks and then Liverpool, so that's what we'll probably do."

Richard Rowe - Tatenen (10st 3lb)

"It's a great weight but I'm not sure Andy Thornton (regular jockey) will see it that way. I wouldn't be too pessimistic as a lot of horses will drop out between now and then. He'll probably go Cheltenham first, especially if there's any doubt about him getting in. His record round Aintree has been somewhat unlucky."

Jim Dreaper - Goonyella (10st 1lb)

"The weight doesn't concern me, the problem is how many horses are above him. The plan is the National, but we are well aware we face an anxious wait. He won't be going to Cheltenham, but we are keen to run him agan in mid-March somewhere."

Jo Hughes - Soll (10st)

"He's off the weight same as last year, but it went down to the wire last year so we might be sweating again. It would be nice to know if he gets in earlier this year, so we'll have to keep aiming him at the National. He's due to run at Haydock on Saturday."

Warren Greatrex - Tranquil Sea (9st 12lb)

"It's going to be touch and go. He's still got to qualify for the race by finishing in the first three over three miles before March 17. He will run next Wednesday at Doncaster in a three-mile veterans' chase. If he doesn't get in, the Topham could be an alternative. If he ran well at Doncaster, we'd obviously monitor the National."

Peter Maher - Big Shu (10st 8lb)

"That's a great weight. If he (the handicapper) gave me 11st, I wasn't going to go. It's now tempting to go back to Cheltenham (for the cross-country race). He's definitely a dark horse for the National, there's no question about that. Five National winners were bred on my grandfather's farm so we're no strangers to Liverpool."
Report marychain1 February 11, 2014 2:23 PM GMT
Who are the 5 National winners bred on Peter Maher's grandfather's farm?
Report knot in wood February 11, 2014 3:12 PM GMT
like ms curtis feel teaforthree as been given a competitive weight of 10-12(149),considering the horse ran a cracker to finish 3rd last year.
had a bit on at 25s ew 5 places,horse going to have 2 more runs now the weights are out,so need a bit of luck just to get there in 1 piece.
Report brandyontherocks February 11, 2014 3:14 PM GMT

Tidal Bay dropped 7lb in Grand National weights

By Andrew Dietz 12:00PM 11 FEB 2014

CRABBIE’S Grand National topweight Tidal Bay has been allocated a mark 7lb shy of his official rating as the weights for the £1 million Aintree spectacular on April 5 were revealed in London on Tuesday.

Although heading the list on 11st 10lb, the veteran chaser, who was given the same weight last year before being ruled out by injury, has been issued a mark equating to a rating of 161, which falls short of his 168 official rating.

Reacting to the unveiling of the weights, Tidal Bay's owner Graham Wylie said on At The Races: “We’re very pleased with that. The handicapper has given him a chance and we just hope the horse is fit and well on the day.

“It could be his swansong and we hope he gets luck in running and runs his usual style of running on best late on in the race.”

Next in the weights specifically framed by the BHA’s head of handicapping Phil Smith are the Nicky Henderson-trained duo Long Run (11st 9lb) and Hunt Ball (11st 7lb). With Hennessy Gold Cup hero Triolo D'Alene on 11st 6lb, the champion trainer has three of the top five in the handicap as he seeks a first success in the National.

Last season’s Coral Welsh Grand National winner Monbeg Dude [10st 9lb] joins Tidal Bay, who unseated Brian Hughes in the 2011 National, and Triolo D'Alene as the 20-1 co-favourite with Betfred, while this year's Welsh National second Hawkes Point, one of seven contenders alongside Tidal Bay for Paul Nicholls, is on 10st 6lb.

Not long after the weight were out, Ladbrokes went 25-1 the field for the Grand National.

Teaforthree, third at Aintree last year, has been dropped 5lb from 12 months ago to 10st 12lb, while every horse above Bog Warrior, tenth on 11st 2lb, has had their handicap mark compressed, mostly by small amounts apart from Tidal Bay.

Smith said: “I had three nightmare horses. I freely admit Mossey Joe [11st 1lb] might be 8lb too high or 8lb too low. The others were Pandorama [10st 2lb] and Quel Esprit [10st], who both ran in a hunter chase at the weekend.”

On his other contenders Wylie added: “We put Boston Bob [11st 3lb] in to see what he gets and he’s an interesting runner on better ground.

“On His Own [11st 3lb] needs a bit of luck in running this time as he’s been there twice and fallen twice when going well.

“We’re not sure about Prince De Beauchene [10st 10lb] as he has lost his form of late, but he’s a good age, has a nice weight and may be suited by a stamina test.”
Report Ibrahima Sonko February 11, 2014 3:26 PM GMT
Burton Port looks so well handicapped
Report jasey February 11, 2014 4:16 PM GMT
Hunt Ball... why are they running him 66/1 is a joke..
Report Waiting for Godot February 11, 2014 4:43 PM GMT
I had Burton Port added to the ante-post list on 14th October last and gratefully accepted the three-figure odds offered a week later but these were high-risk investments, it may be that he  will not ever recover his old form. Certainly he  struck me as a potential National type, classy but not quite good enough to win at the highest level while running very well, but with a great attitude and appeared to be staying on doggedly in many of his races. It would certainly be a fine training achievement to bring him back to his best after such a lengthy absence because of injury
Report Millerracing67 February 11, 2014 6:11 PM GMT
Like the ew chances of T FOR 3 again this year, great effort last year & being 5lb lower is a help & would hope for a slightly less aggressive ride this time round on him.
Monbeg Dude would also have sound ew chances imo.
Looking forward to the GREAT RACE as always.
Report Angel Gabrial February 11, 2014 6:17 PM GMT
One horse that stands out at a price to me is Cape Tribulation on 149.
5th in the GC last year

I am sure he ticks most boxes if he runs.
Report deepingfox February 11, 2014 8:09 PM GMT
SUNNYHILLBOY for me, Jonjo's first one in the weights, and a ready staying on winner of hurdle at Cheltenham in December.

Wouldn't surprise me to see him run in the Petertemps Hurdle Final at the Festival, and will run off 146 (4lb higher than when beaten by a whisker in 2012.

Only other positives for me at moment are CAPE TRIBULATION and SIRE COLLONGES.
Report Steamship February 11, 2014 8:18 PM GMT
Good to see that Im not the only one keen on Cape Tribulation. I put up a decent thread on Horse Racing earlier that got over 50 views but not one comment. I was backing him a few weeks ago actually got 160 on here. Really think he has been aimed at this.

Still like Alvarado his owners have gone close before. Monbeg Dude and Away We Go.

Baile Anrai was my other big early fancy but I cannot see him getting a run
Report penzance February 11, 2014 10:48 PM GMT
backed 3 for small stakes,so far.
Chance Du Roy
Sunnyhilly Boy
Report ReaseHeath February 11, 2014 10:55 PM GMT
would love Jefferson to win it after what happened to According To Pete.
Report Steamship February 12, 2014 12:33 AM GMT
I looked at Jeffersons website tonight I did not know that they had lost Schinken Otto on the gallops and that Knockturnals fall was a fatal one the other Saturday.
Report BJG February 12, 2014 10:22 AM GMT
Trainer wants to run Cape Trib - owners do not
Report betilyerded February 12, 2014 7:49 PM GMT
Where does this info come from? Dont understand why a horse would be entered into a race that the owners dont wish to run in. Doesnt make sense.
Report ReaseHeath February 12, 2014 9:16 PM GMT
it's in the Post pull out today, betily...

'I would love to run him but (owner) David Abell has been away. He is a fair horse and on a nice weight but David was n't so keen when I first asked him. He has had a little setback, he was supposed to run on Saturday in the trial but got a bit of a haematoma between his back legs. We will get a raceecourse gallop into him but I would n't be bothered if he went straight to Aintree.'
Report GoldCupWinner February 14, 2014 1:55 PM GMT
Long Run must have a chance, I noticed Henderson said he would skip Cheltenham and this is the target. I wonder if that has been the case even before his not so good runs this year. Jumping much less of an issue with the new fences.
Report jasey February 14, 2014 2:14 PM GMT
Long Run is a poor jumper regardless of how easy the new fences are.
Report BJG February 14, 2014 3:02 PM GMT
betilyerded     12 Feb 14 19:49 
Where does this info come from? Dont understand why a horse would be entered into a race that the owners dont wish to run in. Doesnt make sense.

Sorry, been without power, phone etc d last few days - was in RP

MJ "I would love to run Cape tribulation but the owner wasn't so keen when I first asked him"
Report bazzar February 14, 2014 6:26 PM GMT
A highly paid journalist has never read the conditions for the GRAND NATIONAL
and unless they have changed recently, any horse shall run to its handicap unless
higher weighted horses are withdrawn, this journo nominates STANDING ORDERS to pick up a penalty
so that it will get a run in the race, this is not sound judgement from a highly paid journo!!!!
A horse can win EVERY DAY from publication of the weights, to the day of the race and will NOT get a penalty.
Report Waiting for Godot February 15, 2014 9:41 AM GMT
Agreed- remarkable example of human error
Conditions of race stated at start of this thread -"No penalties after publication of the weights"
Report bazzar February 15, 2014 1:07 PM GMT
Those conditions were unique in handicap racing, for Many years until
Whitbread stopped supporting the Gold Cup at Sandown, now their big race has similar conditions as regards the handicap.
Report GI MAC February 15, 2014 2:47 PM GMT
who was the Journo?
Report Millerracing67 February 15, 2014 3:05 PM GMT
Great prep run by Tfor3 2day at Ascot.
Report Angel Gabrial February 15, 2014 3:14 PM GMT
A perfect Nationaltype but he needs it soft to have a chance
Report Angel Gabrial February 15, 2014 3:14 PM GMT
A perfect Nationaltype but he needs it soft to have a chance
Report Angel Gabrial February 15, 2014 3:14 PM GMT
A perfect Nationaltype but he needs it soft to have a chance
Report jasey February 15, 2014 4:09 PM GMT
Who needs soft?
Report knot in wood February 15, 2014 4:20 PM GMT
national was run on good ground last year,tfor3 seemed to handle that.
also won the 4m at cheltenham on official good ground.
Report Angel Gabrial February 15, 2014 4:59 PM GMT
G/S( goodish) last year and i backed it, ran a great race but likely just to have a few running past him again unless it`s soft. Only my opinion, i just don`t see why he couldn`t find more in last years race on goodish ground.
Report jasey February 15, 2014 6:28 PM GMT
I agree with that,i think T43 is a big place bet and small win bet,i think he will find 1 or 2 better than him on the day.
Report bazzar February 15, 2014 8:48 PM GMT
GI MAC, the journo was PYMAN in Racing Post.
Report Steamship February 15, 2014 10:03 PM GMT
I saw that piece from Pyman yesterday and thought I had missed achange in the rules
Report fact find February 16, 2014 6:34 AM GMT
Pete, with regard to your very first post on exposure offset, why not use Bet..q, the DO allow it
Report jasey February 16, 2014 9:08 AM GMT
Prices are worse than on here aint they?
Report Angel Gabrial February 16, 2014 10:05 AM GMT
Or perhaps 1 or 2 just better handicapped and likely to improve on better ground at the distance if it does come up good. T43 would easily be my main bet if it comes up soft.
Report Angel Gabrial February 16, 2014 10:06 AM GMT
To Jasey^
Report PeteTheBloke February 16, 2014 10:44 AM GMT
Thanks Fact Find. I have a look at the purple place now and again but the liquidity still appears to be
awful in AP races. Do you know any different?
Report PeteTheBloke February 16, 2014 10:54 AM GMT
Looking at the GN on purple. Matched so far £81,000 which is about £2000-4000 of actual bets with the way they calculate it.
BF matched is £306,000 which is £153,000 of actual bets. It's a big difference. BF's would have been a lot more in years gone

I suppose the turnover will improve at BD but people get used to not even looking.
Report bazzar February 16, 2014 4:00 PM GMT
I am aware that some would claim "aftertiming", but this ACTUALLY happened.
On my way to pick up my newspapers about 7.55, i spotted a folded £20 note
on a manhole cover about 7 or 8 feet from my front door, picked it up and went
back into my flat and placed it on my radiator to dry out, carried on to pick
up my papers, on returning home I spotted a £5 note against a wall which I had
passed earlier, nearer to my door I found another £5 note with a £10 close to it,
I have no idea how I missed them earlier, decided to put the money on a horse and
checked the prices, went to LADs as there prices were better, put £20 EW on
Since a youngster had never believed in luck, but what was that if not luck?
I run a small syndicate and had intended naming the horse but had not noticed
it last ran 301 days before, so I nominated CAPTAIN CHRIS.
Really strange set of circumstances!!!!!!!
Report PeteTheBloke February 16, 2014 9:08 PM GMT
Crikey Bazz. I wish you were a regular at my local. How the winter evenings must fly by.
Report bazzar February 16, 2014 10:47 PM GMT
I think that an evening at the local lead to the person losing his money,
got to be drunk to be so careless!!!!!!
Report BJG February 26, 2014 1:46 PM GMT
The following 15 horses were scratched: Rubi Light, Planet Of Sound, White Star Line, Midnight Appeal, Away We Go, Renard, Highland Lodge, Merry King, Ikorodu Road, Liberty Counsel, Quel Esprit, Up The Beat, Rockyaboya, Orpheus Valley, Ringa Bay.
Report bazzar February 26, 2014 3:48 PM GMT
Thanks for the update BJG, gets my horse nearer but still VERY doubtful.
Report GoldCupWinner February 28, 2014 4:15 PM GMT
I've backed Burton Port. The cynic in me thinks he was sent to Jonjo to help get his handicap mark down specifically for this race. Wouldn't surprise me to see a sunnyhillboy type cheltenham/Aintree double plot.
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