Dance and Dance in the Hunt Cup

yes mate 96 will get him in,imo. I was at york last week and it look to be he was just coming to the boil and back on a 'workable' mark

Good Luck

Will run at Epsom imo................but the cat is out of the bag now and won't be any price

Epsom makes more sense than Ascot but he has never won above class 3 and at seven years old, is he really improving? Really? Or is he one of those runners who always looks a bit unlucky?

Thank - you boys.

He's so well handicapped now he's hard to resist Ramruma,but i do understand where you're coming from,have backed him the last couple of times at decent odds on here so lto was particularly frustrating he does run well at Epsom and i will be amazed if he doesn't turn up there.GL

Keen on Loving Spirit (50/1+ on here) for this - off 94 so might be touch and go if he gets in.

TBF he's been a cliff horse for me since I backed him on his 2.y.o. debut at huge prices (hasn't won since) so I'm definitely biased towards him but he was rather unlucky in running, to my eyes, in the big 7f Ascot H'Cap a few weeks back and should be ideally suited to a big field and a straight 1m.

Dance and Dance not entered up at Epsom looks like this might be the plan

Anybody still interested in this one. Looks a plot jobbie.

One of those eye catching horses.Its only 6lb lower than when it was 2nd 2 years ago....most of the other form isnt fantastic.
Will need luck with its customary slow start and coming through horses

did notice this, but if it comes up on the fast side of good, then last year's winner PRINCE OF JOHANNE all day for me. won well last year, same mark as last year to, good run last time out and at 25's will be much shorter on the day.

since the middle of the eighties if memory serves,only one Hunt Cup winner ran at the Epsom Meeting,Mr Aviator.So just as well.

fancied runners Tamarkuz,Gifted Girl andLline Drummer not declared(along with others) for the race today

Fast Or Free @16/1 will do for me

been making my short list for this race and my top 3 are:

Fury
Dance and Dance
Redact

Dont think that runs facts

Has it been confirmed a NR ?

Nt yet but was unlikely 2 odd weeks back - was just back in trainin and they thought he would run out of time!

May make it yet tho cuz av heard nothin since that

Thanks for this BJG. Hope he does run - major chance if he does imo

Fury is the one for me off 100, won off 104 in the past and this race looks perfect for him

^ same trainer as FOF !

Strongly agree about  Fury  being on a good mark , his win of 104  at york  last  year  was  well worth  a few pounds extra  , how he has got  in  off 100   is a  real  puzzle

that's what I thought

Would firm ground be a problem for Fury? Is he a definite runner, any chance he'll go for that Group 3 at Chantilly again?

yes he will need decent ground, will be waiting for declarations and going description before betting, prob the draw too

Having just watched  Dance and  Dance run in the Hambleton   it would be  plain stupid to ignore his chance  off his greatly  revised mark .The Handicapper  is at last giving some of the old stagers a chance  to compete  against the  less exposed types,  which can only be good news  ...Trade commission who created such  a strong impression  when winning on good ground at Salisbury last year  is another with a big chance , the key to this Animal  could well be the  state of the going  , he managed a good win on GS  at Sandown  last summer  but  could not show his speed  quite so well  on that  slower surface  .He is at his most effective over a mile  , pity he has had no pipe opener but  should
in no way be underestimated , Shamal Nibrass on a line through  Trade  Commission   is also  a contender  ...tough race gl

Sweet Lightning (GB)    8       9 10
Premio Loco (USA)    9       9 9
Elusive Time (IRE)    5       9 6
Fort Bastion (IRE)    4       9 5
Don't Call Me (IRE)    6       9 5
Navajo Chief (GB)    6       9 4
Trade Commissioner (IRE)    5       9 4
Sandagiyr (FR)    5       9 3
David Livingston (IRE)    4       9 2
Two For Two (IRE)    5       9 0
Fury (GB)    5       9 0
Santefisio (GB)    7       9 0
Burwaaz (GB)    4       9 0
Prince of Johanne (IRE)    7       9 0
Fire Ship (GB)    4       8 13
Directorship (GB)    7       8 13
Educate (GB)    4       8 12
Field of Dream (GB)    6       8 12
Es Que Love (IRE)    4       8 12
Arsaadi (IRE)    4       8 12
Excellent Guest (GB)    6       8 12
Stirring Ballad (GB)    4       8 11
Belgian Bill (GB)    5       8 11
Global Village (IRE)    8       8 11
Toto Skyllachy (GB)    8       8 11
Burke's Rock (GB)    4       8 11
Winter's Night (IRE)    5       8 11
Redact (IRE)    4       8 11
Moran Gra (USA)    6       8 10
Captain Bertie (IRE)    5       8 10
Circumvent (GB)    6       8 10
Dance And Dance (IRE)    7       8 10
Mister Music (GB)    4       8 10
Rebellious Guest (GB)    4       8 9
Chosen Character (IRE)    5       8 9
Balducci (GB)    6       8 9
Anderiego (IRE)    5       8 9
Shamaal Nibras (USA)    4       8 9
Rodrigo de Torres (GB)    6       8 8
Justonefortheroad (GB)    7       8 8
Loving Spirit (GB)    5       8 8
Tandem (GB)    4       8 8
Norse Blues (GB)    5       8 7
Asatir (USA)    4       8 7
Jake's Destiny (IRE)    4       8 7
Spa's Dancer (IRE)    6       8 6
Maverik (GB)    5       8 6
Jack's Revenge (IRE)    5       8 5
Bancnuanaheireann (IRE)    6       8 5
Trail Blaze (IRE)    4       8 5
Frontier Fighter (GB)    5       8 5
Anton Chigurh (GB)    4       8 5
Karam Albaari (IRE)    5       8 4
Galician (GB)    4       8 4
Ardmay (IRE)    4       8 4
Hi There (IRE)    4       8 3
Mabait (GB)    7       8 3
Trader Jack (GB)    4       8 3
Danchai (GB)    4       8 3
Hefner (IRE)    4       8 3
Capaill Liath (IRE)    5       8 2
Swing Alone (IRE)    4       8 2
Rockalong (IRE)    4       8 2
Gaul Wood (IRE)    4       8 1
Burn The Boats (IRE)    4       8 1
Myboyalfie (USA)    6       8 1
Basseterre (IRE)    4       8 0
Noble Citizen (USA)    8       8 0
Sam Sharp (USA)    7       8 0
Garde Cotiere (USA)    5       7 13
Roserrow (GB)    4       7 13
Border Legend (GB)    4       7 12
Discression (GB)    4       7 12
Kingscroft (IRE)    5       7 12
Net Whizz (USA)    4       7 12
Commissar (GB)    4       7 11
Ocean Tempest (GB)    4       7 11
Johnno (GB)    4       7 10
Al Muheer (IRE)    8       7 10
Albaqaa (GB)    8       7 8
An Cat Dubh (IRE)    4       7 7

Fast Or Free not declared

Fury for me

stirring ballad for me

Ian Balding  has a great record of bringing milers  up through the ranks  so can not just  write off  the chance of Stirring Ballad , however when  this Horse met  Shamaal nibrass  last year  at Salisbury  and beat him  three lengths  shimaal Nibrss was undoubtedly hampered in his run  and would have  got  much closer  with a clear passage ...Shaamal Nibrass may well be ridden by  Thomas Brown  on wednesday  with Jamie Spenser  on Educate , if that is the case he will probably  meet   Stirring ballad  on no less  than twenty pounds better terms than at Salisbury  , This is one heck of a turnaround in the weights with Iain  Baldings progressive  contender

The race was at  * Goodwood not Salisbury

judorick     14 Jun 13 03:07 
Fast Or Free not declared


Fury for me



Good luck judorick.

DANCE AND DANCE Ryan Moore booked to ride him.
Vaughan " he's in cracking form. Ryan rode him in a bit of work yesterday
on the watered gallop and was absolutely delighted with him. I'm confident
we've got him in great order and I'm looking forward to running him"
full article in today's RP.

Some gamble on Stirring Ballard, 10s now, on at 20s, really fancy this

good luck with that but Isee nothing that says the horse is anywhere near well enough handicapped, started off in hcps on 76, needs to be a group horse, don't see it myself

Stirring Ballad - Hughes on a hold up horse in a 30 runner handicap - I can almost read the thread(s) on the main forum after the race now!

I see that as a negative to be honest, going to punt Livingstone as well

Dance and Dance has nt got in! They got the mark down too much

BJG, number 32 of 33. Drawn in 31. 8 stone 10 lbs. Ryan Moore rides. I think!

Ok, I understand. It's a reserve. Sorry.

Is 30 the maximum ?

Yes, and it is second reserve.

JOB booked for Fury

hooded and blinkers first time though... wonder if that will help

Interesting jockey booking for Spa's Dancer given he has rode quite a few of these before.

Ignore that, didn't see he was booked twice!

Dance is fecked.Money lost on here antepost?

should get it back as balloted out, would have thought lob

Anyone know if Loving Spirit was declared and balloted out?

Looks from Tuesdays racing that there is a big draw bias on the straight track - all the winners coming up the stands side of the main group (high numbers).

Directorship is my main bet now.

Not got me BF dosh back. Down the drain.

liberator of the oppressed,you defo will get it back,but it might be after the race,your horse was balloted out,so its money back on here or at the books

A low draw did for Chai Chen last year  ,it may do for  Stirring Ballad and Trade commissioner  this time round ,unless they reveal  a measure
of ability not yet seen on a racecourse  ....Don't rule out anything   drawn high

Spa's dancer has the plum draw, Moore booked and I have well ahead of Stirring ballad through shamaal nibras. I have no idea why Stirring Ballad is as short as he is.

I feel pace is stands side and I'm on Two for Two, Moran Gra and Fury. I can't understand why nobody's mentioned O'Meara's horse. Progressed with every run on my figures and not necessarily exposed.

I think it is because  Andrew Balding  like James Fanshaw  is skilled at   guiding his  Horses  from  seemingly ordinary handicaps up to listed and  group level

agree about the Two for Two

Thank - you Turnip. Had a good day yesterday. On Stirring B in the Hunt Cup so might back something else.

no problem liberator,good luck

done something that will like the ground and is drawn well .. Moran Gra. Is thoroughly exposed and doesn't win often but 25/1

Howellsy 18 Jun 13 22:11 
I feel pace is stands side and I'm on Two for Two, Moran Gra and Fury. I can't understand why nobody's mentioned O'Meara's horse. Progressed with every run on my figures and not necessarily exposed.

Royal Hunt Cup

Two For Two34     97%
Spa´s Dancer20 5x     94%
51 Captain Bertie40     94%
Burke´s Rock46     92%
Educate39     85%
Fury37     82%
Excellent Guest39     77%
Directorship33     77%
Stirring Ballad46     73%
Sandagiyr111     71%
Navajo Chief34     68%
Don´t Call Me21     67%
Moran Gra25     67%
45 Balducci270     67%
Arsaadi39     66%
Winter´s Night389     66%
Es Que Love18     66%
Belgian Bill60     66%
Redact25     65%
Fire Ship53     62%
Elusive Time283     60%
David Livingston111     60%
50 Circumvent19     60%
Santefisio46     60%
Toto Skyllachy11     59%
Burwaaz39     58%
Prince Of Johanne34     58%
Trade Commissioner228     57%
Field Of Dream27     51%
49 Dance And Dance34     50%
Global Village60     50%
Sweet Lightning38     47%
Premio Loco11     39%

Need to have a few on your side in this cavalry charge so going for the top four highest rated.

Selections: Two For Two (23), Spa's Dancer (27), Captain Bertie (24), Burke's Rock (16.5)

Small bit of ew interest in the race for me, Stirring Ballad.
Gd luck punters, we are going to need plenty of it in this 1.

Fury 12.5 now, 27 looking massive value

Richard Hughes.

Feckin muppett.

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Stirring Ballad - Hughes on a hold up horse in a 30 runner handicap - I can almost read the thread(s) on the main forum after the race now! Happy

Still not got my dosh back.

you will