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28 Jun 12
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22nd August. Yet another ante-post market with Frankel at short odds.
THE JUDDMONTE INTERNATIONAL STAKES (GROUP 1) (CLASS 1)
31st July - Forfeit Stage
16th August - Confirmation Of Entry Stage
There is a Supplementary Stage on the 16th August.
THE JUDDMONTE INTERNATIONAL STAKES (GROUP 1) (CLASS 1)
31st July - Forfeit Stage
16th August - Confirmation Of Entry Stage
There is a Supplementary Stage on the 16th August.
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Incidentally, I think this was actually mentioned as a target for Frankel - which makes me wonder if
his price for the Sussex Stakes is a trifle skinny (although he'd lag in if he ran, I'm sure). |
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The plan is to run in both
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Thanks Roo.
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I think this was always going to be Frankels first stepp up to 10f+, and may well be his only one, it will depend on the ground at Ascot in Oct (Champions Day) if he stays at 10f & if he wins well at York. If it came up very soft at Ascot, he would prob go back to 1mile (QE11)
Looking forward to seeing Frankel for the 1st time in the flesh at York in Aug, one of my fav meetings of the flat season (Ebor festival) missed it last year  Booked in for the 4days this year  all being well. |
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miller, loved the ebormeeting myself as it used to be 7 top class races over 3 days, spoilt this meeting as it is now imo
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Some idiots were still backing Frankel for the Eclipse yesterday at odds as low as 10/1.
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Haven't we had two trainers saying that their horses
would NOT run in certain races, only to run and WIN, so some would consider a throw away small stake just in case. I started backing a horse for ARC last year and she was not supplemented until 26 days later, never had more than £12 on at various stages but the odds were excellent. |
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I understand that Bazz but we're talking small odds. If, like you did, someone takes a chance a massive prices then fair enough.
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We also live in an age where ALL the accepted establishment people were,
in the main, to be trusted with only the odd rogue, but now EVERY damned person is a liar and a thief, no wonder people are confused!!!!! I pinpoint on the era of COMMERCIAL TELEVISION and constant bombardment of lies known as advertisements!!!!!!! Round about the late 1950s when we followed the yanks and have done ever since. |
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Does anyone think St nicholas abbey might run here?Can't see camelot or So you Think showing up so if O Brien is to run anything it might be this one?
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Agree Bazz.
Quite possible Zagreb. I think they will defo try SNA in a 10f G1 this season, though it might be the Irish Champion. |
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No cannot agree with that I'm afraid. That point was raised about Frankel's odds for the Eclipse and post race this was mentioned as a possibilty by Cecil. Since then he made it quite clear that the Sussex would be the next race.
There has been an increasing lack of information about horses that are prominent in AP lists from trainers and I have taken this now to mean that there is a problem or unlikely to run. However HRAC imo has been nothing other than straightforward and so to be classed as a liar and a thief is utterly wrong |
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I was agreeing about the part re advertising and commercial television.
I believed HRAC from the word go re Frankel, and thats why the backers of Frankel 24hrs the day before 5-day decs, are Stupid. |
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Had no doubt about that sint, I was picking up on bazzar's comments. I know they were made as a generalisation but I still felt needed to be challenged
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I have no need to defend myself, except to say that HENRY is one of a very few exceptions, otherwise I stand by what I said about confusion in MOST cases.
We have a doctor proved to have murdered 200 or more people, paedophiles in the church, criminals in parliament and Lords and bankers ripping us all off even AFTER the taxpayer bailed them out, DIAMOND delayed his resignation only until he knew HIS payment package was safely ensconced where he wanted it, he will get away with it as is usual, in most cases, especially when aided by corrupt politicians!!!!!! |
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Quite how you got to that from someone backing Frankel for the Eclipse, in case he did in fact run, is quite beyond me. Didn't realise your post was a complete social commentary, thought this was a thread about horse racing. Hope you can work through your anger soon
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I have been writing to newspaper editors complaining of the decline in honesty in OUR country for about 20 years, just wasting my time and energy, most of them GAIN extra money from the self same advertising of which I complain, ask yourself why some of us react by committing criminal acts when we are bombarded EVERY day and GREED is lauded to the skies.
Sorry for my rant ROOBUCK but as you will realise I don't like the way things are going, I get lots of pleasure from my betting, it's me trying to outguess the connections of horses. |
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Kind of agree with you there Baz. Last summers riots has a lot to do with promotion of greed,celebrity and mediocrity. Media are as bad as the banks.
Anyway ...! |
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Welcome to Planet Bizarre, Roo.
Normal service will be resumed shortly.....  |
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The headbanger spouts, in the hope that his nom de plume will impress.
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Just to say, bizz, that I do really enjoy your posts.  I just wish I understood them a bit more.... |
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Obviously you are not as intelligent as you wish to portray yourself, oh supporter of the criminal rules!!!!!!
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Astrology (IRE) 53
Born To Sea (IRE) 53 Bullet Train 64 Camelot 53 Carlton House (USA) 63 Cirrus Des Aigles (FR) 87 City Style (USA) 63 Cityscape 108 Crackerjack King (IRE) 101 Daddy Long Legs (USA) 88 Dancing Rain 283 Declaration Of War (USA) 250 Ektihaam (IRE) 80 Farhh 63 Frankel 64 Hunter's Light (IRE) 60 Imperial Monarch (IRE) 80 Jet Away 59 Light Heavy (IRE) 53 Main Sequence (USA) 81 Marcret (ITY) 82 Maybe (IRE) 82 Miblish 53 Monterosso 144 Nathaniel (IRE) 312 Parish Hall (IRE) 319 Planteur (IRE) 63 Power 64 Reliable Man 63 Robin Hood (IRE) 63 Saamidd 88 So You Think (NZ) 63 Sri Putra 63 St Nicholas Abbey (IRE) 81 Treasure Beach 115 Twice Over 116 Up (IRE) 52 Was (IRE) 82 Windsor Palace (IRE) 52 Wrote (IRE) 64 |
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Just hope Coolmore really go for it and run 3 or 4 including SNA and make it a real test - though as Frankel is by Galileo they may decide it's better for business if he remains unbeaten.
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depending on the line up I'll take a day off work to go to this.
Which seems unlikely as I'd want to see a star studded line up vs Frankel :( The supplemented horsies (if any) would be interesting...dare I say it the likes of Meandre, No Risk At All or Pastorious would be mightly interesting? Maybe even an American raider like Acclamation.....I'll just give up dreaming on that. ..... as a side note...wouldnt you lot like to go back in time and back one of the International / B&H winners from yesteryear vs Frankel ie Falbrav, Giants Causeway....I'd even put a bit on Roberto or Electrocutionist here. Falbrav would be a max bet job for me. |
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Certainly not Falbrav. Sea the Stars (obviously) - maybe Singspiel and Sahkee.
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Falbrav was a hugely imposing beast. I still managed not to back him after seeing him in the paddock at York, too.
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That last list obviously included the latest scratchings. Here's the up-to-date version...
Bullet Train Cirrus Des Aigles Daddy Long Legs Dancing Rain Farhh Frankel Imperial Monarch Jet Away Miblish Monterosso Nathaniel Planteur Robin Hood Sri Putra St Nicholas Abbey Treasure Beach Twice Over Was Windsor Palace |
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That's actually a pretty decent line up for Frankel if they all lined up. If they smashed that by 4 or 5 like he does at a mile they'll surely have to seriously consider an Arc tilt.
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That's what I was thinking ELG. It would be bloody great, wouldn't it, to see Frankel in the Arc?
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Scratch Cirrus des Aigles. It's looking less of a race now. What a pity.
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Nathaniel wont be running either.. Going to be a hopeless turn out.
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Once they supplemented him for the Irish Champion that was always going to be his likely target
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trouble with this race is that it is only ever a target for 10f horses - Nathaniel and Camelot got their eyes on other races - and with Cirrus out the only real opposition to Frankel is his own stamina limitations
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the only real opposition to Frankel is his own stamina limitations
If he has any. I can't see 10f being a problem. Especially if the opposition is less than brilliant. |
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AOB unusually bullish about SNA. Flat,left-handed track over an extended 10f on quickish ground SNA should at least provide somekind of test for Frankel imo. The Sussex Stakes lto was a shocking race for the grade.
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On his best form, SNA will be the bet "without" the fav.
Frankel will be way 2 gd for him & the rest, next wk. Hope the rain stays away from York, what is the weather forcast for York next wk? |
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Going Report
Last Updated: Thursday, 16th August 2012 7:31am Going Good,Good to Firm in places. Going stick tba 8.30am Clerk's Comments Stalls positions - 5f, 5f 89yds, 6f and 1m4f - Centre. Remainder - Inside Rail Weather Forecast Met office forecast: largely dry Thursday; Friday - showery. Outlook for weekend - largely warm and humid with thundery showers possible. |