I wouldn't say he is certain to be in the 3 at all.
He wont beat SYT. I'd fancy Farhh to beat him, if supplemented, given a clear passage. Then you have others horses like Bonfire, Nathaniel etc.
He is actually 18/1 on here for small money.
I wouldn't say he is certain to be in the 3 at all.He wont beat SYT. I'd fancy Farhh to beat him, if supplemented, given a clear passage. Then you have others horses like Bonfire, Nathaniel etc.He is actually 18/1 on here for small money.
He was treading water at the end of the POW.... Either he is still not 100% (a plausible explanation after the long layoff) or he is a query at the trip.
If I had him he would be off to a G2 mile somewhere.
He was treading water at the end of the POW.... Either he is still not 100% (a plausible explanation after the long layoff) or he is a query at the trip. If I had him he would be off to a G2 mile somewhere.
thought syt not a deffo runner,also fahr ...beware of UNLUCKY LOSERS....so thats what made me think he would be in frame....tanx for the replies anyhow lads
thought syt not a deffo runner,also fahr ...beware of UNLUCKY LOSERS....so thats what made me think he would be in frame....tanx for the replies anyhow lads
Carlton House is a smart horse & prob still improving at 4, not had much racing. So far, he is not quite up to winning a top G1. With Frankel & Camelot not turning up, it looks to be SYT again.
Carlton House is a smart horse & prob still improving at 4, not had much racing.So far, he is not quite up to winning a top G1.With Frankel & Camelot not turning up, it looks to be SYT again.
Ryan Moore was pretty easy on Carlton House once the race was lost , difficult to believe he'll turn the tables if they both line up in the Eclipse but you never know.
Ryan Moore was pretty easy on Carlton House once the race was lost , difficult to believe he'll turn the tables if they both lineup in the Eclipse but you never know.
Farrh is a lovely horse but deary me their is some hype around him. I thought he was picking up the pieces after SYT & CH had run their races personally.
Farrh is a lovely horse but deary me their is some hype around him. I thought he was picking up the pieces after SYT & CH had run their races personally.
Possibly MM. I've backed him. He reared in the gates as they broke and was stuck on the rail when the other two were quickening. He ended up being beat 3 lengths so it wouldn't be the biggest shock to see the form turned around. He's only had 4 runs and was backed from 10/1 into 6/1 on the day.
Possibly MM. I've backed him. He reared in the gates as they broke and was stuck on the rail when the other two were quickening. He ended up being beat 3 lengths so it wouldn't be the biggest shock to see the form turned around. He's only had 4 runs
TIf I'm honest I think SYT is a near good thing, but at the prices I'm happy to give Bonfire another chance @14/1. Have made plenty backing beaten Derby runners in this down the years and for me he patently hated the track / atmosphere.
TIf I'm honest I think SYT is a near good thing, but at the prices I'm happy to give Bonfire another chance @14/1. Have made plenty backing beaten Derby runners in this down the years and for me he patently hated the track / atmosphere.