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02 Jun 12 23:41
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My guess is his next run will be in the Irish Derby and when you win like today the trend has been to win even easier in that race. Aidan mentioned the possibility of a summer break and that makes sense as the Arc is an obvious target.

The prep for that looks like being an attempt on the Triple Crown in the Leger which I thought unlikely before today. Magnier and Smith seemed like they were going for the historic achievement post race. I was thinking they'd rather go Irish Champion as So You Think will be retired by then but I can see them chancing St Nicholas Abbey in that now.

If he pulls off the Triple Crown and follows up in the Arc there will be a temptation to retire him then with his stud value but one thing could stop that from happening. I know it's all hypothetical right now but imagine the clamour for a Camelot-Frankel showdown in the Champion Stakes two weeks later. Will Coolmore be able to resist that?
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Report Andrew in Sweden June 3, 2012 7:57 AM BST
The Leger appears to ge a 'given' and if he won the Arc (and presumably at that stage was still undefeated) I think he'll be whisked off to stud. Personally I think it's very unlikely Camelot will ever meet Frankel, neither of the connections would be willing to risk the 'unbeaten / greatness' status.
Report sintonian June 3, 2012 10:55 AM BST
Frankel would murder him anyway.

And yes I agree re St Nick, they will want a crack at a Group 1 with him over 10f for sure. Irish Champion followed by the Arc.
Report Masterminded June 3, 2012 12:11 PM BST
Frankel would beat him over a mile but I question if he would over 12f giving weight. 10f would be a great race and I'd have Frankel favourite but not by much. WFA is a great leveler later in the season. It looks as though Camelot will probably go for the Triple Crown which could potentially be an even smaller field than the Derby. For me personally I'm looking forward to what he does beforehand and afterwards. Would love to see him in the Arc and the Eclipse.
Report tinkler June 3, 2012 12:46 PM BST
It used to be pretty much automatic that a Derby winner like this would be aimed at the KG then the Arc.
If connections didn't have SNA they probably would go that route . He's a relatively lighly framed
horse who is unlikey to be able to cope with more than 2-3 more  top class races . AOB has already hinted in
the past that he's not a horse who could take too many races ,unlike Frankel who could probably take in 10
group 1 races in a year such is his constitution.
For me it would be disappointing if he ended up just running in the Irish Derby and St leger as their
unlikely to offer much of a test.
If Camelot and SNA had been in different ownership a confrontation in the KG would be a real treat.
Personally i'd favour Camelot esp with the weight allowances.
Coolmore have in the past had no problem challenging other stables stars but with Cecil appearing to
constantly look for the soft option (queen anne ,sussex against the usual suspects) horse racing fans
looking for great races could be in for a frustrating time.
Report Platini June 3, 2012 3:44 PM BST
Too early to say how good Camelot is or isn't.
I'll be impressed if he can beat Nathaniel even with WFA.
Report Authorized June 30, 2012 10:41 PM BST
I have to say I was a little underwhelmed with the performance tonight. Despite the heavy going I was expecting an easier win as a number of Montjeu's offspring have thrived in those conditions in big races. Aidan did have concerns with the ground and the decision to withdraw Imperial Monarch looked suspiciously like a move to make the race an easier task for Camelot.

One thing that makes no sense to me though is what Coolmore have done with Astrology post-Derby which has rendered the Epsom form useless and looks to have ruined a solid middle distance colt. The Derby run looked to have left it's mark at Ascot so why not give him a long rest rather than have him do the Red Rock Canyon/Windsor Palace job just 8 days later. He trailed in over 50l behind in last tonight less than a month after giving Camelot most to think about.
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