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Tough race to sort and one i'll just be watching personally.
French Fifteens form has just been franked by Camelot and so he deserves to be 5/1 Fav.
Lots of talk for Kesampour who is unbeaten but wasn't all that impressive last time in winning the Grueffel G2.
Imperial Monarch looked a serious tool at Sandown and could still be anything, though 13/2 doesn't seem quite right to me on foreign soil.
Most Improved is bred for the job being by Lawman but has missed his first intended target of the season which was the Craven & Guineas, so it is hard to back him in a race such as this first time out.
All in all a very competitve race but forced to choose i'd for the the Favourite French Fifteen, unoriginally.
20 runners, carnage, draw, french stewards, blah,blah,blah.
French Fifteens form has just been franked by Camelot and so he deserves to be 5/1 Fav.
Lots of talk for Kesampour who is unbeaten but wasn't all that impressive last time in winning the Grueffel G2.
Imperial Monarch looked a serious tool at Sandown and could still be anything, though 13/2 doesn't seem quite right to me on foreign soil.
Most Improved is bred for the job being by Lawman but has missed his first intended target of the season which was the Craven & Guineas, so it is hard to back him in a race such as this first time out.
All in all a very competitve race but forced to choose i'd for the the Favourite French Fifteen, unoriginally.
20 runners, carnage, draw, french stewards, blah,blah,blah.
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not been able to see all the replays and form,so im just watching also,hope french 15 wins tho
I've backed FF at 6-1 with BF, this could be his optimum trip and rain forecast is a bonus as well. Nicolas Clement is happy with the draw and said he will be ridden patiently. My worry is Soumillon finding trouble, he doesn't fill me with that much confidence.
Also backed Hard Dream at 16-1 EW, way too big for a horse trained by Rohaut, one of the best IMO. He looked impressive last time at Longchamp and could still be improving!
Good luck!
Also backed Hard Dream at 16-1 EW, way too big for a horse trained by Rohaut, one of the best IMO. He looked impressive last time at Longchamp and could still be improving!
Good luck!
Mr Dinos,
Agree about Hard Dream.I was hesitating about backing it but your confidence has swayed me.
16/1 with SJ looks value.
The other one I've already backed is Saint Baudolino @11/1 yesterday(shortening nicely tonight).Godolphin not doing a lot at present but this one's trained by the Master and won at the course despite not getting the breaks lto.
Good luck.
Agree about Hard Dream.I was hesitating about backing it but your confidence has swayed me.
16/1 with SJ looks value.The other one I've already backed is Saint Baudolino @11/1 yesterday(shortening nicely tonight).Godolphin not doing a lot at present but this one's trained by the Master and won at the course despite not getting the breaks lto.
Good luck.
Agree with Saint Baudolino, also like the horse he beat last time Sofast, he's a classy sort that I don't think we've seen the best of yet. They'll do for me.
I'm a huge fan of French Fifteen and was his cheerleader on the 2000 Guineas thread. If he gets the trip I think his turn of foot will be too good, a few people have questioned his stamina but since the Prix Du Jockey Club has been dropped to 1m 2f and a bit there have been a few 8f horses win or run well in the race. Traffic problems are the biggest worry for me.
I think it's worth having a saver in this race because it can be a rough old ride.
Regarding Hard Dream his odds are too big, over the years Rohaut horses always seem to be big prices and on a lot of occasions out run their odds. He is a master at getting gradual improvement out of his fillies and colts and is one to keep on the right side of from my experience. The dam of Hard Dream won at Chantilly over 10f on soft ground which is another plus.
I think Lily America could run well in the Prix De Sandringham as well, no odds for that race yet!!!
All the best Night Sight.
I think it's worth having a saver in this race because it can be a rough old ride.
Regarding Hard Dream his odds are too big, over the years Rohaut horses always seem to be big prices and on a lot of occasions out run their odds. He is a master at getting gradual improvement out of his fillies and colts and is one to keep on the right side of from my experience. The dam of Hard Dream won at Chantilly over 10f on soft ground which is another plus.
I think Lily America could run well in the Prix De Sandringham as well, no odds for that race yet!!!
All the best Night Sight.
Hmm,I see Saint Baudolino has been pricewised.
Considering Tom's not in the best of form at present it looks like I've done my dough on that one.I've got the value @11/1 but that's probably all I'll get!.
Considering Tom's not in the best of form at present it looks like I've done my dough on that one.I've got the value @11/1 but that's probably all I'll get!.
hard luck stories the norm in the french classics so looking at a few biggish priced horses , lunayir and albion each way at decent prices !
Sticking with Kesampour...Hopefully Starcraft wont blow the gift he's been given with the draw.
I was expecting to be a bit shorter for this so thought the 8/1 was decent.
Couple at big prices I've taken small stabs at are:
Tifongo - 150/1 front runner, well drawn, barzalona on board.
Sir Jade - 250/1 just hoping with this won to be honest.
I was expecting to be a bit shorter for this so thought the 8/1 was decent.
Couple at big prices I've taken small stabs at are:
Tifongo - 150/1 front runner, well drawn, barzalona on board.
Sir Jade - 250/1 just hoping with this won to be honest.
I'm also with Rohaut's.
The trainer has won a Gp 1 in this age group, Fabre's has repeatedly been beaten in trials, French Fifteen may have been flattered at Newmarket in that the milers this yr don't seem top-drawer, the Aga's looked laboured lto and the jockey at Ballydoyle may not have the experience for big French races.
Lots and lots of ifs and buts but I'm happy with my 22-1 av.
A wide open race (Imperial Monarch will perhaps now blow it apart) and gl all.
The trainer has won a Gp 1 in this age group, Fabre's has repeatedly been beaten in trials, French Fifteen may have been flattered at Newmarket in that the milers this yr don't seem top-drawer, the Aga's looked laboured lto and the jockey at Ballydoyle may not have the experience for big French races.
Lots and lots of ifs and buts but I'm happy with my 22-1 av.
A wide open race (Imperial Monarch will perhaps now blow it apart) and gl all.
well done Unclepuncle.
Such a pathetic race in a way as there are so many hard luck stories it becomes a game of chance.
Such a pathetic race in a way as there are so many hard luck stories it becomes a game of chance.
Shocking race!
Fair play unclepuncle, nice bit of luck with that one.
Stewards enquiry, this could take all week to sort out.
Fair play unclepuncle, nice bit of luck with that one.
Stewards enquiry, this could take all week to sort out.
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French Derby winner Saonois returned a Betfair SP of 617 and the last price matched was 95
well done Uncle
French Derby winner Saonois returned a Betfair SP of 617 and the last price matched was 95
well done Uncle
No luck required gents,
Went in again this morning to small stakes when I saw he'd drifted to 70.
No idea what happened to his price after that - he was matched at 800 and SP of 617 - WTF
Went in again this morning to small stakes when I saw he'd drifted to 70.
No idea what happened to his price after that - he was matched at 800 and SP of 617 - WTF
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