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Catch Me ifyoucan 05 Feb 12 19:06
Just noted these comments after racing.... Following Portrait King’s win, Phelan said “he was unlucky the last day and deserved that. He has been placed in hurdles and bumpers but that is his first win, apart from a point to point. He’d prefer further and will get four miles. “He’ll head across the water for a staying chase, probably the Eider Chase at Newcastle at the end of the month. He loved the testing conditions and it’s a tougher track than Fairyhouse which suited him.” ![]() |
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1 P2F-60 Arbor Supreme73 10 11-12 Jonjo O´Neill36 144 — —
2 4P-206 Swincombe Rock78 7 11-6 Nigel Twiston-Davies13 138 131 153 3 7P341 Mister Marker19 8 11-3 Nicky Richards50 135 128 143 4 63021 Portrait King20 7 10-13 M Phelan 131 102 148 5 0-5P30 Whinstone Boy7 11 10-7 Caroline Bailey20 Andrew Thornton 125 114 151 6 12414 Eyre Square30 9 10-7 Keith Reveley40 James Reveley 125 116 147 7 44442 Captain Americo57 10 10-6 James Ewart78 124 138 152 8 P9816 Drybrook Bedouin61 10 10-5 Nick Mitchell 123 108 154 9 6-1P1P Victory Gunner5 14 10-4 Richard Lee33 122 97 149 10 1P-P31 Morgan Be30 12 10-4 Kate Walton67 Richie McGrath 122 120 147 11 9-8714 Douglas Julian57 10 10-2 Sue Smith33 120 127 149 12 7-3412 Posh Bird19 9 10-0 Peter Niven Brian Hughes 118 128 144 13 2P-464 Incentivise73 9 9-12 Richard Lee33 116 149 154 14 2P/3-P Present M´Lord38 12 9-11 Nick Williams60 Peter Buchanan 115 — — 15 PP-531 Negus De Beaumont49 11 9-11 Ferdy Murphy38 Lucy Alexander5 115 119 153 16 2/P96U Boris The Blade11 10 9-2 Tina Jackson 106 29 92 17 4551/3 Captain Nash33 9 Chris Grant50 110 21 102 |
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Eider Handicap Chase - Winner 2012-02-25
Favourites: Portrait King (7) , Eyre Square (8) , Posh Bird (8) , Mister Marker (9) , Morgan Be (9) , Captain Americo (10) , Negus de Beaumont (12) , Arbor Supreme (14) , Drybrook Bedouin (14) , Incentivise (16) , Present MLord (16) , Douglas Julian (20) , Swincombe Rock (20) , Captain Nash (25) , Victory Gunner (25) , Whinstone Boy (33) , Boris The Blade (50) |
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Potrait King runnin off 13lbs higher than Irish mark - walofs
seriously fancy him, will stay all day but 13lbs ffs! |
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11lbs****
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Question for you Irish boys.
Doesn't this horse need bottomless ground ? It's good/good to soft at the moment. |
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Has been placed on yielding which is prob g/s over there
I think the step up in trip has been the making of him, the further the better He has done nothin much on heavy ground either, but the step up in trip seems to have improved him massively! I dont think the ground will be a problem |
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most of these want testing ground respect eyre square but arbor supreme a class above these two lung openers in hurdle races mark has tumbled and i can see him going really close
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apologies mark hasnt changed but that run splitting the midnight club and oscar time very good also for last two seasons he has needed his first two runs each season before running well
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I think Arbor can outclass these if returning to form
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Eyre Square has to be on my side at 8/1. Won the class 2 Borders National off 120. Now only 5lbs higher.
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stick with those at the bottom of the weights like Incentivise,Negus de Beaumont, Victory Gunner and Drybrook Bedouin
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Tks Barry
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judorick i think top wieghts do well in this race!
im surprised reveley didnt enter benny be good, he must fancy eyre square. |
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While the Eider must surely be favourite, Eyre Square also jocked up for race at Warwick on Friday.
Arbor Supreme also appeals to some extent as does Incentivise from much lower down, but no play AP in this race and I will wait for final decs to see if anything appeals then |
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Looks a dire race to me.
Negus De Beaumont has pulled up in this race the last twice. Will he get the trip? Both times the going was Heavy though so better ground may help in thet respect. |
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11lbs doesn't seem to harsh BJG ? Didn't he win rather well last time out ?
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The 11lbs is on top of what he was put up lto sint - e.g 11lbs on top of his irish mark
Seems to have changed on the RP site now - Was up 7lbs for the win lto 113 up to 120 And runnin here off 131 But its changed now - he never went up 18lbs for winnin lto surely ![]() |
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yes its 18lb and as well as he won it will take some doing off this higher mark arbor supreme for me he only has to repeat his run in last years bobbyjo
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up 18lbs for winnin lto
Won't be bringin' him over so ![]() |
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Well i think he was put up 7lbs to 120 and the english hcapper added 11lbs
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Douglas Julian. On all known evidence looks a non stayer.Is seriously one paced, but I have a hunch that
extreme trips may will be the making of him, being by Overbury.Will have a speculative few quid win & place |
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had a few quid speculator on Posh Bird whilst 4 places are still available. Form figures over further than 3 miles are 271 and she looks to have hit form in her last two runs finishing 1st and 2nd.
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sintonian have to agree, looks a shocker of a race...
For me I quite like Captain Americo, he never seemed happy in the borders, just never seemed himself. He seems to appreciate Newcastle, and I think the trip will place to his strengths. 8/1 is a fair price. |
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He was the other one I was considering VK, might save on him.
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Eyre Square
ALL IN - 7/1!!! ![]() |
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11 declared.
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i've gone for captain americo 7 gtd as i hope the good ground will suit and help him see the trip out
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Now decs have been made, have had a small e/w on Incentivise.
Can run off it's true mark with Arbor out, proven at distances, trainer good with these type of horses and new jockey made some appeal. In what people have already described as a poor race, the price more than makes up for his recent level of form. If runs to his best could go close |
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Captain Americo needs 4m + imo, but has long struggled over the bigger obstacles, missing one or two out and rarely fluent, that said i think the better ground will help his fencing although not enough to tempt me to invest.
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it really is an awful renewal....
The Irish raider appears a warm order on merit , I just cant see Douglas Julien staying the trip, but Captain Americano and Incentivise look more likely to??... Can Lucy A galvanise Negus??....and can Morgan B repeat near miss of 2 years ago??.... |
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Portrait King 5-1 b.o.g. that looks fair to me. 7-y-o improver, only had 5 chase runs, good economical jumper. So his English mark is 11 lb higher than Irish but 8lb hasn't stopped others in the past and this is a dire race.
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Portrait King totally unexposed at this sort of trip and brings in a totally different formline. Impoosib;e for the handicappers to know what to do with him. Doubt he will come off the bridle against this crowd.
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18lb higher than his win in ireland and totally different ground not for me
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18lb higher than his win in ireland and totally different ground not for me
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Douglas Julian has loads of stamina in the pedigree, well worth a nibble at the prices IMO.
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V V poor race.
Only 4-5 will finish. Total curveball. Boris the blade.crazy price. Track trip ground,time of year,not too old at 10. glimmer of promise last time out. surely overpriced |
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Portrait different class to this lot,
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after several hours of cogitation I have come to the conclusion that the best way to play this race is BACK to lay in play on CAPTAIN AMERICO at 8.2/8.4
What I have visualised is that he is going to get a soft lead from all the hold up horses, certainly for a lap at least. The only one who might give some pace pressure is Negus de Beaumont but he is not in great form and I can't imagine he will hang around long So, on the second circuit when there are only 6 or so fences to go the race should start to unravel and if he has conserved enough energy by going slow enough long enough Captain Americo should be quick enough to shoot clear as they jump the 4th or 3rd last. At that point the price should collapse, as all the jockeys on the stayers start getting animated to get their mounts going for the finish, and I will be happily getting matched for 1.5 times my back stake and not caring if he gets to the line first Mark Miwordz ![]() |