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8/11 out to evens
Thousand Stars 7/2 into 2s
WPM just enterin him to scare off the opposition for his other 1?!
Thousand Stars 7/2 into 2s
WPM just enterin him to scare off the opposition for his other 1?!
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I posted on the Irish Forum that i wouldn't touch the 8/11 A/P and would rather back him @ 1/2 or shorter on the day, i really find it hard to trust any of our trainers anymore to keep the public informed
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Still a few bob up at 2.64 on here so maybe not too bad but.....
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Did you see page 7 in todays RP? Justin O'Hanlons Dark Horses - FFS
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Nope - no RP today
Did he put up Hurricane Fly and Big Bucks?  |
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Put up Kilcrea
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pphorseracing Paddy Power Racing
Paddy sd: "We just cant lay 'The Fly' while weve seen a lot of dough for Thousand Stars including a large cash bet from a connected punter." |
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Go away
fkin bastard |
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Paddy sd: "We just cant lay 'The Fly' while weve seen a lot of dough for Thousand Stars including a large cash bet from a connected punter."
How come 'connected' punters can have what they like on and this unconnected punter was told I could have £10.84 max on Voler? Don't they want the mug money??? |
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All about the PR innit The Headmaster, prob took a score on it |
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You'll have done well to get a score on, BJG.
Daft race to price up anyway, Mr Power. You honestly telling me that a well-connected punter comes in with a large cash bet on the 7/2 second fav with doubts about the odds-on fav from the same yard and you let him have it....but don't want to take twenty quid on Voler from a know-nothing. You're either lying ...or plain@rsed thick. |
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Unaccompanied for me.
I know she is a 4yo, but she is built like a steeplchaser, and she receives an age allownace an sex allowance. Form of the Triumph is solid. Just hope Weld runs her as she was meant to run in the Hattons Grace. Took 7's yesterday. |
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pphorseracing Paddy Power Racing
Istabraq festival hurdle market now suspended   |
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pphorseracing Paddy Power Racing
Paddy sd: “weve now seen a lot of money for 1000 stars & until Willie Mullins can give people a bit more info, we're just too in the dark." |
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Let it never be said chaps that the WPMullins yard is not a gambling yard. I wont have a bit of it!
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Wrecks my head though why he cant just come out and say wats happenin! Paul Nicholls is brilliant at it, lets the punters know immediately for the most part
At this stage WPM 100% knows wats runnin here and wat state they are in but still wont say anything |
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AGREED.
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Paddy Power this afternoon suspended betting on next Thursday’s Istabraq Festival Hurdle after doubts emerged regarding the participation of ante-post favourite Hurricane Fly.
The Irish layers reported a surge of interest in Hurricane Fly’s stablemate Thousand Stars, and were forced to stop betting on the Leopardstown Grade 1 event. Paddy Power, a spokesman for the bookmakers, said: “The cash has just kept coming for Thousand Stars and we are just too in the dark about what’s happening until Willie Mullins lets people know what’s going on.” Trainer Willie Mullins has said little about his stable star but did leave him in the Istabraq Hurdle at Tuesday’s confirmation stage. Speaking on Tuesday, Mullins said: “Hurricane Fly is left in the Istabraq Festival Hurdle. We’ve also left in Thousand Stars and I’ve really nothing more to say at this stage.” wafdc |
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It is what it is. If I had a horse in training I would want things kept in the yard until I said any different. The trainers job is to not only train horses to the best of their ability but it's also to keep owners happy. We don't own these horses and we don't have to back short priced injury prone horses either. Nicholls has put people away every week with some of the stuff he comes out with. He talks a lot more I'll give you that.
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can't remember who it was but someone put a thread
on horse racing saying HF was a doubt,even for Cheltenham. People had a pop,me included,hope he's wrong but don't look good if he misses this. |
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TBH I don't blame Mullins for wanting to keep his mouth shout as he seems to have a LOT of difficulty keeping horses sound in that barn. Best not say anything until you actually manage to get them there, eh Willie? Paul Nicholls doesn't seem to have the injury problems that Mullins does, so is probably a little more confident when publically nominating a target.
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wish we had something over here that connections didn't mind sending over to play second fiddle to HF with but was good enough to smash the bl00dy life out of poxy thousand stars.
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Whether he's doing it to scare away the oppostion for his other runner or to get a better price so he can get
a bet on 1,000 stars or just being plain awkward, it leaves a bad taste and does nothing to promote racing. |
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Last price matched for Cheltenham = 4.7
Probably small stakes, but still.... |
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Indeed tinkler. Mr Mullins would do well to remember no punters = no racing = no need for trainers.
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If there was something majorly wrong with Hurricane, wouldn't Willie not have taken him out of the race? Maybe he just doesn't want to tempt fate by saying its all systems go with the horse and then for the horse to have a setback. Maybe, its wishful thinking but I've a funny feeling that he'll run next week.
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If the stable wanted to lump on 1000 Stars antepost, then entering HF would make perfect sense
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Good point Headmaster. If Martin Pipe had had the injuries Mullins gets there'd be a whole series of Panorama dedicated to it. Pipe wasn't one of the in-crowd though.
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Stake & Chips
If the stable wanted to lump on 1000 Stars antepost, then entering HF would make perfect sense. I'd be very surprised if getting a price in a Grade 1 would be behind Willie's thinking. We're talking about the best hurdler we've seen for quite some time here and whatever it was which ruled him out of the Morgiana wasn't regarded as serious. Whatever about scaring away the opposition, that I can sort of understand but connections of all the other runners will know up to 10am on decs day whether Hurricane Fly is in the race or not so that doesn't make much sense either. |
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Naturally cautious. You can imagine the fiasco with Binocular in his champion hurdle year and New Approach when he won the Derby. Trainers have learnt their lessons.
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Don't go along with that at all. Of course some will be annoyed when a horse is absolutely ruled out and then miraculously turns up and wins, but is there much wrong with saying he's 50/50, we're struggling, he's banged a joint and it'll be a race against time...etc.etc.
I find Mullins' attitude regrettable and am increasingly finding him a very difficult person to warm to. Not that he'd give a monkey's clearly |
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Could warm to Willie as much as Ferdy!!
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Child of Mine : I don't understand how the other connections can know whether or not HF is to run or not in
advance of having to make a declaration for their own horse. Could you explain how it works? |
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Trainers talk to each other
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Still an assumption that they would know, though.
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Maybe 1000 stars has just got better and better?
I was very impressed with his last run.Obviously something would have to be amiss with HF also.I mean not 100 %. Thats how I would read it anyway. |
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Off subject I know but nowadays we are being put away more and more by stables IMO.Other than the silly odds ones I wait for NRNB now usually the morning on the day before the race.The way forward I think.
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tinkler
Child of Mine : I don't understand how the other connections can know whether or not HF is to run or not in advance of having to make a declaration for their own horse. Could you explain how it works? On HRI'S declaration system, trainers can see what horses are and aren't declared right up until declaration time. That's why there are so many small fields in so many of the Grade 1's cos the big names seem to scare off the lesser horses. |