Pour Moi?

I've been trying to find out since yesterday (see Arc thread).

The price eased marginally yesterday and I was on alert, but it came back to 4.3 ish.
Today it's softened substantially. The fact that PP has taken it down makes me think
something must be going on. Meandre's price has come in a few points today too.

wednesday...its saturday now, get on the blower.

ok, thought you were Andres mate...

11/2 .. was 100/30 when I checked last week.

this could be as simple as a nick or a bad scope which will make the prix niel difficult to win but if there was big questions about the arc he would have drifted much bigger and quicker

Magnier is for the punters...

Ladbrokes have taken down their Arc market. Looks ominous.

is that? I mean it must be but down to 5.3 within a minute of me typing this!!! and was matched too, not taken down.

Pou Moi racing career over, statement very shortly.

real shame

oh wow,

my antepost book on the arc

rewilding- cactus
so you think- doubtful
and been consistently backing Pour Moi since the Derby.

Antepost. Sometimes you can only question your sanity.

It's a real shame Pour Moi is injured. Lightly raced, brilliant speed,could have done lots more.

Can't see why you would think that Graeme

No one thought it was a great Derby at the time . With Treasure Beach winning a couple of Group 1s actually looks better now .

POUR MOI, ante-post favourite for the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe, will not race again and is to be retired to Coolmore for the 2012 breeding season,the stud announced on Saturday.

The spectacular Derby winner suffered a severe overreach to his near-fore fetlock during exercise at Chantilly on Friday morning, Coolmore said on their Twitter account.

Rumours had circulated about the Derby winner's well-being since Friday night and on Saturday morning leading bookmakers began to remove him from their betting on the end-of-season Longchamp showpiece.

So You Think, Workforce, Nathaniel and Sarafina were among horses at the head of the market for the Arc as layers removed Pour Moi from their lists, but no clear favourite has yet emerged.

Chris Cook

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/horse-racing

Pour Moi, a dramatic winner of this year's Derby, has been retired after suffering an injury on the gallops on Friday morning. A statement on Saturday afternoon from his owners, Coolmore, said that he had suffered "a severe over-reach" while working at Chantilly and would now be prepared for a new career at their stud in Ireland.

The news came after hours of speculation about the wellbeing of the horse, who had been favourite for the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe in October. He was a general 3-1 shot for that race as betting shops opened their doors on Saturday but, by lunchtime, he was available at double those odds on Betfair and high street firms reported a suspicious amount of interest in his main market rivals. Journalists who contacted the yard of his trainer, André Fabre, were told he was too busy to comment or found that their calls went unanswered.

Coolmore's statement, made through Twitter, came only after Pour Moi had drifted to bigger than 100-1 for the Arc while injury rumours spread.

The partners in Coolmore are wealthy, powerful men, accustomed to releasing news in their own time but it is hard to imagine what justification there could be for a delay of more than 24 hours before saying anything at all in such a high-profile case.

A source close to the owners initially indicated that a statement would be made on Sunday but that was presumably brought forward when it became clear that the substance had leaked. Fabre later added to the mystery when reported by the Press Association as saying "it happened two days ago". "When it was scanned, you could see what the damage was," he added. "It was deeper than we thought."

Anyone who backed Pour Moi between Friday morning and Saturday afternoon may feel distinctly aggrieved, though they are unlikely to be many in number and some bookmakers may be persuaded to void their bets. Still, the impression has been reinforced of racing as a sport whose participants do not care if you blow your money on a runner whose chance is actually nil.

It is to be hoped that Betfair takes a careful look at the accounts of those who were so keen to lay Pour Moi before news of his fate was widely known. A betting market can move on the basis of rumour alone but there are clear grounds for concern that someone somewhere may have profited from the misuse of inside information.

Pour Moi was last seen on a racecourse in June, finishing strongly to win the Derby by a head while his jockey, Mickael Barzalona, caused a sensation by standing up in his irons to celebrate even before his mount was in front. The plan had been for the colt to return to action in two weeks' time for the Prix Niel, an Arc trial, at Longchamp.

"What he did at Epsom was amazing, to go from last to first," Fabre added. "For a horse to get there so easily, the turn of foot he showed was a sign of great ability. I have never trained a middle-distance horse that had such acceleration."

Pour Moi will be the first Derby winner not to race again since Secreto in 1984. In his absence, the new Arc favourite is another Coolmore runner, So You Think, on 5-1, with Sarafina and Workforce at 11-2.

In a finish reminiscent of Pour Moi's Derby, Dubawi Gold finished strongly to land the Celebration Mile here on Saturday, leaving the impression that he was significantly better than the bare result, which records him as beating Set The Trend by half a length. His victory means that his trainer, Richard Hannon, still has a fighting chance of fending off Sir Henry Cecil for the champion trainer's title, especially since Dubawi Gold may now be aimed at the very valuable QEII at Ascot in October. Longchamp's Prix du Moulin is also an option.

The horse's owner, Andrew Tinkler, spent Saturday in a boat off St Tropez with the trainer's son. Hannon Sr took great delight in reporting that both men were heartily seasick.

They are more concerned about the Derby than the Arc.

SNA their main hope now imo

SNA goes for a trial.

I cant see that happening at all tbh.