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BEACON LODGE - Decent Each way chance but always finds one too good at this level
DUBAWI GOLD - Seems unlikely to turn up has other options - Good Sun 3:20
EMERALD Commander - Stables second string poor run latest, 7th behind Premio Loco
FAMOUS NAME - Not sure about this one... most wins have been at group 3, but not sure he is aimed for this, if it turns up will have a decent chance. Interesting if declared
POETS VOICE - Poor run latest but that was in the WORLD CUP in Dubai, I think that run can be forgiven and has been rested since. Won this race last year and went on to beat Rip Van Winkle. Worth another chance.
PREMIO LOCO - Has a good record in small field races at this distance... may be worth a nibble
STRONG SUIT - Has not won at a mile, although winning so decisively last time out, was beaten by Zoffany. Also trainer has stated that he may not run if it turns soft. My guess is there are better mile horses in this field, and may give Strong Suit more to do.
SET THE TREND - Has CD form at Goodwood, But beaten by Emerald Commander latest
ZAFISIO - Engaged 6:40 Windsor no chance
RIGGINS - Handicapper ran poorly last few runs - no chance
ZOFFANY - Really like this horse, but very poor run latest, I think the horse did not like the ground, but has beaten STRONG SUIT. Not won at at a mile, and too many 2's against his name
Conclusion: Tough race to predict as I reckon only 7 or 8 horses will turn up. But very confident about the chances of POETS VOICE.
1 POETS Voice
2 STRONG Suit/*FAMOUS Name
3 Premio Loco
* if Famous Name is declared then FAMOUS Name (2nd)
DUBAWI GOLD - Seems unlikely to turn up has other options - Good Sun 3:20
EMERALD Commander - Stables second string poor run latest, 7th behind Premio Loco
FAMOUS NAME - Not sure about this one... most wins have been at group 3, but not sure he is aimed for this, if it turns up will have a decent chance. Interesting if declared
POETS VOICE - Poor run latest but that was in the WORLD CUP in Dubai, I think that run can be forgiven and has been rested since. Won this race last year and went on to beat Rip Van Winkle. Worth another chance.
PREMIO LOCO - Has a good record in small field races at this distance... may be worth a nibble
STRONG SUIT - Has not won at a mile, although winning so decisively last time out, was beaten by Zoffany. Also trainer has stated that he may not run if it turns soft. My guess is there are better mile horses in this field, and may give Strong Suit more to do.
SET THE TREND - Has CD form at Goodwood, But beaten by Emerald Commander latest
ZAFISIO - Engaged 6:40 Windsor no chance
RIGGINS - Handicapper ran poorly last few runs - no chance
ZOFFANY - Really like this horse, but very poor run latest, I think the horse did not like the ground, but has beaten STRONG SUIT. Not won at at a mile, and too many 2's against his name
Conclusion: Tough race to predict as I reckon only 7 or 8 horses will turn up. But very confident about the chances of POETS VOICE.
1 POETS Voice
2 STRONG Suit/*FAMOUS Name
3 Premio Loco
* if Famous Name is declared then FAMOUS Name (2nd)
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I agree and have backed Poets Voice.
Rain in West Sussex last night, clear now but forecast suggests more is due before the weekend which leads me to believe connections will want to avoid bottoming him out on unsuitable going before the BC. Hopefully (very unsporting comment follows) the field will be nearer last year's size. |
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I am surprised Fanunalter does not go for this tbh. Would have had a great chance.
I think String Suit is a very good horse but not sure about 1 mile on possibly soft going so will wait and see. |
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There are big question marks about the top 3 in the betting and agree that horses like Fanualter and also Dance and
dance both with d/h track form at Epsom , would have had a major chance. The pace of the race is likely to have a very big impact on the result. If they go an average to slow pace Strong suit has everychance of staying effectively on fastish ground over this easy mile. Fast pace ,good to soft ground would be a problem. Poets voice has run very poorly in 2 of his last 3 starts and its anyone's guess as to whether he'll be in the form he was a year ago. Zoffany has the best piece of form going into the race, when splitting Frankel and excelebration. His poor run last time out isn't that easy to forgive but AOB is very good at getting horse to bounce back after a poor run. If the race was at stiff Ascot with a fast pace he'd be a cracking bet at 5/1. Over Goodwoods easier mile with no pacemaker sent over for him the situation looks murkier. No bet at this stage until ground and declarations known. |
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Poets voices 2 poor runs were the only times he has raced over 10f. All the evidence is that he's a miler so I was willing to disregard them both.
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Strong Suit can't possibly beat Zoffany giving him 3lbs. Zoffany seems a really good bet, numerous horses ran poorly last time in Prix De Gueest(???).
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Zoffanys last run forgiveable imo, trip too short werent it ?
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Yeah, it was 6.5 furlongs.
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Having just looked at a re-run of the french race he did run better that the bare form suggests as he was
eased down a nearly a furlong out when all chance had gone. Quite why he ran in a 6 1/2f race when he's been doing all his best work at the end of a mile is baffling. The bottom line is that he is the only horse to get close to Frankel this year and had the very gifted Excelebration 1 1/2 lengths back in third. Since then he ran on well in a french race ran at a crawl and probably found 6 1/2f too sharp last time. A reproducton of his Ascot form will be too much for these. The dilemma from an ante post point of view is whether he is an intended runner or not. If he is 5/1 is too big. The problem is if you wait the race could cut up and he'll be 5/2. Its never easy. |
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Sint I think Fanunalter has been sold and is heading down under
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Strong Suit a n/r according to owners.
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It looks as though its been tipping down for the last 2 hours at Goodwood also.
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Yes STRONG SUIT Non runner...
will be interesting to see who is declared for this. |
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Poets
Emerald Dubawi Riggins Set the Trend Beacon Premio No Zoffany or Famous Name. |
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Ante Post carnage. No wonder all the shrewdies were backing Poets Voice yesterday at 4's. Looking at 7/4 now.
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Yep well done DD, Got a nice price now, he just needs to win.
cheers Big O, had no idea he had been sold, he only ran a few weeks ago when he was very unlucky in-running. |
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trainer aleady issued a massive warning today that poets will come on a hell of alot for the run,might still win,but no bet for me,even if it were at the bigger early prices
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trainer aleady issued a massive warning today that poets will come on a hell of alot for the run,might still win,but no bet for me,even if it were at the bigger early prices
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Beacon Lodge always runs his race with cut in the ground ...
.. think i'll leave the race though, fav should win if fit but enough doubts to swerve. SBS just had a winner at Newmarket,fwiw. |
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btw TFM, i'd actually take what SBS says with a pinch of salt. Pretty sure he said something similar about Delegator last season before he hacked up at Newbury as 3/1 fav.
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Cheers Sint.
Stable in form, I take trainer comments with huge pinch of salt. |
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I take what most trainers say with a pinch of salt sint,but it is extremely rare for SBS to come out and warn punters before the race,he usally just gives his same old boring statement before every race,that aside i dont think PV is a world beater by any means,but it is a very weak race and he should deliver if fit enough,but thats a big 'if'
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Its unlikely they'll have him fully wound up first time out in a group 2 race.
At 6/4 he's crying out to be opposed but with what? Dubawi Gold was given a poor ride at Ascot and pulled way to hard at Newbury after a lay off . Will like the surface and the track. The 3 y/o milers are a good crop this year. Beacon Lodge very consistent under these conditions and if PV and DG don't perform ,which is very possible , he could take advantage. Premio loco is a fast ground horse and will need it to dry out. set the trend - if Emerald commander isn't used as a pacemaker , he'll get a soft lead and should run well. Drawn in stall 1 with a rail to run against and a likely reasonable early pace there is every chance hughes will be able to settle Dubawi Gold at the back. He could have gone over the top for the year but at 5/1 its worth taking a chance that he hasn't |
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Poets Voice returning from long layoff a negative for me,I like the godolphin 2nd string could run good race in the conditions being by pivotal,8 runners would have been ideal for some each way bets,prob best watched
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