Aidan O'brien

whats it got to do with him if its a small field?

It's Bart!

He appears to be softening up the chosen races IMO with this constant dribble, trying to scare off any opposition, that they have no chance as he has "such a wonderful, brilliant, amazing, best ever, sensational, horse fit for a Queen, yada yada yada yada, BS.

Trainers here in Australia do not carry on like a 12 year old girl with a crush on their first pony.

Sorry but this is making me vomit, and im a big fan of SYT but its embarrassing now, enough is enough, just shut the **** up and get on with it.

Apparently Betfair need to approve my photo of Bart before i a can post it, how stupid is that, GTFO?

Anyway, clearly Bart is much grumpier than me and has bigger eyebrows than my avatar photo.

He does it every year with at least one horse. I guess it's antagonizing for people. It's almost as if he thinks people are daft. Nobody is going to buy a horse on a count of his excuses or superlatives. It's a waste of time listening to the guy.

Just got this email 2 minutes ago, I kid you not!

"Master trainer Aidan O'Brien is not a man given to over-hyping his horses. So it was enlightening to hear his comments after his Aussie import So You Think."

BWAHAHAHA..............

are yous two serious, he talks up his horses (for obvious reasons) and other trainers chicken out and hes the one to blame?!

I never said that. You suffer from the Sintonians. In other words you just make it up without reading something properly.

sorry, horse singular, on your part.

What i mean is, i didn't make comment on So You Think's opponents, or lack of them. You can only beat what turns up. I was just agreeing with regards to the superlatives and antagonism we hear from that trainer with regards to certain horses. Nobody is going to buy horses because of what he says. Many people who buy horses have a few bob and know about horses, and for those who don't they hire someone to know for them.

I take full responsibility for any silliness said here, Graeme has nothing to do with it.

I am the lone Adan O'Brien antagonist here.

O'Brien, Frankel looks beatable after that performance, stop talking $hit and get on with it.

Say what you like, force, but tomorrow's race is a far cry from the egg and spoon races he's been contesting in Ireland and quality wise it's a step up from what he's been facing Down Under.

If he's the machine people think he'll prove it tomorrow but if there's a day he'll get beat it will be tomorrow.
You should be supporting O'Brien here cos if there's one trainer who's liable to get the best out of this horse, it's him.

tbf he does talk every horse up.

BUT i dont blame HIM for the small fields, this was his engagement and workforce and many others had a chance to take him on here if they so wished.

fwiw, bart cummings has won over 120 gr1 races and rates this fella his best.

i dont know if he will win tomorrow like the rest of u, but he does have an outstanding record , (not just the 2 gash races in ireland), he won two cox plates , the first when he was still offically a 2 yr old which in oz in unheard of, it just doesnt happen, no matter how good horses are. hes a pretty short price so a cheap lay for those against him i suppose. should be a good race , and i expect him to win again.


gl

Who exactly chickened out here anyway? Workforce was never going to show over 10f. Aiaden O'brien seems to have a fair few of the other decent 10f horses. And from all reports plantuer is one hell of a 10f horse.

I don't think Bart is ever on record as saying that this horse is better than Galilee...

I think it was more the press down here that started the SYT is the best Bart's trained stuff.

Similarly it appears the press is to blame up there, Aiden seems to be nothing more than a gentleman and when continually asked about the horse always gives his time.

He is hardly going to stand there and say ' yeah he's goes okay I suppose'...

This man is "not amused" and neither am I.

STFU and get on with it.

tommyjone 15 Jun 11 01:23 
Who exactly chickened out here anyway? Workforce was never going to show over 10f. Aiaden O'brien seems to have a fair few of the other decent 10f horses. And from all reports plantuer is one hell of a 10f horse.
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he's not worth half as much if doesnt before he's retired.

This the exact scenario i was worrying about, Adan talking complete BS all month then looking like a mug.

ADAN..........LOSE.

Aidan now saying the horse wasn't fit and that the horses defeat was all his own fault

beaten by a better horse?

Can't say that can you really

LOL, SYT is now officially Irish, I am disowning him as Australian.

ADAN IS A COMPLETE MUPPET.

He's pretty good at running horses unfit and never telling the public, and when they are fit and get beaten fair and square he's telling us the horse was unfit after the race, how can anybody take this slightly loopers individual serious after this?

Apparently AOB is taking responsibility for not having pushed SYT harder. Yup - he says he brought a horse not fully fit to Ascot. You couldn't make it up. The horse wasn't good enough to win. Accept defeat and the bubble's burst. This is no world beater. A very good horse yes, but he's been running to RPR128 in all his recent races, & Rewilding came into the race a progressive horse on RPR124+. He's no doubt improved from his seasonal debut 124 run & looked to be going away at the finish so the Arc looks beyond SYT as well, especially with Workforce capable of 130+. I'm not even sure SYT will prove to be the best in his stable, should SNA (125+) or Await the Dawn (124+) get the chance to take him on, there surely wouldn't be much in it.

Apparently AOB is taking responsibility for not having pushed SYT harder. Yup - he says he brought a horse not fully fit to Ascot. You couldn't make it up. The horse wasn't good enough to win. Accept defeat and the bubble's burst. This is no world beater. A very good horse yes, but he's been running to RPR128 in all his recent races, & Rewilding came into the race a progressive horse on RPR124+. He's no doubt improved from his seasonal debut 124 run & looked to be going away at the finish so the Arc looks beyond SYT as well, especially with Workforce capable of 130+. I'm not even sure SYT will prove to be the best in his stable, should SNA (125+) or Await the Dawn (124+) get the chance to take him on, there surely wouldn't be much in it.

Just a blip on his career.

He did marvellous jobs with Starspangledbanner and Haradsun and will do the same with SYT.

Infact I wouldn't be surprised if some phantom injury is found tonight and the horse is promptly retired in the morning, never to race again. Isn't that the norm for such hype horses when they are finally beaten? Make an excuse and send em to the breeding sheds at inflated prices... ;)

He be kept in training....that was still a unbelievable run smashing horse by 6l and beat Plantuer on of sight.


Rewilding is a Top class horse and proved it today but you needed to take a leap of faith

Do you honestly think Planteur has run to his best? He was beaten by 66/1 shot Sri Putra! Sri Putra could be put on 118 but Planteur has run to 124 previously so it looks very doubtful Planteur has run to his best. If he had, you'd have to put SYT and Rewilding both in the 130s (!)

The fact is he was beaten by a better horse on the day. Rewilding is obviously a horse with distance dimension. I couldn't see him beating SYT over todays trip considering he's won over 14-15f. All this rubbish about not training the horses hard enough was embarrasing to listen to. Take it on the chin. Excellent race.

Have to agree with biggie77, if he SYT wants to patch the burst bubble it will be over 10f, doesn't look like a horse that would be suited to a strong run 12f like the Arc.

How far would Rewilding have finished in front if they covered another furlong say?

A lot of Aussies will be using Adans head as a dart board tomorrow.

Anyway well done to the winner and Frankie.

Same logic applies to SYT. I dont think he ran up to his best and his pacemaker was a joke actually being a negative to the horse he wanted to help. It was a bad a piece of riding by Joesph O Brien in a Group 1 actually cutting off SYT and not setting quick but good fractions. He couldn't inject any sort of pace until after 2f where SYT was incredibly keen. It was a disaster from start to finish and still beat the field 6l.

Rewilding has put in a superstar performance and wore him down because he had stamina in abudance and was settled early.

SYT is still a Superstar and will prove it but Jan Vermeer is not the pacemaker??....What was wrong with Windsor Palace?. A complete muck up by the trainer's son and you could say employing a Derby Favorite as a pacemaker.

Bad day for Coolmore but that is racing...

He never raced much in Australia. I don't know why they would want his head on a dart board. You can't question his ability to train a horse, such as Haradasun. SYT simply isn't as good as people would have you believe.

Graeme but your logic Rewilding isn't a Superb Horse....I actually think Rewilding is a superb Horse and is worthy to be called such after that performance over 10f when 12f could be his best. I think the Front 2 are superb Horses.

One thing is for sure...what a division we have this year. Unbelievable Races to come.

Agree with the above poster, Aidan comes across terribly, talking about the horse as if the horse flew the plane himself from Aus.

He did the same with Starspangled last yr. In these sprints there is a length or two between the front 5 and he is talking about the horse as if it could speak himself and was from Mars.  It is truly embarassing and now the bubble is burst with SYT, in order to protect its value at stud, he blames himself. Great trainer, which is all that matters for Coolmore, but little wonder there is little good will towards that operation.

"Graeme but your logic Rewilding isn't a Superb Horse"


What logic is that ?....i think i said i didn't think he was a 10f horse. I said this because his last 6 runs before today had been over 11f(twice), 12f(3times) and 15f. He also skipped the Dubai gold cup for the Sheema classic. The King George is looking like a hot race. I think Workforce would win it, so i don't see how he's being pushed out, unless he doesn't go.

The tactics went all wrong for SYT today.

Claiming SYT was not spot on - he's had 2 runs, and was this not the horse Aidan's wife tweeted about on Sat, after his final piece of work, claiming he'd effortlessly pulled clear of his work-partner? !

This where i believe Adan truly stuffed up, especially knowing SYT can stay given hes run 2 miles, he talked about bringing him back to 1 mile and ran him in two soft races when he had the chance to at least go the Lockinge on English soil for one of those races.

IMHO Adan has taken the too soft approach to this race and is targeting the wrong distance as well going forward.

Mistake.

The thing is if the horse had held on and won by a neck?, everyone would probably be saying he was idling out in front, the r/up was flattered to get so close to him etc etc and all that blah.

Can nobody except the fact the horse is probably not as good as you thought or wanted him to be?, hence excuses flying everywhere, so they were 6L clear of the third, and even if Planteur disappointed he's hardly the greatest yardstick as he's been beaten numerous times before at the top level!.

I am Irish and I think O'Brien is the best trainer of racehorses in the world. Call me foolish if you want but from Cummings to Pletcher, and Sumii to Fabre, O'Brien has no superior IMO. However, soemtimes he dosen't help himself with his comments, e.g. championing So You Think before this race.

I do think there is an element of truth in what he says about SYT's condition though. Naturally, since this horse has a lot more targets this season, we should have expected that he wouldn't be 'fully' trained up for this. Now by that I mean, there probably is 5-10% improvement to come, which could amount to a lot. I think that is a fair assertion?

The colt is clearly very smart, and a second in the Prince of Wales' confirms that. However, he has not proved himself the champion on these shores that I and others said he would amount to. For that, we must give credit to those who called it right. HOWEVER, I am standing by what I said earlier, and I expect, an improved run next time out. He will prove himself a champion before the end of the season, that is my belief.

"I do think there is an element of truth in what he says about SYT's condition though"


I don't. If SYT is the best horse he's ever trained, then he's obviously been fit enough to prove this at home. So whichever way you look at it, he's talking a load of old baws.

I have given my blessing to the winner already and moved on from that.

At the end of the day im the OP of the thread which i started yesterday, I was sensing trouble brewing before this race even began.

This is a debacle by any stretch of the imagination, declaring a horse "the best ever" after training it for two pi$$ weak Irish race wins.

Bart Cummings is on record as saying he "could be" his best ever and he had the record to at least back it up in Australia.

This only goes to show Adan O'brien has drunk too much of his own Koole Aid.

One race though is very quick to say he isn't as good as they say. The bubble has been burst but i think he come good over the summer. Provided they don't make a complete balls up of the tactics something which Coolmore have done plenty times before.

On another note Zarooni is having a great start to his new career...hopefully they get rid of Suroor, if that has not shown Sheikh who to back in a 2 horse race i don't know what will.

Graeme, I have no opinion on the pecking order of Aidan O'Brien trained horses. Personally, I was very fond of George Washington but I'm afraid I might be laughed at if I said he was the best he'd trained.

I was just refering to what Aidan said after today's race. I think So You Think will improve from today. He knows he took a gamble and it almost paid off, but ultimately it didn't. They should have trained him up more for today but that was at the risk of sacrificing later targets.

Well im finished with my comments on this matter for now and moving on, i have business to attend to.

Whats his next race target then do you think?

Many would say George was the best AO'B's trained - personally I'd go for Dylan Thomas.

Clearly a very good horse So You think but needlessly hyped by by the trainer. Must have a good chance if he goes for the Eclipse. This race should have put him spot on.

Was it East Lower Gooner who said he'll go for the Classic?

That could be the ultimate aim? Maybe they are trying not to ruin that chance by having him over the top but at the same time, they are trying to sneak a few Group Ones along the way.

Not sure if many would say that AT, bar maybe me! Giant's Causeway, Galileo, Yeats weren't bad. But George was unique in his own way!

We'll see whether SYT was not fully tuned up for today in good time but it was bad form by the trainer to deflect attention from the winner by making excuses. If he was not tuned up, it was bad form of O'Brien not to let us know before the race. Or maybe he's just trying to protect SYT's stud value. Before the race the trainer talking about SYT as if he did not need training, as if he could perform miracles, but of course that was more typical gas and hype from Coolmore.

Incidentally, the very best horse Aidan has trained, by a country mile, was the invincible, the incomparable ISTABRAQ.

I'll throw this out there, see what people think but could they give So You Think a break? Come back for the Irish Champion and then the Classic?

Let Zoffany go to the Sussex and QEII, St. Nicholas Abbey to the King George, Cape Blanco / Await The Dawn / Roderic O'Connor for the Internaional and the Eclipse. The Derby horses are there as well for those kind of races.

Take the winner out and he'd be lauded as a champion.

The excuses were on message but clearly bulls***, both horses are high 120s AT LEAST and a big thankyou to the recession for making the bloodstock world think fk it, let's just race 'em.

Rewilding is clearly some tool though and running it at such a pace helped him into the race, as did the stiff finish.

I really cant believe anyone would believe Aidan had this horse anything but 100% fit today. My Word.

The tactics cost SYT today. He was keen, got messed around with when the pacemaker flew past, and got nutted on the line by an improving horse from a top yard.

Run the race again, with a proper experience jockey on the second string and not the trainers son, and SYT would win.

jan vermeer missed the break, i dont think o'brien jnr can be blamed for that.

Agree Sint - not spot on for the Prince of Wales? What is the POW a prep for exactly? Not telling punters in advance he was not spot on? His wife (I think) tweeting that he'd worked like pegasus? I think the true picture is as Sint describes, and clutching onto another narrative is a bit desperate - He was keen, got messed around with when the pacemaker flew past, and got nutted on the line by an improving horse from a top yard.

Why can't people just accept the idea that Rewilding might be a better horse?

Jair - you may be right, I am just trying to point out the rank stupidity of O'Briens's position before the race and after the race.

Nothing to do with tactics, nothing to do with fitness. The horse was totally unproven in this country and was a ridiculous price caused only by the hype coming from the trainer which so many believed.

He has still run a hell of a race and is still a hell of a horse - just not the superstar that AOB had us believing he was.

Like Zoffany yesterday Rewilding benefited from being held up at the back of an extremely strong pace. SYT didn't go as early as Frankel but suffered the same problems in the final furlong. In a strongly run contest the horse that runs the most evenly paced race always wins - unless there's a freak like Frankel in it.

OK fair do's. Was the time quick ?

I just think if the race was run again over 10f you might see a different result. Only by a margin, mind you, as Rewilding is clearly top class and they have always rated him since they got him from Fabres.

On a line through Rewilding ... Workforce would smash him 10 lengths

There was a massive sting in the tail for Frankie Dettori as he picked up a nine-day suspension for using his whip with excessive frequency on Rewilding in the Prince Of Wales' Stakes at Royal Ascot.

The stewards found the Italian hit the winner 24 times inside the final two furlongs and he will now be sidelined from June 29-July 7 - he misses the Coral-Eclipse at Sandown and the first day of the July meeting at Newmarket.

It is the second lengthy ban incurred by Dettori in the space of a few weeks after he was suspended for 10 days for not riding out to the line on Blue Bunting in the Oaks at Epsom, being narrowly denied third place as a result.

Rewilding's Voltigeur win was also coming off a fast pace - seems to be what the horse wants.

I'm back for a further post mortem on this, forum member SoYouThink thinks O'Brien is a superior trainer to Bart Cummings, not a hope in hell my friend, this debacle today just confirms this as fact.

12 Melbourne Cups make Bart Cummings a Legend in the truest sense of the word, you wont find people bagging out Bart Cummings like i am with O'Brien for mouthing off complete BS for weeks/months after winning two grade F Irish races.

Just wouldn't happen, O'brien lives in fairy land, Bart lives in the real world with results to back him up not future BS predictions sprouted daily.

I was actually receiving Google alerts on So You think for two months which is why i have the evidence of this garbage O'Brien sprouts on about daily, sometimes three or four times a day i get these ridiculous emails with O'Brien talking complete $hit.

The reason i started this thread, yesterday well before the race was that i was completely fed up with constant stream of crap spewing from this mans mouth as this race approached, enough was enough.

Im on record already on this forum saying the risk of these crap races leading up was at risk of making SYT soft under a real test, so i feel vindicated given what O'Brien said today.

I hope he learns something from this experience and pulls his fuc$ing head in.

Luckily im also on record as having greened up on this race so im not even that angry but some Aussie put 200k on him today from what i heard, if i was him id be realy pi$$ed!

top ten o brien horses (flat horses only)

1. yeats
2. dylan thomas
3. galileo
4. george washington
5. rock of gibraltar
6. giants causeway
7. henry the navigator
8. hawk wing
9. alexandrova
10. high chapparal

top ten overhyped o brien horses

1. so you think
2. star spangled banner
3. steinbeck
4. st nicholas abbey
5. fame and glory
6. haradasun
7. rip van winkle
8. recital
9. hold that tiger
10.jan vermeer

High Chapparal should be in the top 2 or 3 for me.

Force, Oz sprinters may be amongst the best in the world but if My Kingdom Of Fife and Glass Harmonium are competitive in group one and two races beating Shoot Out and Ginga Dude who have form with SYT then your middle distance form wouldnt make your osses 4/11 in group Ones at Royal Ascot

Just got one of those Google Alerts im talking about , looks liek its back to reality,

Trainer O'Brien takes blame after Stakes defeat at Ascot
Bangkok Post
Trainer Aidan O'Brien took the blame after So You Think was beaten in the Prince Of Wales's Stakes by Godolphin's Rewilding at Royal Ascot on Wednesday. ...

I am saying O'Brien is a superior horse handler to Cummings FM. PR wise APOB would only get a 2/10 but we all know part of his job is to say things like he says. I am sconvinced that it is with great reluctance he makes these type of comments. By the way, I know there is not a person in the whole of Australia who will agree with my first sentence either.

Sint - you could have a point about tactics. However, my belief is that Aidan tried to nick this race whilst leaving something to work on for future races. It was a risk, and ultimately, it didn't pay off. But only just will it go down as a fail. I think people have interpretated Aidan's comments wrong as well. This was not a prep for something else, and the horse was fit - people should not think otherwise as I don't think reference was made to those kind of things. Remember the horse's ultimate target is going to be the Classic or the Arc - and that is when you want to peak. You most certainly don't want to peak in June. Magnier said the exact same thing after the Curragh. We can take it that we will see a much better horse in the Champion Stakes.

Rewilding is much improved as well. Congrats to Godolphin and Frankie. They strike when you least expect it.

Anyone who thinks SYT wasn't A1 today needs to think again imo.

So the Aussie view is that the trainer messed it up?

I say his record says that he's a 126-128 horse and that's what he's run today, if not better. Rewilding's record off a break since joining his current trainer? 1111 and he's clearly improved over the winter.

So You Think is clearly top class but top class and beating up Aussie middle-distancers and top class and beating European middle-distancers are different things.  He might even be the second best 1m 2f horse in Europe and there's no shame in that.

Seems Aidan did say he hadn't him fit enough.

Hmm I wonder what he means by this.

The way he ran I think the horse was fit. How fit is 'fit enough' then?

I guess he kind of means he hadn't got him in peak physical condition. Which is what I was saying earlier.

Crux of my argument is that he will improve from today, although by how much I don't know. Rewilding is clearly very good too and they pulled a decent way clear of the rest.

A few points to make on all the above:

Ok so I'm no fan of AOB's PR technique but Force Majeur lets face it Bart has been coming out with some sh1te himself in the last few weeks so your hardly in a position to talk about that. Besides the PR stuff had no bearing on today's result.

As for all this "he wasnt fit" rubbish, he's had 2 races and Maureen was tweeting about how he left his work companion 15 lengths behind the other day. Now he needed the run. He might well improve but Rewilding is far less exposed than he is and is STILL improving and there is a fair chance he is not the best middle distance horse in Europe anyway.

Ultimately today SYT was outstayed by a horse that gets a mile and a half on his head and who had the race set up perfectly for him. It was no disgrace to be beaten but, as stated above, beating Oz middle distance horses and beating European ones are very different things. I would not be at all surprised to see him win another Group 1 again this year, perhaps the Irish Champion where it often cuts up, but I think he may struggle against the very best.

Aiden O'Brien has went from a quiet unassuming guy to believing the hype and mythical status that the media and sycophantic public adorned on him, he would afterall be living in the shadow of a guy called Vincent when he took over the reins, and yet has imo become totally possessed in his quest to be talked about in the same terms or if he had his way on superior terms than his great predecessor.
Aiden sorry to say but you don't even come close, in fact Vincent is probably overrated too but at least he was the one who built the empire you now reap the benefits of!. The fact is any half decent trainer can train good horses, no point in me telling you to not lose the run of yourself because you already have, those pictures of you and your unfortunate children with jockeys in tow walking up the centre of various racecourses with the darkest of dark shades on tells me you're probably not the full shilling these days??.

"those pictures of you and your unfortunate children with jockeys in tow walking up the centre of various racecourses with the darkest of dark shades on tells me you're probably not the full shilling these days??. "

He's a good trainer. I can't judge trainers against others as they have different horses and use different techniques and methods. The excuses are tiresome and skimming past valuable answers are no use for race fans. However i wouldn't really question his record or ability as a trainer. I just wish he's stop the antagonism. People ain't daft and know if his horses are good or not.

Nobody is questioning that he's a good trainer graeme83, just that there does seem to be some sort of mentality out there that only Aiden could have won all those group one races, we all know he'll lose more group one races than he'll ever win, you know why? because the horse wins a race not a trainer, if the horse is slow, its goddamn slow!, no trainer in the world can make it go any faster, but for some reason we have in horse racing fans psyche that somehow Henry, Michael and Aiden are after performing some sort of act of god because a bloody well bred horse can actually run faster than the rest?.

He's a good trainer alright but he's also an employee and when a horse that's cost untold millions loses one of the races it's supposed to win, someone has to take the rap.  With breeding considerations abound, it sure ain't gonna be the horse.

Any different on the other side?

No it's not, Dettori was extremely gracious in victory and thanked Sheikh Mohammed and could Al Zarooni take any credit?  Certainly not!  He graciously thanked the Sheikh for his knowledge and the opportunity to train the horse!

Basically at this level, when you win it's thanks to the owner and the horse and when you lose it's the jockey or the trainer's fault.

Hilarious really

And as for Tom Queally, when you win it's the jockey's fault!

that was a bad ride though Jair tbf

16 posts since I last logged on and not one mention of Dettori whipping the bejesus out of Rewilding.

Lol Silvergreaser.

No comments about the ex Stoute listed G3 runners doing well at the top level out in oz???

You have the best sprinters, be wise enough to admit you dont rule at all disatnces

"No comments about the ex Stoute listed G3 runners doing well at the top level out in oz???"

Brisbane winter is a long long way from the top level in Aus.

Brisbane racing is rubbish, Glass Harmonium will struggle to make the frame in when he gets down to Melbourne in the spring....

Brisbane would be to Melbourne racing what Italy is to England, send ol' Campagnologist over there for a cheap CV filler.

Aidans not getting a good wrap over here in Aus today.

Anyway plans for the next race with SYT me thinks.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/superracing/aidan-obriens-crazy-for-so-you-think/story-fn67r1j3-1226073892021

"But we haven't stepped up his work because we feel he is doing it comfortably and doing it within himself. We are very happy with how he is going at the moment.

"As I said, we haven't done that much with him in training because we feel he is such a natural horse.

"We are just hoping we have done enough with him for Royal Ascot. I'm confident we have."

I recall reading this a few days ago and for a fleeting moment I thought it might be a problem, but then I thought nah. Not even sure it's worth noting this - although it does show that he had, albeit very small, misgivings about the light prep.

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FYI this is from Paul Hanagans blog, fwiw.

Like all the jocks not riding in the Prince of Wales's Stakes I was glued to the TV in the changing room.

I had a good look at them going down and although I had been very impressed by So You Think in his previous races he didn’t look a particularly nice ride going to post and in the race proper he always seemed to be doing too much and despite all Ryan did, the choke was permanently out.

No matter how good a horse is — and you can’t do what that horse has done and not be — it’s impossible to expend the amount of energy that he did. In my opinion if he’d relaxed he’d have won.

Having said all that, he very nearly got away with it and it took a brilliant ride from Frankie to take the race aboard Rewilding.

But there was a serious sting in the stewards room afterwards when he was given a nine day suspension for frequent use of the whip.

It’s a wake up call for all of us. If we break the rules then we can expect to get a hefty ban and make no mistake, this will be a very costly one for Frankie because it knocks him out of the Eclipse meeting at Sandown and comes on top of the suspension he got for easing down at Epsom which means he misses the end of Ascot.

But we don’t have an excuse because we all know that the whip is now a very sensitive subject — there was a feature on it on BBC News on Tuesday night — and the image of racing has got to be protected.

We are all walking a very  fine line and we’ve got to do our best not to step off it. The message to us is very clear.

Brisbane racing is rubbish, Glass Harmonium will struggle to make the frame in when he gets down to Melbourne in the spring....


They still beat the same horses(Shoot Out ans Ginga Dude) that SYT beat last year and id assure you that they wouldnt have been 4/11 for a race at RA

Ginga Dude is a wet tracker for NZ who has not been in Brisbane at all??

Shoot Out is running lengths below his best as it appears a very heavy schedule has caught up with him. He has been around that many times he is getting dizzy...

So You Think dominated in slowly run WFA races in Australia and the fools in the UK decided to put a pace maker in the race, which in the end disadvantages him and aids the backmarkers, namely Rewilding.
Ridiculous use of a pacemaker and the same almost happened with Frankel, the pacemaker breaks the field up and collapses before the turn and these two horses are left in front way too far out.
Ridiculous.