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Chad Collins number wan
21 Mar 11 14:01
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Folks

From perusing here and elsewhere it looks like there's a good few of you who have shares in or own horses outright.  I am thinking about trying to get a syndicate of friends and family together with a view to buying a jumping prospect. 

Having never done this before have no idea where to start.  Was thinking I might join a syndicate first for a while to give me an idea of what's involved etc, before trying to branch out on my own.  Anyone have any ideas on which syndicates/racing clubs might be best?

Also, cost-wise the BHA website has some very broad general costings, but what sort of ballpark am I looking at to buy a decent jumper in terms of initial outlay and regular fees etc?
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Report EastLower Gooner March 21, 2011 1:58 PM GMT
some excellent value syndicates abroad too.

dont have to restrict yourself to the uk.

got shares in 3 lovely ones over in New York. one of them just shipped down to Laurel for trackwork. way cheaper than over here, excellent prize money and my shares cover all the revenue even if they go to stud.
Report boy wonder 07 March 21, 2011 4:09 PM GMT
i have been involved with david parry racing for 4 years horses trained by ferdy murphy great well run syndicates no hidden extras expense wise have a look on his website for details
Report San Quentin March 21, 2011 5:28 PM GMT
Any more details EastLower Gooner
Report EastLower Gooner March 21, 2011 5:58 PM GMT
The one I'm in is run by my close friend in New York.

Couldnt afford to do it properly here so when the chance came up to get shares cheaply in 3 stateside with a mate I went for it.

But there are loads of nice syndicates over there....

www.dreamteamracingstable.com is pretty top notch. They've got some nice horsies.
Report rhinestone March 21, 2011 6:59 PM GMT
ELG - do you get over to watch em much?
Report EastLower Gooner March 21, 2011 7:49 PM GMT
Not as yet....hopefully I can get over sometime. Get all the photos, videos and updates of them...from being on the farm in North Carolina to at the racetrack.
Report unclepuncle March 21, 2011 7:50 PM GMT
There is a very famous saying about racehorse ownership:

'The only way to make a small fotrune from racehorse ownership is to start with a big one'Laugh

Can't think of anything else to addCry
Report Chad Collins number wan March 22, 2011 11:04 AM GMT
Cheers lads - am well aware this will not be a money making enterprise!
Report Bobby Dazzler March 22, 2011 1:06 PM GMT
Hi Chad, If you want any advice or assistance I am happy to help if I can - drop me a line at ian@ourfriendsinthenorth.com
Report Steamship March 22, 2011 3:16 PM GMT
Chad I am also thinking of starting a syndicate. 20 people put 1 or2 grand in and £100 per month should cover everything. Was looking at Malton as I'm in East Yorks. Bobby would you mind if I emailed you sometime about how easy or difficult it is?
Report Bobby Dazzler March 22, 2011 6:51 PM GMT
No problem Steamship - look forward to hearing from you.
Report westo97. March 22, 2011 8:10 PM GMT
I joined a syndicate back in September,not fully experienced it as yet as I have a share in a 2yo who hope to have on the track in next month or so.

We have it with John Quinn and been up to the yard on a couple of occasions to see the horse work. Its now starting to get exciting as race day not far away,everyone in the group seems a friendly bunch and im expecting a fun summer ahead regardless of the horse's ability.

Go for it
Report Oasisdreamer March 22, 2011 10:07 PM GMT
Chad,
Some pointers based on my own experience.......

Is a jumper set in stone or would you consider a flat horse?  Reason I ask is that jumpers can be more injury prone >> time off and vets bills.  Also I find it easier to get to the flat meetings as weather better in summer and less abandonments.  You can plan that bit better I feel.

It's a good idea to get involved with a syndicate with a proven track record first of all.  However you'll pay a premium vs doing it diy.

Get a written agreement in place from the outset.  When money is involved you want the terms of the agreement clear to all involved.

If you go it alone have one or two individuals steering the ship.  Too many chiefs and it can become chaotic!

Decide on whether you want to take a punt on a young horse with no form in the book OR go for an older horse who's shown some signs of ability and could improve with the right trainer.
Report Chad Collins number wan March 22, 2011 10:57 PM GMT
thanks again chaps - Bobby will message in the next few days
Report Steamship March 23, 2011 10:57 AM GMT
westo is yours the Windsor Knot colt? I had a look myself is the syndicate full?
Report westo97. March 23, 2011 6:48 PM GMT
Hi Steam - Yes it is the Windsor Kot colt. I think it is full but not 100% sure to be honest. I can message you details of contact if you want
Report westo97. March 23, 2011 6:50 PM GMT
Steam - Your idea was exactly what I was looking for. Keep in touch or let me know if you want some assistance getting things moving,if you go ahead with the idea.
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