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1 214-P4 Bygones Of Brid43 8 11-10 Karen McLintock
2 42241- Newmill346 13 11-4 James Daniel Dullea
3 62-513 Alpine Eagle119 7 11-2 Mrs John Harrington
4 8-141F Slieveardagh115 7 11-2 E J O´Grady
5 022PP8 Fosters Cross56 9 11-1 Thomas Mullins
6 1-4031 New Phase56 7 11-1 D K Weld
7 1V947- Zanir274 7 11-1 T R George
8 32164 Grey Soldier98 6 11-0 Gordon Elliott
9 0-U211 Songe64 7 11-0 C E Longsdon
10 121/1- Knocknabooly273 12 10-13 W P Mullins
11 144-22 Son Amix46 5 10-12 Thomas Cooper
12 FF1F7- Zaarito264 9 10-12 C A Murphy
13 31211- Dorset Square260 7 10-11 W P Mullins
14 1F1F-2 Sweet My Lord56 5 10-11 W P Mullins
15 0171-3 Un Hinged251 11 10-10 John J Coleman
16 4136-9 Whodoyouthink71 6 10-10 Oliver McKiernan
17 5068-3 Carthalawn63 10 10-9 Gordon Elliott
18 2718-9 Majaales92 8 10-9 T R George
19 116622 Hazeymm63 8 10-8 E J O´Grady
20 410-21 Lancetto84 6 10-8 James J Hartnett
21 135210 St Devote56 6 10-8 Eoin Griffin
22 31222 Casey Top106 8 10-7 Leonard Whitmore
23 7013-F Day Of Destiny64 6 10-7 P J Colville
24 21 Dilshaan´s Prize117 7 10-7 Noel Meade
25 0602-0 Vital Plot56 7 10-6 S Weld
26 UF8642 Wilde Wit Pleasure52 8 10-6 Sean O O´Brien
27 P/114- Call The Police399 8 10-5 W P Mullins
28 032-54 Doctor Deejay64 5 10-5 W P Mullins
29 P-5508 Northern Alliance29 10 10-5 A J Martin
30 127-2F See U Bob64 8 10-5 Paul Nolan
31 13- Final Approach105F 5 10-3 W P Mullins
32 26-U57 Prince Of Fire46 6 10-3 C F Swan
33 7418-P Some Slam36F 6 10-2 David Marnane
34 721- Capellanus70F 5 10-1 E J O´Grady
35 135- Mosstown379 5 10-1 Mrs John Harrington
36 212-1 Pires32F 7 10-1 A J Martin
37 5-1155 Island Oscar56 7 9-13 Paul A Roche
38 61-117 Rock County56 7 9-13 Sabrina J Harty
39 220-27 Asigh Pearl64 7 9-12 Noel Meade
40 4F-021 Belord63 8 9-12 John J Walsh
41 0100-1 Montan64 7 9-11 A J Martin
42 32-301 Shamiran57 6 9-11 S T Nolan
43 146-P8 Mr Clyde28 8 9-9 Patrick J Flynn
44 U1-352 Tijuana Dancer56 7 9-9 A J Martin
45 U225-3 Marlay Park45 8 9-8 Ms Margaret Mullins
46 7168-4 Mubrook46 6 9-8 E J O´Grady
47 123-1F Prima Vista63 6 9-6 Noel Meade
48 B64528 Mutadarek56 10 9-4 Ms Joanna Morgan
2 42241- Newmill346 13 11-4 James Daniel Dullea
3 62-513 Alpine Eagle119 7 11-2 Mrs John Harrington
4 8-141F Slieveardagh115 7 11-2 E J O´Grady
5 022PP8 Fosters Cross56 9 11-1 Thomas Mullins
6 1-4031 New Phase56 7 11-1 D K Weld
7 1V947- Zanir274 7 11-1 T R George
8 32164 Grey Soldier98 6 11-0 Gordon Elliott
9 0-U211 Songe64 7 11-0 C E Longsdon
10 121/1- Knocknabooly273 12 10-13 W P Mullins
11 144-22 Son Amix46 5 10-12 Thomas Cooper
12 FF1F7- Zaarito264 9 10-12 C A Murphy
13 31211- Dorset Square260 7 10-11 W P Mullins
14 1F1F-2 Sweet My Lord56 5 10-11 W P Mullins
15 0171-3 Un Hinged251 11 10-10 John J Coleman
16 4136-9 Whodoyouthink71 6 10-10 Oliver McKiernan
17 5068-3 Carthalawn63 10 10-9 Gordon Elliott
18 2718-9 Majaales92 8 10-9 T R George
19 116622 Hazeymm63 8 10-8 E J O´Grady
20 410-21 Lancetto84 6 10-8 James J Hartnett
21 135210 St Devote56 6 10-8 Eoin Griffin
22 31222 Casey Top106 8 10-7 Leonard Whitmore
23 7013-F Day Of Destiny64 6 10-7 P J Colville
24 21 Dilshaan´s Prize117 7 10-7 Noel Meade
25 0602-0 Vital Plot56 7 10-6 S Weld
26 UF8642 Wilde Wit Pleasure52 8 10-6 Sean O O´Brien
27 P/114- Call The Police399 8 10-5 W P Mullins
28 032-54 Doctor Deejay64 5 10-5 W P Mullins
29 P-5508 Northern Alliance29 10 10-5 A J Martin
30 127-2F See U Bob64 8 10-5 Paul Nolan
31 13- Final Approach105F 5 10-3 W P Mullins
32 26-U57 Prince Of Fire46 6 10-3 C F Swan
33 7418-P Some Slam36F 6 10-2 David Marnane
34 721- Capellanus70F 5 10-1 E J O´Grady
35 135- Mosstown379 5 10-1 Mrs John Harrington
36 212-1 Pires32F 7 10-1 A J Martin
37 5-1155 Island Oscar56 7 9-13 Paul A Roche
38 61-117 Rock County56 7 9-13 Sabrina J Harty
39 220-27 Asigh Pearl64 7 9-12 Noel Meade
40 4F-021 Belord63 8 9-12 John J Walsh
41 0100-1 Montan64 7 9-11 A J Martin
42 32-301 Shamiran57 6 9-11 S T Nolan
43 146-P8 Mr Clyde28 8 9-9 Patrick J Flynn
44 U1-352 Tijuana Dancer56 7 9-9 A J Martin
45 U225-3 Marlay Park45 8 9-8 Ms Margaret Mullins
46 7168-4 Mubrook46 6 9-8 E J O´Grady
47 123-1F Prima Vista63 6 9-6 Noel Meade
48 B64528 Mutadarek56 10 9-4 Ms Joanna Morgan
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I thought Prima Vista was very impressive lto , no betting yet but will be close to favouritism imo. And will be interesting to see what the handicapper says as the horse that finished 2nd, Tijuana Dancer, didn't get the best of rides imo and will be on better terms.
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don't think i've ever come close to finding the winner of this race, 30 runners who've all been plotted up for it
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PRIMA VISTA has been installed as the 5-1 favourite with Paddy Power for Sunday's MCR Hurdle, formerly run as the Pierse Hurdle, after 29 entries remained at Tuesday's forfeit stage.
The Noel Meade-trained Prima Vista was raised 15lb for his facile win at Leopardstown last month and is likely to be joined inthe €100,000 contest by stablemate Asigh Pearl, raised 6lb for beating top-rated Fosters Cross by two lengths at Fairyhouse in December. Wexford trainer Len Whitmore, who has just four horses in his care, is hoping that 20-1 chance Casey Top can register a rare big-race win for the yard. The former winning Irish pointer won a valuable handicap hurdle at Killarney in July and is reported to be on target for Sunday's race by his trainer. Whitmore said: "He's going to run in the MCR Hurdle and he's had a little bit of a break to freshen him up for his first time back as he was campaigned all summer. "The trip might be a bit short for him which would be my concern as he would be better at two and a half miles, but it's a good old pot and we'll take our chance." Tony Martin, who won the race with the well-backed Xenophon in 2003, has three remaining - Montan, Northern Alliance, Tijuana Dancer - while Dermot Weld, successful with Archive Footage in 1999, is represented by New Phase. Ireland's champion trainer Willie Mullins won this race with Adamant Approach in 2002 and he has left in Call The Police, Doctor Deejay and Final Approach. The race failed to attract a sole British-trained entry as it was race was whittled down from the original entry list of 48, while the going at Leopardstown was described as soft on Tuesday. |
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Does 15lbs not turnaround the form with Tijuana Dancer?
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He did win very easily and Meade said in the Weekender before Christmas that he needed the horse to go up in the weights to get in. I'd be fairly sure he's still well handicapped.
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A few of the trends would be against Prima Vista, Meade is 0-0-20 with his runners in last 10 years and only 1 of the 26 horses to carry a penalty in this have made the places (none won).
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Fair points but I don't know if he's carrying a penalty or has been reassessed since his win (haven't looked at the cards and can't see him being much shorter on the day).
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No point in backing him at the current prices.
I said after his win i'd back him but only if It was around 10/1. Perhaps that was wishful thinking, but not interested at 5/1. Agree with Tucho, Tijuana Dancer with the turnaround is the one for, not sure he had the best of rides lto but i'll wait until race day before deciding. |
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Prince Of Fire holds a fair amount of appeal for me at 20/1
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Date Joined: 06 Apr 06 Add contact | Send message When: 04 Jan 11 23:33 A few of the trends would be against Prima Vista, Meade is 0-0-20 with his runners in last 10 years and only 1 of the 26 horses to carry a penalty in this have made the places (none won). Where did you see that stat on horses carrying penalties? |
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Weight (Win-Place-Runners)
Horses carrying 10-12 or more: 1-11-72 Horses carrying 10-11 or less: 9-19-190 Horses carrying 10-11 or less are favoured, especially in softer ground. Top Weight: 07009402000 (0-2-11) Horses carrying a penalty (0-1-26) have a particularly bad record, gaining just one place from 26 representatives, 13 of which were sent off 12/1 or shorter. |
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give a small chance to mosstown. looks like its had problems,
coming back gradually. trainer respected, and looked like a classy stayer last year. 33/1 would be fair price, double that on bf. |
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Call The Cops
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that penalty stat was from the trends on Racecaller.com, think it's about right having looked at past resutls
Age (Win-Place-Runners) 5yo: 1-5-65 6yo: 3-15-69 7yo: 3-5-64 8yo: 3-3-36 9yo: 0-1-17 10yo+: 0-1-11 9 of 10 winners were aged 6 to 8, though they did make up approximately 64.5% of the total runners. Weight (Win-Place-Runners) Horses carrying 10-12 or more: 1-11-72 Horses carrying 10-11 or less: 9-19-190 Horses carrying 10-11 or less are favoured, especially in softer ground. Top Weight: 07009402000 (0-2-11) Horses carrying a penalty (0-1-26) have a particularly bad record, gaining just one place from 26 representatives, 13 of which were sent off 12/1 or shorter. Official Ratings Horses rated 127 or higher: 0-4-33 Horses rated 116 to 126: 7-17-125 Horses rated 115 or lower: 3-9-104 7 of 10 winners were officially rated between 116 and 126 & they have filled 24 of 40 places (including 14 of 20 places in past 5 years) Recent/Past Form 10 of 10 winners won or placed last time out 9 of 10 winners posted their highest RPR in the last year on their last start (exception posted highest RPR on penultimate start) 7 of 10 winners had run in the past 35 days 10 of 10 winners had run no more than 4 times that season 10 of 10 winners had run in 3 to 9 hurdles 10 of 10 winners had run in no more than 5 handicap hurdles 8 of 10 winners had yet to win a handicap hurdle 10 of 10 winners were second season hurdlers Other Races Ladbrokes.com H'cap Hurdle winner (Un Hinged): 005F (0-0-4) Bar One Racing H'cap Hurdle winner (Assigh Pearl): 85050 (0-0-5) Star Best For Racing H’cap Hurdle winner (Prima Vista): 006070 (0-0-6) 4 of 10 winners were placed at Leopardstown Christmas meeting No winner of this race had previously won a h'cap hurdle worth 10K+. Running Style 8 of 10 winners raced in mid-division or tracked the leaders In general it is not easy to come from too far back in this race and being situated in the front 7 or 8 is highly preferable. Trainers Unsurprisingly no trainer has been able to dominate this race. Willie Mullins (1-5-28) trained 3 of the first 4 home last year. Tony Martin (1-1-5) and Jessica Harrington (1-1-11) have both saddled the winner and a placed finisher in past decade. Noel Meade (0-0-20) and Eddie O’Grady (0-0-12) have failed to train a placed finisher in this from their combined 32 runners in the last 10 years. Price 9 of 10 winners were priced between 5/1 and 16/1 The one big shock in this race was Penny’s Bill at 50/1 in 2009, when a slightly fortuitous winner over the favourite Psycho in 2nd. Favourites (3-1-14) have gained 3 wins in the past decade, giving a level stakes profit of 6.00. Summary: Based on the trends from the past 10 years you are looking for a horse: Aged 6 to 8 Placed last time out (ideally at Leopardstown Christmas meeting) Posted their highest RPR Run no more than 4 times this season Run 3 to 9 times over hurdles Run in 5 or fewer handicap hurdles (winning no more than 1) Second season hurdler Carrying less than 10-12 Officially rated 116 to 126 Tends to races prominently Trained by Tony Martin or Willie Mullins Priced 16/1 or shorter |
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The ****.com Hurdle (Extended Handicap Hurdle - Rated 0-145) (Grade B) Guaranteed value of €100,000 (Generously sponsored by ****) Of which the second will receive €20,000, the third €10,000 and the fourth €4,000, the fifth €3,000 and the sixth €2,000 An extended handicap hurdle for four yrs old and upwards rated 0-145 About two miles €400 to enter, €600 extra if forfeit not declared by 23rd January Penalties - Winner of a hurdle race or hurdle races after calculation of the handicap shall carry any penalty or penalties which may be allotted by the Handicapper. Alternative Handicap ****.com will pay a €100,000 bonus to any horse who wins this race and a race at the 2012 Cheltenham Festival. The bonus to be payable to the owner in whose name the horse runs when winning at the 2012 Cheltenham Festival. To Close 4th January Where are the entries HRI ffs |
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* Spoilsports
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Heard that the entries are being revealed tomorrow
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Any news/entries yet .....
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Spoilesports Com Hurdle - 3.05pm in Leopardstown 28-01-[b]2012[/b]
Reizovic (6) , Scottish Boogie (7) , Askthemaster (12) , Make A Track (14) , Olofi (14) , Cass Bligh (16) , Citizenship (16) , Bay Of Kotor (20) , Blazing Tempo (20) , Dul Ar An Ol (20) , First In The Queue (20) , Leah Claire (20) , Our Monty (20) , Plan A (20) , Quiscover Fontaine (20) , Sailors Warn (20) , Strain Of Fame (20) , Temlett (20) , Baby Whizz (25) , Il Fenomeno (25) - Others 25 or more Will be 4/1fav on the day ! (and hopefully is beaten by Citizenship - similiar to O'Gee's summer antics with The Real Article in Galway !  )1 P564- Karabak 9, 11-12 (29) (John P McManus) Rated 143 Edward P Harty 2 11-21- Staying Article 7, 11-8 (57) (Thomas Barr) Rated 139 E J O'Grady 3 5113- Ubi Ace 6, 11-8 (29) (N J Maher) Rated 139 Tim Walford 4 1227- Sailors Warn 5, 11-7 (43) (Patrick Wilmott) Rated 140 E J O'Grady 5 0014- Sweet My Lord 6, 11-6 (31) (Aiden Devaney) Rated 137 W P Mullins 6 38-2F- Olofi 6, 11-5 (29) (Channing,Roberts,McNeill Famil) Rated 136 Tom George 7 6114- Formidableopponent 5, 11-4 (33) (John P McManus) Rated 137 Noel Meade 8 30F1- Cass Bligh 8, 11-3 (33) (Mrs P.Murtagh,P Hegarty,A.Murray&T.Brewster) Rated 134 Adrian Murray 9 4115- Il Fenomeno 6, 11-1 (56) (Gigginstown House Stud) Rated 132 Noel Meade 10 11P2- Plan A 5, 11-1 (34) (Liam Mulryan) Rated 134 Gordon Elliott 11 4311- Blazing Tempo 8, 11-0 (43) (Mrs S Ricci) Rated 131 W P Mullins 12 3025- First In The Queue 5, 10-13 (29) (Liam Breslin) Rated 132 Nicky Henderson 13 0346- Tawaagg 8, 10-12 (39) (DD Racing Syndicate) Rated 129 W P Mullins 14 214-5 Flycorn 6, 10-11 (21) (J J Devlin) Rated 128 T Hogan 15 62R-2 Little Green 5, 10-11 (27) (Bannermen Syndicate) Rated 130 E McNamara 16 UF03- Mister Carter 5, 10-11 (34) (David Slater) Rated 130 T Stack 17 1231- Make A Track 6, 10-10 (45) (Gigginstown House Stud) Rated 127 C F Swan 18 F72-5- Zaarito 10, 10-10 (89) (Victoria Syndicate) Rated 127 C A Murphy 19 F491- Quiscover Fontaine 8, 10-9 (32) (John P McManus) Rated 126 W P Mullins 20 554-3 Moville 7, 10-7 (21) (John P McManus) Rated 124 Martin Brassil 21 7484- Baracas 7, 10-6 (92) (Mrs Martina Griffin) Rated 123 Eoin Griffin 22 3117- Madame Mado 8, 10-6 (31) (Mrs Ethna O'Toole) Rated 123 William P Murphy 23 1122- Noras Fancy 6, 10-6 (38) (Michael Dixon) Rated 123 James Joseph Mangan 24 8082- Pires 8, 10-6 (32) (Mrs E A Lawlor) Rated 123 A J Martin 25 1673- What A Charm 5, 10-6 (31) (C Jones) Rated 125 A L T Moore 26 2145- Reizovic 7, 10-5 (33) (John P McManus) Rated 122 John E Kiely 27 33U3- Wilde Wit Pleasure 9, 10-5 (32) (Sean O O'Brien) Rated 122 Sean O O'Brien 28 3114- Dul Ar An Ol 11, 10-4 (32) (Newlands Racing Club) Rated 121 John C McConnell 29 2133- Miss Nomer 5, 10-4 (38) (Star Syndicate) Rated 123 E J O'Grady 30 2U01- Askthemaster 12, 10-3 (34) (Miss Carrolle Wall) Rated 120 Robert Tyner 31 3763- Scottish Boogie 5, 10-3 (33) (Patrick Wilmott & Ms C Cleary) Rated 122 C Byrnes 32 4655- Beau Michael 8, 10-2 (32) (Total Recall Racing Club) Rated 119 Adrian Mc****ss 33 11-04- Cothrom Na Feinne 7, 10-2 (33) (Mrs J S Bolger) Rated 119 Desmond McDonogh 34 44P0- Rory Anna 6, 10-2 (70) (Mrs W M Fitzpatrick) Rated 119 John J Walsh 35 1302- Citizenship 6, 10-1 (33) (Fresh By Nature Syndicate) Rated 118 Mrs John Harrington 36 5527- Peak Raider 8, 10-1 (34) (Swings & Roundabouts Syndicate) Rated 118 Thomas Carberry 37 7741- Rocky Wednesday 5, 10-1 (34) (Gigginstown House Stud) Rated 120 Gordon Elliott 38 2111- Bay Of Kotor 6, 10-0 (34) (Breen White) Rated 117 J Larkin 39 3111/ Our Monty 9, 10-0 (805) (Colland Sand & Gravel Limited) Rated 117 W P Mullins 40 3463- Silver Shuffle 5, 9-12 (34) (Mrs Beverley Westermann) Rated 117 J G Coogan 41 3013- Leah Claire 6, 9-11 (32) (F A McNulty) Rated 114 Matthieu Palussiere 42 699/1- Temlett 8, 9-11 (315) (J Chambers) Rated 114 Pat Murphy 43 8717- Munsaab 6, 9-8 (32) (B G Acheson) Rated 111 J Motherway 44 3306- Strain Of Fame 6, 9-7 (33) (T I Naughton) Rated 110 W P Mullins 45 0217- Baby Whizz 6, 9-6 (33) (John P McManus) Rated 109 Thomas Mullins 46 3073- Steel Park 8, 9-5 (34) (Mrs Brenda Byrne) Rated 108 Sean Byrne 47 4B7/1 Vast Consumption 9, 9-4 (28) (Michael F O'Neill) Rated 107 W P Mullins |
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Reizovic ruled out by John Kiely.
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