The Edward O'Grady wins another Paddy Power Gold Cup thread

He's put Irish horses up by any amount he likes in the past, could easily have looked how close he got to Weapons and Pandorama at Leopardstown and whack him up half a stone.

GE ran the race of his life at the festival and if he's improved as much as the Pipe camp clearly believe he has, then will take the world of beating. Catch Me running off 10-5 has to be the value in the race however. If its a match between the two then CM every time for me.

well fancied in the ante-post betting market now......i'm on at 19.5.....lets hope for a big run.....hope the blow out he had did him good .....thought he might have drifted after the run the fact he is still fancied in the betting bodes well.....lets hope he is up to the job think this years renewal is the strongest for 5years

Travelled over well too (will miss all the stormy seas !)

And all the rain on friday night will be just perfect.

It's clearly not fact, but I do agree with the sentiment.

I know it's not a fact, but I'm putting my balls on the line, leaving myself open to ridicule is he does win. I am just adamant he is not good enough and will need plenty to blunder away their chances of he is to win.

Oh fair play if you got anything 20/1 and above, place side of that is decent enough. But forms offering 7's with O' Grady far from confident. Madness imo.

I'm all over Poquelin e/w, his consistency, his love of cheltenham and the drying ground all in his favor. Laddies offering 16/1, that is a fantastic price for a horse who's open company form reads 1212U2. Booking of popham to blain 5lbs is good too.

I him've in an e/w double with General Miller too.

I've 3pts on long run antepost. He is the most likely winner imo. Class horse in the race.

I'll have a nibble at Mad Max saturday morning if I can get 10's or better.

interesting, i must admit Poquelin does operate well round cheltenham and popham is well worth his claim. I actually prefer the other nicholls horse think the run would have him spot on.

Im a massive fan of General Miller and think he could be EW value for the champion Hurdle but i don't think any of the 150 rated novices from last season will win. Im really sweet on Sure Josie Sure, think she could run to the mid 140s at least.

Oh and yes im on at 20s :)

Do you think P/W reads the betfair forum?

Thats right brookies.

Pretty disappointed, but he came back safe and sound which is the main thing and will live to fight another day. I think he showed he still has some engne, but his jumping is simply not good enough to compete in races like this.

AM said he was meeting fences almost as well as he could and still losing a length every time. He was having to hurry him every time he landed, and that took its toll.

I think chases in Ireland will suit him much better, and I also think he might just be better over hurdles.

Fair play to Abbott. You were spot on.

CVB. Showing your class as usual. A sad little man unfortunately.

If you have ever owned a horse, or could ever own one in the future, I'm sure you'd be disappointed to have one as 'bog average' as him.

you sound quite obnoxious to me CVbyrne, to be perfectly honest.

It's like you want to be right all the time. We all guilty of it when discusiing horses but no need to take this p1ss out of an owner.

I didn't know he was the owner and was certainly not trying to take the p1ss. Understandable his reaction now I know he's the owner. I thought he was just connected/big fan of the horse.

CVB. There were plenty eho (rightly0 said he wouldnt win. The reaosn I mentioned abbott was because, imo, he had the exact reasons why he didnt. He said he wouldnt be suited to the hurly burly of the big fiedl and his jumping wouldnt hold up. Which was the main reason he performed so badly. You and others just said he wasnt good enough. You might think I'm biased and you were right, I think abbott had it spot on.

Had the front 8 or so runners ran at somewhere like Naas, on softer ground and at a more sedate pace, I think he would have fared alot better.

Neill. Everyone felt he had retained his ability, and he travelled very well for a long way. His poor jumping just took its toll, as it would do in a rec of that nature. I dont think EOG's horses are quite at their peak yet, and this was his first proper run of the season. I think he will be spot on next time. I think he will still have a few more good days and can win some valuable prizes, but they are going to be in Ireland. I also think you might be right about hurdles. He's built like a hurdler. It was onle when you saw him alongside some of those horses on saturday that it really hit home.

Cheers Can't, I've always liked the horse and it could be that this experience over fences will make him even tougher when he goes back over smaller obstacles.