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jifftiptop
24 Oct 10 08:59
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Cant believe amount of cynics slagging off Frankel..1 or 2 even saying he WILL get stuffed in guineas...please you guys are really why bookies make so much..you can argue but base your arguments on strong sensible evidence..How can you say he will be stuffed..(you know who you are) god if I was looking for a syndicate to place money on possiblities and probabilities I wouldnt be asking s few on here..surely you cant be making anything out of racing! Then the Dream Ahead camp(moaners) yes he may of got a bit closer but he was flattered by beating SSuit (who didnt turn up)..and tinhorse!..(not good enough)..Now im not saying Frankel wont lose he might!...but its very unlikely at this stage...Il gladly listen chat about training on as a 3 yr old which he may not do..but let the facts speak for themselves...or are we going to talk about ifs and ands?

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By:
flyingbolt
When: 24 Oct 10 09:44
Sounds like you have become an expert in your 5 days on Betfair.
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jifftiptop
When: 24 Oct 10 17:57
Well maybe not expert but dont need barrage of unreasonable bullshit without engaging thought.I mean you sound a clever guy would you take shouting and nonsense from people like those on here or do you actually agree with them  They remind of the  piss head types on the racecourse just out for good time some people on here are like that..I love getting pissed but id try not to make a mockery of myself, as an investor can u really take some of these guys comments seriously id get more sense from the kids playground..nice of you to reply anyway..flying bolt..speak soon
By:
tobermory
When: 24 Oct 10 18:17
.please you guys are really why bookies make so much

people taking short odds about the Classics 6 months before the races are another reason the bookies do ok [;)]
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grendel
When: 24 Oct 10 18:24
To be fair tobermory I don't think many people would advocate backing the horse now for the guineas even if they're big Frankel fans.  Some horses don't need backing with money to appreciate them, Frankel is one of them in my opinion.  There are plenty of other profit making races in the season.
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jifftiptop
When: 24 Oct 10 18:27
Well said Grendel..
By:
cryoftruth
When: 26 Oct 10 17:35
Sort of agree with that. Frankel at 5/4 top price would not be value or not much. However I do think he'll win the guineas, and if allowed he'll win the derby too.
By:
Graeme83
When: 26 Oct 10 17:48
Can you clarify who 'you guys' are, because i don't remember saying anything bad about Frankel.
By:
eric_morris
When: 26 Oct 10 18:49
He is exceptional the like of we see v rarely, just hoping HRAC allows him to run in the Derby so the horse can go down in history as an all-time great rather than just a specialist miler.

His price is irrelevant now frankly as most are on at far better, not much point in picking at the scraps now.
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jifftiptop
When: 27 Oct 10 06:52
its not you then Graeme83....
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cryoftruth
When: 27 Oct 10 18:20
I think backing frankel juts now makes little sense. he will vary a bit throughout the winter and may start to shorten as the trial approaches, but if he trots up as seems very likel]y indeed in the Greenham, he could be very short indeed come gGuineas day and 6/4 would not look so silly then would it.
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Graeme83
When: 27 Oct 10 19:54
Who the heck wants to wait 7 months at that price when you can pick an established horse at that price this weekend or at the Breeders Cup ?.... i can see how something like 7/2 might tempt some folk, but not that price i'm afraid.
By:
2rivets
When: 27 Oct 10 22:04
i watch the king george in my local club every boxing day.every year the same people come up to me and say kautos no chance ive backed such and such.they cant give any logical reason they just know kauto wont win.what they really mean is i cant afford to back kauto at evens so i,ll have my £2 on such and such.thats why these people will be knocking frankel all winter
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Graeme83
When: 27 Oct 10 22:13
^^^^ there's another one making up rubbish. Nobody is knocking the horse. I and some others are pointing out that the price is pointless, which it is. Why take short odds in a race that is 7 months away when you can back a 6/4 short tomorrow ?
By:
pedrobob
When: 27 Oct 10 23:16
Love Frankel to bits.... but 6/4 would be tight about any horse going through the winter in one piece and training on.... let alone winning the Guineas.
So agree, crazy bet. If you can't find another decent 6/4 bet between now and then, probably need to give up?
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Graeme83
When: 27 Oct 10 23:24
Exactly Bob. I want the horse to be great as like everyone else i like to see a good horse - it's a part of the reason we watch racing. However i think too many people around here want to win on a horse as if there's a prize for backing a specific 6/4 shot instead of a 6/4 at Sandown for example. If you didn't take the big prices( like i didn't) you're on to plums and should look somewhere else for 'value'.
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