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Surely this horse is overpriced.....
Firstly, he is very good at Ascot, he won the big Abou Diaby handicap last season over course and distance, after coming second at the royal meeting just two starts before. And we all know it's a horsesforcourses kind of track.
His old trainer Clive Brittain thinks the same....
25Jul09 Ascot ( 7 Gd ,RPR110 )
It was a carefully laid plan. I told the horse to shed a shoe, keep the others waiting and then destroy them! He does like Ascot and he's a 10lb better horse on this racecourse - Clive Brittain
On the bare face of things, his form this season looks dissapointing. However, if you look at his run at Goodwood behind Sea Lord, it was a very good effort, travelling well and was denied at clear run at a vital point. Time before that he ran really well on his first start for Dandy Nicholls at Ascot in the Victoria Cup. Only beaten four lengths.
He did run abismally last time out at York, however, that can happen at York, just look at Forte De Marmite for example.
Has droppped right back to a winning mark on a course he likes over the correct trip. Let's ave it.
Firstly, he is very good at Ascot, he won the big Abou Diaby handicap last season over course and distance, after coming second at the royal meeting just two starts before. And we all know it's a horsesforcourses kind of track.
His old trainer Clive Brittain thinks the same....
25Jul09 Ascot ( 7 Gd ,RPR110 )
It was a carefully laid plan. I told the horse to shed a shoe, keep the others waiting and then destroy them! He does like Ascot and he's a 10lb better horse on this racecourse - Clive Brittain
On the bare face of things, his form this season looks dissapointing. However, if you look at his run at Goodwood behind Sea Lord, it was a very good effort, travelling well and was denied at clear run at a vital point. Time before that he ran really well on his first start for Dandy Nicholls at Ascot in the Victoria Cup. Only beaten four lengths.
He did run abismally last time out at York, however, that can happen at York, just look at Forte De Marmite for example.
Has droppped right back to a winning mark on a course he likes over the correct trip. Let's ave it.
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Has he been wearing headgear Gunner ?
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Wore blinkers for most of his runs last year, can't say i've noticed if he's had them on for Dandy or not sint ...
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will have a quick look now
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didn't have any on last time at York.
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I suggest we all back it and then delete this thread, as I have a feeling that this has been "plotted up".
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I'm on with Bet £3.65
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definitely worth a crack at the price. This is a hugh taylor type selection imo.
reason I asked about the headgear is because inbetween his two Ascot runs last season they took them off and he bombed out. Put them on again and bosh! But i'd forgotten he changed trainers anyway so probably irrelevant as Dandy will have his own ideas. |
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Agree with fluffy
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I agree .
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Looks a very good shout and as stated above we have horse proven on track, over distance, on likely going, placed off higher handicap mark and trainer in form. the icing on the cake for me is that the trainers 2nd / 3rd strings often run well and in some instances win big handicaps as evidenced last Saturday.Draw bias an imponderable but at the price available worth chancing.
Good luck Gunner and all. |
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Interesting contender, good luck lads
Ascot isn't my track so I won't jinx this one by backing it |
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Completely agree. When I looked at the race he stood out like a sore thumb. Loves C&D, attractive mark, ran well penultimate start, one bad run easily forgiven when it's perfectly possible that the poor run was planned to get him down a couple more lbs for this. Will start at no bigger than 20/1 and probably has a 10/1-12/1 type chance given overall profile.
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Think it's a good shout myself, also took some 40s. No 10/1 shot though.
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Seems to be the odd nibble for this one.
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A bit like Redford had the odd nibble before Saturday[;)]
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put up in weekender today....will have brought a few nibbles..
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Very interesting shout Gunner. I actually backed him at York, which was a silly bet given his racing style. He was never in the hunt but we've seen that many times before when horses get shuffled back and can't get in a blow on the Knavesmire. Certainly wouldn't put anyone off at 40s and has all the traits to go close if things drop right. Good luck all.
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25s best now.
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not in paddys list is it running
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25s Paddy according to Oddschecker.
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don't know what to make of that, 1st time poster.
bit worrying... but this is the perfect race for him, surely only a injury would be a reason for not running in this. fingers crossed he's declared. |
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I rang PP 2 days ago and was not offered a price, all excuses not to lay one. Used clueless telephone staff to deliver message but so easy to see through. This will run and is handicapped to win on its favourite course and distance. The move to Dandy is the icing on the cake and being a second or third string in this yard means nothing in big handicaps.
I was gutted with the original poster when this was highlighted because I was (probably foolishly) going to "slow play " its chances on the day but its also refreshing (and re-asssuring) that so many ante post punters also like its chance on Saturday. |
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Is this an official chargeeeeeeeeeeeeee horse now ?
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custardcream64 22 Sep 10 23:39
Is this an official chargeeeeeeeeeeeeee horse now ? Me thinks so. I'm on. |
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Fly in the ointment could be too much rain ..
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yeah raining quite a bit heere atm.
fwiw sint, 3 of his 4 wins have come with the headgear. |
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Interesting Gunner.
Not sure if he will be wearing them at the weekend, but as mentioned earlier im not totally sure it is crucial as each trainer has their own ideas about what's best for the horse. Dandy may put them on, he may not. |
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Sorry guys but not declared.
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Unlucky Gunny
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he was even tipped in Weekender on Wednesday... quite disappointing really...
looked an interesting runner |
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Imperial Guest sneaks in off bottom weight .....
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:)
Where can you see the decs Gunny? |
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RP site carvills, who do you like for this?
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Have already put up Imperial Guest at 33. Can't believe he's still a pony with Hills, may have to go in again...
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Think i might have some of that.
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The booking of C. Sou. for JOHNSTONS horse Colepeper is quite interesting .
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Have given a look through this, this morning and 2 i think look overpriced are Imperial Guest at 25s and Golden Desert at 33/4/40s
Both wil do for me e/w |