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all coolmore runners on the day?
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I can't see them letting RVW and **** take each other on; it's a tasty little race though with Twice Over, Cavalryman coming back to form, and the improving Sea Lord.
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quite odd if they do,imo. As both horses will have to fight their guts out to beat the other. Not ideal,imo.
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Twice Over's participation will see off Fame and Glory - Coolmore know Cecils's horse has too much speed. Expect RVW to run though.
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Rip Van Winkle wins. End of thread
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I wonder if we may see Fantastic Light / Galileo tactics employed on Cavalryman here.
ie the johnston horse makes it, Frankie stalks on cavalryman and tries to get first run and accelerate away from the coolmore horses in the stretch. because if they sit and wait I doubt they'll reverse the form. |
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I think only 2 horses can win this - Twice Over and Rip Van Winkle.
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I have to agree.
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Twice Over will win this ...7/2 with lads
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I'd rather be on Twice Over than RVW at current prices. At least this time Queally will know what the main danger is, rather than getting into a separate battle with Byword. Should be a decent pace with Sea Lord in there.
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I would prefer the Rip as he on home soil and has the better head to head record.
I am very surprised to see Famous name take his chance. He HATED the ground when he scrambled home here back in May. Maybe he is in there to make an even pace for Twice Over. |
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RVW has been brought along slowly by O'brien to peak in the second half of the season. Twice Over will not see what way RVW goes on saturday. I think the International will hav ebrought the horse to a peak whereas I think Twice Over was at the top of his game at york
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I'd favour RVW but don't think there will be much between him and Twice Over. The argument I would make for Twice Over is that at York he got involved with Byword and RVW sneaked up the rail on possibly faster ground. At the prices I would rather back TO - RVW is too short.
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Can anyone sum up the other horses in this race? Very little has been said about Cape Blanco and Sea Lord- the latter I think will have serious stamina issues, but maybe I'm wrong. Cape Blanco's form isn't as good as what it looks on paper, his 2nd to Harbinger may not be very solid form. It has been shown that Beethoven simply should not be good enough, Famous Name could run a very good race here, he's unexposed and I think the price gap between him and Beethoven should be much wider, and Famous Name could well be the value in the race at 25/1.
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I would sum them up as having no chance. Whatever finishes in front of Twice Over will win - and that can surely only be Rip.
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Soapp, I think Famous Name kicked for home early that day, becausel Smullen was worried about giving a soft lead to the tne snd fav,Duff ? Cant remember it's name. Anyway it did scramble home as you say but think it was as a result of the way the race was run as opposed to the ground imo.
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9/2 about Twice Over on here, quite ridiclous imvho.
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Agreed Sint
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Have a feeling that BEETHOVEN is the dark horse here, and is the one that maybe capable of springing a surprise (should the stable allow him to beat there own "wonderhorse" RVW).
Beethoven won the g1 dewhurst last season, the race usually thought to be the top 2yo race. Although crabbed by many at the time, that race now looks quite strong. With many of the runners performing well since, and at least 2, Buzzword and Dick Turpin going on to g1 success. Not reappearing until the SJP at Ascot, Beethoven performed pretty well for first appearance for 8mths. Next out in the sussex at Gwd, again ran pretty well, just looking a bit outpaced but only 3 lgths behind RVW. Has since had a confidence boosting win and so may now be more to come. His sire certainly improved for the step up to 1m2f at 3, so must be a chance this fellow will to, and it may also be that he really comes to himself at this time of year. A lot of if's there. but could be the big improver with the step up in distance, and at the 33/1 available im willing to risk a few quid!! |