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26 Jul 10 11:56
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Anybody involved with anything yet ?  Lot of interest around Harris Tweed (7's generally) , but i think Purple Moon coming back for another crack is certainly an e/w possible @16'ish.
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Report betilyerded August 2, 2010 5:14 PM BST
Betchworth Kid for me too. Billy Hill must be feeling generous today as he laid me 20 quid each way at 40's.Whoopie. Also like Hughie Morrisons entry (wont try to spell it). Won well at Royal Ascot and  no disgrace next time behind Mark Johnstons horse who won well at Goodwood last week. 25's generally.
Report bornisthekingofSB August 3, 2010 11:16 AM BST
you lads think you'll have to be rated mid 90s to 'get a run'?
Report shevvy August 3, 2010 9:21 PM BST
Word of warning Imposing off to Australia.
Report Facts August 3, 2010 11:38 PM BST
Will Overturn run ?
Report Dr.Asparticus August 4, 2010 12:05 AM BST
winner runs tomorrow
Report Pinza August 4, 2010 5:37 PM BST
Buggar all entered tomorrow
Report Pinza August 5, 2010 10:40 AM BST
Presume you meant Red Cadeaux
Forget that one now.
I know it ran a decent race in Chester Cup but don't think they know it's optimum trip yet.

There are 16 potential Ebor runnings entered for Shergar Ascot meeting.
Report DoSystemsWork?? August 5, 2010 11:39 AM BST
I really fancy DIRAR and am surprised to see it drifting on B/Fair??

Any reason for this.

Trainer wnats to run it, has a nice weight - obviously someone doesn't fancy it!!
Report Doctor Feelgood August 5, 2010 11:44 AM BST
Had a look at this as well. Ladcrooks shortest on the beast. Twice the price on here.
Report frankie57 August 5, 2010 12:19 PM BST
When is the next declaration stage for the EBOR
Report Dr.Asparticus August 5, 2010 1:45 PM BST
Think Red Cadeaux ran OK yesterday. Had been entered all over the place for last few weeks. Needed the run badly and wouldn't want penalty. Improved markedly for first run this season and can do so again. Well handicapped. Can still win Ebor at very nice odds.
Report deadloss August 5, 2010 1:58 PM BST
Thurs 12th August at 12pm
Report doncaster rover August 5, 2010 10:40 PM BST
still say imposing and the money is starting to trickle in if he runs he will be fav of that there is no doubt you can quote me on that
Report bornisthekingofSB August 6, 2010 8:39 AM BST
i know that The Ebor is always run at an 'honest' pace,but this year alot at the head of the market love to lead or race prom,obviously they would all have to  turn up/get in,but we have Harris Tweed,Martyr,Overturn,Fortuni and Bay Willow to name a few.
Report shevvy August 6, 2010 2:17 PM BST
doncaster rover

I thinm Imposing goes to Aussie and will miss the Ebor,
Report Dark Destroyer August 10, 2010 4:33 PM BST
Harris Tweed - big question about making the cut
Martyr - my fancy but short enough now
Imposing - N/R. Respect to Shevvy for spotting this so early - you are now on the "trusted" list Grin
Fortuni - negative noises from stable when weights came out. Is it back in serious training? Doubt anyone will be kind enough to let us know.
Overturn - post Galway reports suggested he would duck this race. Has there been a change of heart?

Put it another way, if you fancy anything at a double figure price this looks like being a very decent AP market to play right now.
Report shevvy August 10, 2010 6:02 PM BST
Cheers DD  :) 
Quite like Hanoverian Baron for this, Fallon seemed pretty sure he'd stay when he won on him last time.
Report Chanting August 11, 2010 5:32 AM BST
If Overturn runs I don`t think it will be headed-regardless of the draw[;)]
Report Wayne Butcher August 11, 2010 10:12 PM BST
I like fortuni but not clear if its running and conflicting messages from the exchanges!
Report harchibald August 12, 2010 8:58 AM BST

Overpriced at 25/1 with bet £3.65p. 

He simply shouldn't be this big - they managed to accomodate a whole 40 quid so I settled at 20's with others on the balance.

Trained for the race. Back to form 4th in the John Smiths over a trip short of his best, just behind Wigmore Hall who is now group class - and you saw what he did at Newmarket. He carries 8.13 which ain't bad for a big framed fella.

Doesn't want it too fast but the taps are on at York for sure next week for the Yorkshire Oaks & this race so I have read.

Go back through his form last season he looks special, that second to the Gosden horse is top drawrer stuff.

At Hamilton this season he absolutely ate them up travelling really well - watch the race. Hughes was booked for subsequent Haydock trip where he never went on the ground but he showed his well being to be placed at 50/1 in the John Smiths.
This is the exact same route followed by the stable's star Nanton last year.

Goldie has stated this is Hillviewboy's  target and trained Nanton to get 4th last year.

Looking at the weights he is well weighted for a big framed horse. I think 25/1 was massive, a market rick as he is 16/1 in places.

He & thebetchworthkid are my two against the field for Wednesday - and if it rains Hillviewboy chances will be compounded.
Report Facts August 12, 2010 12:42 PM BST
Chanting Joined: 26 Oct 09
Replies: 83 11 Aug 10 05:32   

If Overturn runs I don`t think it will be headed-regardless of the draw 

Agreed ! Happy
Report GREEDISGOOD August 12, 2010 1:12 PM BST
overturn i heard will  be pulled out. do not bet on it!
Report Facts August 12, 2010 1:15 PM BST
from whom did you hear this please ?
Report GREEDISGOOD August 12, 2010 1:30 PM BST
only joking. just wanted to see the boards  reaction. it will run 100%sure . lol.
Report Swagger August 12, 2010 1:43 PM BST
How many will not run from those entered: -

Dangerous Midge likely to run at Newbury
Tastihill likely to run in Lonsdale Cup
At least 2 will pull out from Godolphin, maybe 3.


I will be seething if Red Cadeaux missed the cut by one because an old dog like Nanton runs instead when he has absolutely no chance off his mark.
Report GREEDISGOOD August 12, 2010 3:05 PM BST
the only certs to run are Martyr and overturn. martyr appears to be specially aimed for this race and has apparently improved 10lbs   from last time on the gallops. And it appears Overturn has recovered well enough to maintain his form to the ebor.

forget jedi, bay willow , drunken sailor and harris tweed
Report doogs August 12, 2010 3:17 PM BST
LUCA CUMANI will not have a runner in Wednesday's Totesport Ebor at York after the trainer took all three of his entries - Drunken Sailor, Purple Moon and Manighar - out of the race at Thursday's five-day declaration stage.

Quoted on his website, Cumani, who has saddled the winner of Europe's richest handicap three times, said: "We usually like to go for the Ebor at York with a leading fancy, but unfortunately we won't have a runner in the big handicap this year."

Drunken Sailor had been as short as 10-1 with William Hill for the famous handicap, while Purple Moon, who did not feature in the entries for the Weatherbys Insurance Lonsdale Cup either, was a 12-1 shot with the same firm.

The William Haggas-trained Harris Tweed, who is set to take his chance in Tuesday's Great Voltigeur Stakes,  remains among a total of 57 possibles, with Tastahil alloted top weight of 9st 11lb.

Martyr, a facile winner at Glorious Goodwood, currently heads the market at a general 5-1.
Report GREEDISGOOD August 12, 2010 3:19 PM BST
lol the bookies all have Harris tweed still in
Report Facts August 12, 2010 6:01 PM BST
all apart from 7 !
Report harchibald August 12, 2010 6:46 PM BST
Dangerous Midge won't turn up either surely as looks likely for geff freer at the weekend ...

this race will cut up. again more reason to back HILLVIEWBOY at 20's IMVHO
Report cryoftruth August 12, 2010 11:25 PM BST
The Ebor winner averages a race rating about 12lbs higher than its handicap mark.

Look through the field and see if you can see many horses that might do this.

If Dangerous midge wins he would be a group 2 horse all of a sudden of his current mark. This does not seem particularly likely, decent horse and improving though he is.
Report cryoftruth August 12, 2010 11:29 PM BST

I cannot cope with the description of Nanton. He is an amazingly versatile horse, has won loads of races and would be one we all would love to have owned. The trip will be fine, he acts on any going, he has a turn of foot too. He is not well handicapped, but its hardly his fault and to call him names says nothing about the horse, but plenty about the person calling him horrible names!
Report Swagger August 13, 2010 1:05 AM BST
cryoftruth - I knew I would be picked up on that! Fair enough, he is an old servant and a credit to connections, etc. It would just frustrate me as a racing fan and a punter to see him run in a race I think he realistically has no chance of winning winning out other horses who do. But like you say it's not the horse's fault (although if he wasn't grey then would you feel the same!). He is carrying the best of a stone more than last year, he didn't win then and he hasn't improved another year on - surely it would be more pragmatic to try and win a listed race or a weak Group 3 abroad with him than ask him to carry a big lump round in a race of this nature (again).
Report Swagger August 13, 2010 1:06 AM BST
* keeping not winning
Report Swagger August 13, 2010 1:08 AM BST
It should be noted, looking at the forecast we could well be heading for SOFT going for the Ebor.
Report Chanting August 13, 2010 8:31 AM BST
Overturn a DEFINITE GLAD I got on EARLYLaughLaughLaugh
Report Rod Tidwell August 13, 2010 9:21 AM BST
where did you see that please Chanting?...all I saw yesterday was a report saying he was 50-50.
Admirable performer who could still be well treated but I would be worrying that he won't get things all his own way on likely rain softened ground next week
Report Chanting August 13, 2010 9:25 AM BST
On Racing UK last nightLaugh
Report GREEDISGOOD August 13, 2010 9:27 AM BST
I live near york and we are only expecting light showers in the coming days.  I still think it will be good ground come ebor day.  Nontheless, both overturn and martyr will not like soft ground.  Good ground would suit Martyr better, G/S would suit Overturn better (depending if it shows up).
Report johnn August 13, 2010 9:28 AM BST
Forecast says rain for Monday and "heavy rain" for Tuesday.
Report Chanting August 13, 2010 9:31 AM BST
Greedisgod The only going Overturn will not like is HEAVY. Overturn has won on soft when trained by Swinburn.
Report bornisthekingofSB August 13, 2010 9:53 AM BST
little bit more rain please for The Betchworth Kid
Report johnn August 13, 2010 10:01 AM BST
Strangely enough I've just had a tickle on the said beast. First bet I've struck for the forthcoming jamboree.
Report bornisthekingofSB August 13, 2010 10:07 AM BST
25s johnn?
Report johnn August 13, 2010 10:14 AM BST
25s best on Hight St, a few coppers at 28/29 available here.
Report bornisthekingofSB August 13, 2010 10:16 AM BST
cheers and GL johnn
Report johnn August 13, 2010 10:28 AM BST
You too, mate.
Report SOULDANCER August 13, 2010 12:10 PM BST
I always bet 8-8 or under in this, there was only one last year, the 25-1 winner.
Report johnn August 13, 2010 12:14 PM BST
Praise the Lord, too. I laid the APOB horse heavily on course, 2.98 felt like a crazy price with the hustle and bustle of that race.
Report abbott August 13, 2010 12:37 PM BST
Ladbrokes last to hold the 16s for Hillview Boy 14s everywhere else.
Report SOULDANCER August 13, 2010 12:51 PM BST
If Hillview Boy stays this trip then I've got him seriously wrong.
Report GREEDISGOOD August 13, 2010 2:28 PM BST
' Overturn has won on soft when trained by Swinburn. ' true but I ;d prefer the horse on good ground as it suits its leg action better. it is still 50-50 to run though according to the racingpost.  I have a sneaky feeling from what the trainer said the horse is shot to pieces though so cannot take such a skinny price (7.0) on him.

I can guarantee you here it will not be heavy come next week.  the recent forecast predictions are not entirely accurate. addionally the met office forecasts and bbc forecasts are somewhat different.  But IMO it will stay good ground come next week.
Report Facts August 13, 2010 3:39 PM BST
GREEDISGOOD Joined: 31 Jul 10
Replies: 116 12 Aug 10 13:30   

only joking. just wanted to see the boards  reaction. it will run 100%sure

you were this sure a day ago !
Report Chanting August 13, 2010 5:11 PM BST
Grredisgood Overturn has only just STARTED to come good. Overturn will run them all ragged regardless of the goingLaugh
Report GREEDISGOOD August 13, 2010 9:40 PM BST
if you say so Chanting.
Report harchibald August 13, 2010 10:18 PM BST
A trio of horses have been backed ahead of next week’s Totesport Ebor and Hillview Boy is now 12/1 (from 16/1) with the sponsors for Europe’s richest handicap.

Deauville Flyer has also been cut to 14/1 (from 20/1) whilst The Betchworth Kid has also been popular and is now 20/1 (from 25s).
Report GREEDISGOOD August 13, 2010 11:39 PM BST
just about every other horse has been backed because of the withdrawals. others backed incl overturn, maryr, elyaadi. not so bothered as i laid imposing, harris tweed, and purple moon.
Report platinni August 14, 2010 8:34 PM BST
Report geton August 15, 2010 8:27 AM BST
anyone got any trends?

and draw bias for the big race
Report GREEDISGOOD August 15, 2010 1:39 PM BST
depends on the ground.  The ground will be 'good' ground 85% sure.
Report GREEDISGOOD August 15, 2010 1:43 PM BST
i have a feeling Overturn will be sent of favorite on the day. That must be a place lay (this will upset many backers).  With the sheer amount of times he has run this year, Overturn being exhausted after its last run and with his connections being just 'hopeful' it is a clear lay.
Report Facts August 15, 2010 5:11 PM BST
Who is saying the horse is 'exhausted' after its last run?
Report Facts August 15, 2010 5:14 PM BST
GREEDISGOOD Joined: 31 Jul 10
Replies: 174 12 Aug 10 15:05   

the only certs to run are Martyr and overturn. martyr appears to be specially aimed for this race and has apparently improved 10lbs   from last time on the gallops. And it appears Overturn has recovered well enough to maintain his form to the ebor.

You appear to contradict yourself !!
Report harchibald August 15, 2010 7:09 PM BST
I suspect Fallon is going to get the ride on HILLVIEWBOY judging on today's set piece lay ups from Goldie, LVS won very well with him in the plate. This would be a positive. Goldie was interviewed on RUK, both northern lads on the channel think he has the winner of the Ebor (rain permitting) as do I BUT ......

Looking through the card a couple worry me. Not least CENTENNIAL. This could be a Jonjo plot job. Needs cut in the ground, gets in off 98 has been rated 114 in his time (!). I am concerned and may cover with him. Also the HoJo horse PROSPECTWELLS looks dangerous, one would have thought they have the measure of him through Nanton in the Goldie yard though so the positive market vibes could be valid. Uncovered on these 2 outsiders but concerned a little.

Anyone else see anything interesting today re the Ebor ?
Report Facts August 15, 2010 7:45 PM BST
just my notes - that tells me Overturn is the one !
Report harchibald August 15, 2010 8:14 PM BST
you see the story from Ahearn on overturn and the ground ?
Report Chanting August 16, 2010 7:50 AM BST
Greeedisgood As I said earlier... Overturn is a DEFINITE runner and Overturn is ONLY JUST BEGINNING TO COME GOOD
Watch the race and see an "exhausted" Overturn burst from the stalls to lead ALL THE WAY

Report darkroom August 16, 2010 9:14 AM BST
Looks like Philip Makin rides Hillview Boy. Fallon was booked for Rosika a few days ago.
Report darkroom August 16, 2010 10:14 AM BST
Demolition last one in I think.
Report jolly buoy August 16, 2010 10:27 AM BST
Thanks Darkroom
Report doogs August 16, 2010 11:03 AM BST
Brian Meehan's Dangerous Midge will carry top weight in Wednesday's totesport Ebor at York.

Having missed an intended engagement at Newbury on Saturday, the impressive Old Newton Cup winner will bid to land his second major handicap of the summer.

Donald McCain's money-spinner Overturn has been declared as he looks to follow up victories in the Northumberland Plate on the level and Galway Hurdle over timber.

The Gordon Elliott-trained Dirar, third behind Overturn at Galway, has another crack at that rival with Jamie Spencer booked to ride.

Cesarewitch winner Darley Sun drops back into handicap company for Godolphin after disappointing in the Ascot Gold Cup. Stablemate Sopranist also runs.

Former classy French performer Prospect Wells has just his second start for Howard Johnson and will be looking to follow up a victory in Listed company at Pontefract.

Jim Goldie has two chances with Nanton, fourth last year, and Hillview Boy.

Richard Hannon will be represented by the bang-in-form Martyr, with John Queally, no stranger to plundering big prizes in England with Al Eile, running Elyaadi.

Fortuni and Bernie The Bolt scrape in courtesy of recent wins, while Richard Fahey's Demolition is the last of the 20 runners guaranteed a run. Red Cadeaux and Stanstill are the two reserves.

Harris Tweed, Hanoverian Baron and Deauville Flyer all miss the cut.
Report andyd08 August 16, 2010 11:15 AM BST
i have had a few quid on Red Cadeaux ante post

if there arent any nr's does that mean i done my dough or do i get it back like it been balloted out?

Report doogs August 16, 2010 11:28 AM BST
Money back Andy
Report andyd08 August 16, 2010 11:32 AM BST
cheers doogs

and the answer i wanted as well!

Report Stake & Chips August 16, 2010 11:42 AM BST
112     1-1661        Dangerous Midge 46    4    9-10    B J Meehan64    Martin Dwyer     109     112     116
219     6/77-1        Prospect Wells 59    5    9-9    J Howard Johnson    Paul Mulrennan     108     64     113
35     121-39        Darley Sun 62      4    9-7    Saeed Bin Suroor75    Frankie Dettori     106     90     118
46     -25265        Nanton 25    8    9-7    J S Goldie45    Paul Norton7     106     84     118
521    652415        Salute Him 19      7    9-6    A J Martin    J Murtagh     105     113     115
610     3715-7        The Betchworth Kid 20      5    9-4    A King50    Hayley Turner     103     92     116
79     44-189        Bridge Of Gold 174    4    9-2    M A Magnusson100    George Baker     101     112     121
811     22-320        Sopranist 39    4    9-2    Saeed Bin Suroor75    Ted Durcan     101     —     32
922     2051-1        Dirar 20J    5    9-1    Gordon Elliott33    Jamie Spencer     100     102     119
1016     2745-0        Ajaan 105 b      6    9-1    H R A Cecil64    Tom Queally     100     89     118
114    601311        Martyr 22 4x      5    9-1    R Hannon61    Richard Hughes     100     112     122
127     2-4104        Hillview Boy 39    6    9-0    J S Goldie45    Phillip Makin     99     113     117
1318     7221-1        Overturn 20J      6    9-0    D McCain Jnr    Eddie Ahern     99     99     117
1415     770-69        Centennial 26 b    5    8-13    Jonjo O´Neill40    Richard Kingscote     98     93     116
158     12-374        Rosika 20    4    8-12    Sir Michael Stoute55    Kieren Fallon     97     117     121
1613     /14-01        Fortuni 74    4    8-11    Sir Mark Prescott79    Seb Sanders     96     92     118
173     306-12        Elyaadi 64      6    8-11    John Queally    G F Carroll3     96     117     117
182     31-001        Bernie The Bolt 11 4x      4    8-11    A M Balding65    Jimmy Fortune     96     104     119
191     100-63        Desert Sea 53      7    8-10    D W P Arbuthnot50    Neil Callan     95     94     118
2017     -30423        Demolition 39      6    8-9    R A Fahey63    Tom Eaves     94     113     117
2120     5-7184        Red Cadeaux 14      4    8-9    E A L Dunlop87    Jim Crowley     94     105     113
2214     -14440        Stanstill 24      4    8-9    G A Swinbank45    P J McDonald     94     111     118
Report Stake & Chips August 16, 2010 11:42 AM BST
* Bottom 2 reserves
Report Michrich August 16, 2010 2:26 PM BST
Anyone know what the general record of female horses is in the Ebor. I know Sesenta won last year.
Report Dr.Asparticus August 16, 2010 3:17 PM BST
When do the reserves become NRs? Is it tomorrow morning? Thanks in advance...!
Report doogs August 16, 2010 3:58 PM BST
I'm sure it's 9am tomorrow Dr A
Report EastLower Gooner August 16, 2010 5:11 PM BST
bernie the bolt looks interesting. exuses first two runs, well backed last time when balding said he was finally fit.
Report SOULDANCER August 16, 2010 6:48 PM BST
Elyaadi 12-1 bog, easy for me, the only one 8-8 or under, the claimer putting him on 8-8. Really is my favourite trend, been a goldmine over the years.
Report betilyerded August 16, 2010 7:06 PM BST
Before backing anything for the race my I suggest watching a recording of last years race and the nightmare run The Betchworth Kid got that day. Surely would have gone close and if Mr King has the horse in the same form then it has to go close again, hasnt it??
Report carvillshill August 16, 2010 10:16 PM BST
Anyone else give Prospect Wells a squeak?
Report doogs August 17, 2010 9:41 AM BST
I hope your right Betilyerded as I've backed him at 33/1 and got a nice e/w double with him at 25's and Damika at 20's fm Saturday's Gt St Wil Cool
Report Chanting August 17, 2010 9:55 AM BST
[;)]Will start favourite and will going away FACTs
Report Facts August 17, 2010 10:54 AM BST
Hope so Chanting
gl Happy
Report doogs August 17, 2010 11:20 AM BST
From Alan King's website :-

Henry Ponsonby, never afraid to have a tilt at the ring, has put on his betting boots and recommends we wade in too and back his horse The Betchworth Kid in tomorrow’s £210,000 totesport Ebor Handicap at York.

    The Betchworth Kid, who was pulled up over hurdles at the Cheltenham Festival in March, is reckoned “spot on” by Alan after his comeback race in last month’s Goodwood Cup, and Ponsonby, convinced that his versatile stayer, who has proved another money-spinner for his successful syndicate, should have won this prestigious prize last year, is brimming with confidence.

    He said: ”Obviously, we need luck in running and he might have 3lb too much, but I think The Betchworth Kid is a terrific each-way bet. He was only beaten a length last year, having still been plum last of the 19 runners at the furlong-pole. He was checked three times up the straight but flew home in the last 100 yards, and Hayley Turner, who rides again, is adamant that without those traffic problems she would have won. This does not look as strong a race as it was last year, and we are all very hopeful.

   “The Betchworth Kid had a great summer break after his stint hurdling and he was not tuned-up at Goodwood, but it was imperative that he had a prep-race before York and Alan was delighted with his performance.

    “He came there with half a chance of getting in the money early in the straight but then took a long gasp for air and Hayley looked after him. He has come on a lot for that run and we just need the rub of the green, but he is a horse who has to be dropped out and I always have my angina tablets handy when he runs.”
Report Rod Tidwell August 17, 2010 2:09 PM BST
Another unfortunate draw for Overturn. Luckily for him I can only spot Fortuni as one who might want to take him on for the lead and that is in there anything else in there that likes to force the pace?
Report toderav August 17, 2010 7:21 PM BST
fingers crossed there is a withdrawal and Red Cadeaux gets a run
Report colupaul August 17, 2010 7:33 PM BST
carvills-I've been looking for one that may have slipped under the radar and have settled on Prospect Wells.  Not much to recommend it on the stats either win or place, too much weight in particular.  However, should be a fair bit of improvement to come following on from its win at Ponty after 2 years off.  I like these unknown quantity types in these sort of races but whether 40+ is value is anybody's guess...
Report Chanting August 18, 2010 5:58 AM BST
Overturn CLEAR Fav. Watch Eddie FLY out of stall 18. Nothing will catch Overturn on this trackLaughLaugh
Report Facts August 18, 2010 10:49 AM BST
Rod Tidwell Joined: 27 Aug 01
Replies: 618 17 Aug 10 14:09   

Another unfortunate draw for Overturn. Luckily for him I can only spot Fortuni as one who might want to take him on for the lead and that is in there anything else in there that likes to force the pace? 

How can his draw be a negative ...???

last 10 years

16, 14, 14, 18, 3, 17, 20, 20, 16

He is drawn 18... think he has a pretty good draw...? Happy
Report Pinza August 18, 2010 12:19 PM BST
Some people get something into their head and keep it there.
The mid to low draw was prevelant 1982-1998 with only 3 high draw winners in that period.
Need to keep abreast with change.
Report downallstar August 18, 2010 12:36 PM BST
Overturn for moi @7s.
Saver on Elyaadi, just incase OT fades late.
Report Chanting August 18, 2010 1:34 PM BST
Overturn will go into OVERDRIVE at the 2F pole and BREAK THEIR HEARTSLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Facts August 18, 2010 1:59 PM BST
keep tellin 'em Chanting !Happy
Report Chanting August 18, 2010 3:58 PM BST
CryCome on......WHO shot Overturn??CryCryCryCryCry
Report Facts August 18, 2010 4:40 PM BST
Shot his bolt more likely ! To the well once too often I'm afraid.
Report soapp August 18, 2010 6:18 PM BST
Ireland two of two. Grin

No doubt the handicapper will hang us out to dry next year!!
Report Chanting August 19, 2010 9:50 AM BST
I went to the Wedding so i had to go to the Funeral. I hope it is a case of Overturn being "over the top" and nothing more serious
My Ante-Post book included Martyr and Dirar (I only backed the latter because it was too big on Betfair 25.0 when most firms were going 16/1)
Unfortunately I steamed in on Overturn when I saw Overturn in the parade ring-it looked a picture
Everything went to plan. Ahern got Overturn out smartish and off he went.
Come on...WHO SHOT OVERTURN[;)]LaughLaughLaugh[smiley:crazy][smiley:crazy][smiley:crazy]
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