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the winner yesterday was impressive but this race imo is tailormade for wigmore hall. this horse needs a big field and a real strong pace i think last time was a complete write off there was no pace in the race . very highly rated at the bell yard and was entered for the king edward . i just hope michael bell runs him in the race .. think its perfect for him
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Agree Dan, only caveat being its not the ideal course for coming way back off the pace from
Dont know if bell thinks the same, and thats what matters in the end, why dont you e mail him??
Ive done it with a few trainers and most of them are helpful
Ive done it with a few trainers and most of them are helpful
Mind you i couldnt talk Luca into running Forte Dei Marni in the hunt cup..............
never thought of that . bell seems like the sort of guy who will write back aswell .
wigmore hall would have won this race todays events have cocked that up . jamie jamie jamie
Zilzal, probably Luca,s choice for magnet, eh?
Worth more than R H CUP.
Worth more than R H CUP.
Hmm, seemed to run out of pertol over the extended 10f there this spring
Cambs imo
Cambs imo
well bell is not running in the eclipse where he had an entry so this surely is on the agenda
Fully agree with Wigmore, huge chance, i'm going to put him in a few AP doubles/trebles as well.
Forte dei Marni for me - 10/1 (gone now 
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Same reasons as when I backed it for the Royal Hunt Cup!
).Same reasons as when I backed it for the Royal Hunt Cup!
Anyone know what fahey's runners are - always targets this race - cheers
glad wigmores running . group horse in a handicap. ive already had myself some 16s antepost
Early days I know, but hopefully I've dug out the winner of the John Smiths Cup on Saturday. I'm sure the one to be on is IMPOSING at odds of 7/1. A false price imo as the bookies are taking no chances with the current fav. I expect them to flip-flop in time as the 'shrewd' money comes for the more likely winner.
Wasn't the one I was worried about to be honest. Still it all helps 
I've been backing SANDOR e.w @ 33/1 (antepost vc) for this once he was jocked up so nice to see things fall into place with not only a very good draw but also his original jockey being replaced by R.Winston - who i'd consider better and stronger than original choice.
Very much an overlooked horse imo who i'd be confident about finishing in the first 4 or 5 given quick ground (likely) and a fast pace (likely).Stays the trip well and is a battler,only downside is he's not a 'group horse in a h'cap - but can't see too many in this field that could be either tbh.
20/1 still looks more than fair e.w. with Wigmore Hall looking a danger but both him and Imposing likely to be held right up i'm not sure i'd want to take short prices for either (although Wigmore does seem to have more 'gears' to get out of trouble imo).
Very much an overlooked horse imo who i'd be confident about finishing in the first 4 or 5 given quick ground (likely) and a fast pace (likely).Stays the trip well and is a battler,only downside is he's not a 'group horse in a h'cap - but can't see too many in this field that could be either tbh.
20/1 still looks more than fair e.w. with Wigmore Hall looking a danger but both him and Imposing likely to be held right up i'm not sure i'd want to take short prices for either (although Wigmore does seem to have more 'gears' to get out of trouble imo).
Respect where its due.
Corals have taken a definite stand on the race being noticeably short on Wigmore Hall, as they have been since betting opened, and consequently offering stand-out prices on Imposing and Forte DM.
Corals have taken a definite stand on the race being noticeably short on Wigmore Hall, as they have been since betting opened, and consequently offering stand-out prices on Imposing and Forte DM.
wigmore/imposing backers worried that the 3 obvious pace angles drawn 16-17-18???
Think Sandor's too big too top div, Sweet Lightning is the one 4 me here tho [:p]
Sopranist 18-1 corls, unlucky 2nd Goodwood h'cap last year,travelled well, only 3lb higher. Unexposed. Suroor does well at York.
HAMILTONRICARD 08 Jul 10 13:09
wigmore/imposing backers worried that the 3 obvious pace angles drawn 16-17-18???
As a Wigmore Hall backer why should this worry me?
wigmore/imposing backers worried that the 3 obvious pace angles drawn 16-17-18???
As a Wigmore Hall backer why should this worry me?
20, 9, 7, 6 can't stop myself 
hope it doesn't go tits up 
hope it doesn't go tits up
Not as big a you but 9s and 7s. Sorely, sorely tempted to go in again.
Go for it 
I've put him in ante-post e-way trebs with Hawkeye in the Stewards and Rewilding in the Leger, to try and land a huge one
I've put him in ante-post e-way trebs with Hawkeye in the Stewards and Rewilding in the Leger, to try and land a huge one
I would be slightly worried by Bell's recent form.
A few fancied runners aint run great in last week or so.
A few fancied runners aint run great in last week or so.
A fair point Benny but this one only ran three weeks ago and showed himself to be in fine form imv.
Agree he was a massive eyecatcher at Ascot.
Worry about traffic problems though and 5/1 now has only a small amount of juice left in it.
Sandor big at 25/1
Sweet Lightning also nice at 12/1
Worry about traffic problems though and 5/1 now has only a small amount of juice left in it.
Sandor big at 25/1
Sweet Lightning also nice at 12/1
I like the look of Shadows Lengthenat 66/1 & 100s on bf
Looks like Easterby has had this race in mind for a while - his 6 wins on the trot last year were all made from the front and his 3rd 3 runs back at Ponterect as well where he was beaten by last years John Smiths 3rd Albaqqaa who hes on 1lb better terms today. The 2nd at Pontefract has also won since & carries top weight today. The next 2 runs were both at York but in both races he was held up and never put in the race hmmm!. James Sullivan is back piloting today & low draw (6) should suit a run from the front off bottom weight. Indian Days & Desert Kiss 2 other likely front runners are drawn 17 & 18. At 66/1 & 100s on bf i think Shadows Lengthen is good value & a decent back to lay as well.
Ive also had a saver on Whimore Hall for more obvious reasons.
Looks like Easterby has had this race in mind for a while - his 6 wins on the trot last year were all made from the front and his 3rd 3 runs back at Ponterect as well where he was beaten by last years John Smiths 3rd Albaqqaa who hes on 1lb better terms today. The 2nd at Pontefract has also won since & carries top weight today. The next 2 runs were both at York but in both races he was held up and never put in the race hmmm!. James Sullivan is back piloting today & low draw (6) should suit a run from the front off bottom weight. Indian Days & Desert Kiss 2 other likely front runners are drawn 17 & 18. At 66/1 & 100s on bf i think Shadows Lengthen is good value & a decent back to lay as well.
Ive also had a saver on Whimore Hall for more obvious reasons.
I'm not going to knock you too much Tel because he is 66/1+ but when did he show that he has the pace to win over 10f?
3rd at Ponte was 10f (ok a stiff 10). hes gona have to make all and hang on, at the price you cant have it all! front runners do well at york though
2nd for the trainer in the 1st there
2nd for the trainer in the 1st there
ignore ams teddy, nose nothing
battles and has the gears to get to the front from that draw.
battles and has the gears to get to the front from that draw.
Plat 
Yeah, like I say, i'm not going to knock it too much 'cos he is 66/1+ after all. Good luck but 10f form is a must imv for this.
Yeah, like I say, i'm not going to knock it too much 'cos he is 66/1+ after all. Good luck but 10f form is a must imv for this.
arguably the best 10fl form 3 runs ago. look how impressive DM was nto?
That was an awful race where only 5 had a chance according to the market. The fact Albaqaa was 9/4f tells you all you need to know about the race. The race DM won nto had almost half the field out of the handicap and the runner-up has been beaten since. If that Ponte race is the best 10f form on offer here i'll honestly give up the game.
good answer!
albaqaa was backed off the boards due to fahy form iirc but anyway
albaqaa was backed off the boards due to fahy form iirc but anyway
I more or less bought Albaqaa last season with the amount of times I backed him! Yeah, I think Fahey was in blistering form at the time, probably still is tbf, but the fact he could win it off 95 tells me it wasn't a great race. I really need this race to be over, never had anything like as much on a horse as what i've had on Wiggy..............
Yeah, I think Fahey was in blistering form at the time, probably still is tbf, but the fact he could win it off 95 tells me it wasn't a great race. I really need this race to be over, never had anything like as much on a horse as what i've had on Wiggy..............
dont like 3yo's in these competitive h/c's but he's well in alright
gl
gl
Yeah, 3yo is my only worry but they have been running well against their elders in the last week or so.
Cheers and gl with yours.
Cheers and gl with yours.
Agree with Top Div, Liam. Sandor looks too big at 25/1 (7.25 decimal to place, 5.8 on here). Won fairly easily LTO, beating Follow The Flag, who's in top form at the moment. Sandor may find an unxposed one too good, but can't resist 7.25 to place.
WD Amaru
You stuck to your guns - hope you cleaned up there
You stuck to your guns - hope you cleaned up there
lol plat couldnt get to the front, had a little bit on the winner
wd amaru
wd amaru
Job done
Shaking....thought he'd of won much easier than that, scared me
Shaking....thought he'd of won much easier than that, scared me
Having backed the unlucky in running 5th place Sandor and 'saved' on the horse that i felt was the danger,Wigmore Hall,i'm expecting the result of the stewards to be just about the worse sort of double whammy possible !.
I'd take Wigmore being demoted to last of course !.
I'd take Wigmore being demoted to last of course !.
Cheers lads, never had as much on and never won as much!! Chuffed to bits!!!
wp Rhinestone and td.
wp Rhinestone and td.
Nice one Amaru - not sure the commentators mentioned it but it did seem highly unlikely that Spencer would push too hard for the demotion of a M.Bell horse that he normally rides in the Stewards room !.
Wouldn't have gone down well would it.
Wouldn't have gone down well would it.
good call rhinestone, i will buy you a brandy tomorrow to celebrate ;o)
we will buy le duc one if he is out ;o) what time u thinking of goin in like?
I was thinking the same myself td, and was surprised it weren't mentioned by NL and GC. Alls well that ends well tho! 
I'll be out with a few of the boys aye Rhinestone. I better not tell them how much I won tho!
WD Dananders.
Like Amaru you spotted this one early and stuck to your guns. I hope you cleaned up.
Like Amaru you spotted this one early and stuck to your guns. I hope you cleaned up.
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