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D Route V E Bleu
16 May 10 16:48
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Without Yeats and Patkai on the easy list this race is wide open with doubts about alot of them imo
Ask - Stoute told us to hang fire with any antepost bets
Aqe Of Aquarius - AOB undecided whether it goes for The Hardwicke instead
Darley Sun and Kite Wood - which is Godolphins's number 1 hope? both not run yet aswell
Manifest - great York Cup win but would an extra 6 furlongs at Ascot be ok for this horse?
Kasbah Bliss - not convinced
Gonna have a small bet on Geordieland even though it's 9 years old,big price and no Yeats or Patkai to contend with,daft bet maybe?
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Report Graeme83 • May 16, 2010 5:57 PM BST
Kasbah is the each way money dude !
Report nibbledat • May 16, 2010 5:57 PM BST
bannaby spaff. anyone remember why he didnt run last year?
Report hippie • May 16, 2010 6:18 PM BST
Kasbah each way means you lose your win and place money dude.
Report ELG • May 16, 2010 6:26 PM BST
EBADYIAN confirmed
Report BJG • May 16, 2010 6:26 PM BST
EBADIYANShocked


Up Monaghan CoolLaugh
Report Graeme83 • May 16, 2010 6:29 PM BST
LaughLaugh
Report Moono • May 16, 2010 6:54 PM BST
Ebadyian great interview haha " I will take off my jersey in front of her majesty" Laugh
Report Me2 • May 16, 2010 7:00 PM BST
nibbledat 16 May 10 17:57 
bannaby spaff. anyone remember why he didnt run last year?


This was my main bet last year, with Yeats and Geordieland as savers.  I never came across anything about why he didn't come over. Wants easy ground??

Steering clear of it this year, because of that experience. 


Already on Askar Tau this year, though slightly regretting it already.
Report PFtrader • May 16, 2010 7:03 PM BST
Manifest was impressive at York and does give the impression he will get further. Having nabbed some 16's on here prior to York I am happy to trade out at 4's for a horse who still has a bit to prove over the trip and who wouldn't seemingly enjoy very fast ground according to connections.

Darley Sun has a bit to find on the ratings with a few of these however he is sure to stay the trip and has won on good and fast ground, and also at Ascot, so represents decent value at 12's for me.

I am also interested in Buxted at big prices. I thought this horse was staying on well in the John Porter for an inexperienced animal, and his last few runs suggest he is crying out for a step up in trip. Whether he wants another mile is questionable on breeding but at 50's with some books and higher on here I will chance a few quid each way.
Report topweight • May 16, 2010 7:53 PM BST
Kasbah Bliss has the speed to have lost out in a phot over 12 furlongs and the stamina to have won over 3m on soft going over hurdles at haydock as well as putting it up to the mighty Inglis Drever in the World Hurdle. he has been laid out for this race by Doumen for about a year. 2m4f on quick ground at ascot is perfect for this horse.this is the winner imo
Report topweight • May 16, 2010 7:53 PM BST
^^Photo^^
Report topweight • May 16, 2010 7:54 PM BST
sorry.the 12furlong race was also a group 1.
Report Moono • May 16, 2010 7:57 PM BST
Manifest is now 7/2 for this race what a joke of a price..Kasbah Bliss all the way for me..
Report hippie • May 16, 2010 8:05 PM BST
This isn't 3 miles on soft going over hurdles at Haydock or the world hurdle. This is the Group 1 Ascot Gold Cup.

As for Doumen laying him out for this race and 2m4f on quick ground being perfect, you just made that up and it flies in the face of all known facts about this horse.
Report TINnotaTON • May 16, 2010 8:15 PM BST
You pay your money and make your choice hippie, simple as.
some people on here fancy kasbah, you obviously dont.
douman was quoted last year as strongly fancying this years ascot gold cup rather than running in the world hurdle.
that may not amount to him laying him out for the race at all, but it was his main aim.
Report rhinestone • May 16, 2010 8:19 PM BST
Kasbah looks to be gagging for the trip, as does Mourilyan

Mischief
Report D Route V E Bleu • May 16, 2010 8:20 PM BST
I just think Kasbah fell out with the game when beaten fav for the world hurdle. sticking with old Geordieland
Report hippie • May 16, 2010 8:22 PM BST
If that's what Doumen said I'd like to see the quote because he's put you away.

This is an 8yo. It's there in black and white why this horse can't win the Gold Cup if you care to look.
Report rhinestone • May 16, 2010 8:27 PM BST
He can't win coz he's 8? Laugh

Get ya hair cut.
Report hippie • May 16, 2010 8:30 PM BST
you read English as well as you read form.
Report rhinestone • May 16, 2010 8:31 PM BST
Laugh
Report Graeme83 • May 16, 2010 8:48 PM BST
Hippie's been on the cheap beans.
Report Moono • May 16, 2010 8:57 PM BST
Who are you backing then hippie you seem so confident Kasbah wont win..
Report topweight • May 17, 2010 6:33 AM BST
This horses best form on the flat has been on a sound surface.He is a genuine group 1 horse who stays and has a turn of foot to compete in 12f grp1's.Doumen has targetted this race since drawing stumps over hurdles. Fair enough if you dont fancy kasbah, but do you actually fancy anything in race or just bein argumentative?  Mischief
Report Me2 • May 17, 2010 11:33 PM BST
On the Bannaby query, I've found out elsewhere that the horse missed the Gold Cup last year due to injury.  Can't have been too serious though, as it was running again three weeks later.
Report Far From Trouble • May 17, 2010 11:37 PM BST
Any news on Holberg?
Report Far From Trouble • May 17, 2010 11:40 PM BST
In fact just noticed he's now trained by Godolphin, so that may explain it
Report Me2 • May 17, 2010 11:42 PM BST
Aren't those bookies a nasty piece of work? Holberg is 14/1, and he hasn't run for a year.  I've had a look on Godolphin's website, and he ain't in the list of their horses in training.
Maybe he's returned to Johnston though?
Report Far From Trouble • May 17, 2010 11:46 PM BST
No idea what's happened, that's why I asked Happy

Impressive enough Queen's Vase winner, Leger winner in behind.

Also holds an entry in the Hardwicke
Report hippie • May 18, 2010 12:47 AM BST
FFT, your asking about Holberg seems to have prompted someone to take the last of the 70s. I should have taken it all.

http://www.godolphin.com/PhotoGalleryMain.aspx?gid=387
[image 4]

He broke the track record winning that Queen's Vase. Fingers crossed he re-appears in the Henry II Stakes.
Report spothediference • May 18, 2010 1:01 AM BST
kasbah is a serious animal especially over this trip imo. slight worry about tge jockey but wont put me off backing him.
Report hippie • May 18, 2010 1:13 AM BST
It doesn't bother you that this 8yo has only raced once in his whole career when the word "firm" appeared in the going, "soft" appears in all but 1 win and he usually spends June in a field?

That's rhetorical btw. Fill yer boots.
Report spothediference • May 18, 2010 2:21 AM BST
hard to find firm ground when he was being aimed at the world hurdle,trainer has stated he is a better horse on better ground thats good enough 4me,its a game of opinions tho.
Report redal2 • May 18, 2010 8:57 AM BST
Holberg doesn't appear on MJ's list of horses in training either.
Report redal2 • May 18, 2010 9:00 AM BST
Is Rite Of Passage a serious entry does anyone know?
Report Sir • May 18, 2010 11:39 AM BST
St Nicholas Abbey will use this race as a stepping stone for the July Cup
Report Equimine.co.uk • May 18, 2010 11:50 AM BST
One who keeps catching my eye at a big price is Samuel. I see he has an entry @ York on Saturday in the race he won two years ago. Anybody have any info. on him and plans?
Report i`m singing the blues • May 18, 2010 12:58 PM BST
As they drop out one by one, 7/2 Manifest will start to look a big price. Ifs, buts and maybes don`t win races. All Manifest can do is improve...
Report redal2 • May 18, 2010 2:06 PM BST
Well I backed Blek at 25s and I gather Mordin has now recommended him so the price may well go out Laugh
Report the istabraq years • May 18, 2010 5:14 PM BST
im keen on sapatadi of stoutes at the prices, he ll go well if he runs...his work with the likes of harbinger is excellent.
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