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16 May 10
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Too big a price for Derby so not running in that i'd expect,French maybe? thanks
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Irish 2000G then more likely French Derby.
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Why are they so keen to run him in the French Derby??
Imv their 2nd best 2yo of last season |
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ta,hmmm so probably Steinbeck,Fencing Master and Jan V in next week's race,gotta start somewhere but i'd have thought Jan V was more of a staying type
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Agree D
Seems a waste sending JV to France |
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Why is it a waste sending him to France ? they have plenty of good horses, and rightly want to win a French classic. He has form over there, and if he trains on could end up a Arc prospect. It wouldn't make sense to run every single good horse over here.
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Which are the good horses they are running over here??
SNA is he really a mile 1/2 horse? CB as above MT imv looked the deffo stayer of the 3 |
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I'm guessing it's behind schedule and that's why we haven't seen it yet,just noticed it holds an entry in The St James Palace aswell,eh? was looking forward to this more than the likes of Cape Blanco with a view to the derby,same applies to Joshua Tree,god knows when that will appear
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It makes perfect sense to target Jan Vermeer for the Prix du Jockey Club followed by the Eclipse.
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i'd have thought RVW would be aimed at The Eclipse,if i was AOB after Paco Boy's performance i'd go for the POW then the Eclipse and stick to ten furlong races,whatever happens i can't see Jan Vermeer winning the Irish G over a mile
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Which are the good horses they are running over here??
SNA is he really a mile 1/2 horse? CB as above MT imv looked the deffo stayer of the 3 Or we could loo at it as Cape Blanco - half a second below Sariska's time carrying 2Ib more on 3y/o appearance, and first time over trip. Midas Touch - excellent Derinstown winner who showed good pace and tenacity to win well. SNA - we're led to believe he's potentially better than the two mentioned above. It doesn't look like a vintage renewal. Therefore they should keep some ammo for other big races in other countries. They are a breeding operation as well, so it makes sense to broaden their horizons beyond these shores. |
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The time between the Prix du Jockey Club and the Eclipse is perfect. AOB has won 4 Eclipses, 3 of those winners were 3yo's (as was RVW last year).
The Prince of Wales's Stakes and the Eclipse is an either/or, not both. |
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As this is a 'live' thread - whats the deal with Godolphins Passion For Gold ? Criterium winner but didnt run in the Dante because of a back problem. Obviously got the class - anyone know the latest or does the 140 say it all ?
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I think the 140 says it all mate. I think they are running Chabal(don't write him off) and Al Zir. PFG missed the dante obviously, and they said it was a pulled back muscle which keep him out for a few weeks. Given the proximity to the derby, he won't be ready.
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The back problem was flagged a good few weeks before the Dante so depending on the severity he might be made ready for a run - you only get one go at the Derby ...
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You never know. Maybe they will run him at Goodwood(can't think of any other preps) as a trial. I think they are more inclined to miss it all the same.
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Not entered at Goodwood,just looked
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As it stands I think its fair to say its an open year. If the horse is over its problems then even without a prep run they must be interested in running - especially if it turns up juicy ...
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Eh? How is it a waste running him in the French Derby he is the Criterium International winner.
Remember AOB trains for Coolmore and they do actually breed horses in France [;)] If he won the Prix du Jockey Club the perfect route would be the Prix Neil and Arc after that. |
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They normally keep one for the french middle distance races.
Scorpion / Age of Aquarius both good quality animals that were targeted at French races Really must be behind though, OR they don't quite rate him like we, the wider betting public, do. Who knows... |
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will a good run in irish 2000 see him on the Epsom trail. I wonder
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Lbrokes betting suggests they might aim Fencing Master
at France and Jan at Epsom, the distances would suit their breeding. |
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with Cape Blanco drifting,Jan Vermeer could be a 'definate possible' for Epsom
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PP & laddys both jt shrtist 12s on jan...
also both going 2s sna..when theres plenty on 7/4 mmmmmmmmmmmm  |
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If fit and turns up then this is the winner. Midas for the forecast.
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Jan Vermeer really is a beautifully bred son of Montjeu who looks a fine specimen of a colt. When he won the Criterium International at Saint-Cloud he was most impressive, and that run suggests he'll scope even better with a longer trip.
Don't forget he had the fantastic Midas Touch behind him in his Gowran Park maiden win, giving away 5lbs, a superb performance given how well Midas Touch has come on since then. With only three career starts to date he is well open to more improvement which we will see this season, he is going to be a superstar |
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oooppps wrong account
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e mail aiden .
the derby irish derby king george grand prixde paris arc de triomphe all definite possibles. |
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FFT
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Runs over 10f in a G3 in Ireland over the weekend now. Interesting, still has a chance of lining up in the Derby
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Arc winner imv.
Planteur the danger.  |
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Has got Irish Derby written all over him imo
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If Ballydoyle have so much confidence in SNA, you have to wonder why this chap is even being considered for Epsom.
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Being very shrewd (Coolmore)will never rely on just one horse in a main race like the Derby,remember what happend in '06,they wont take anything for granted in racing,anything can and sometimes does go wrong.
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New favourite come Sunday teatime.
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belmont stakes.
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Impressive stuff
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Impressive indeed.
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not going to Epsom is he?
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Easily the Derby winner that.
Consumate ease. |