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00100-0 Aldermoor (USA) 41 4 - S C Williams 85 SP SP
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3114-6 Arrivederla (IRE) 10 4 - H J L Dunlop 83 SP SP
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0/15500- Big Noise 204 6 - Dr J D Scargill 90 SP SP
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35-2214 Bravo Echo 35 4 - M J Attwater 94 SP SP
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3/1233-4 Cape Rock 10 5 - W J Knight 78 SP SP
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12101-0 Captain Macarry (IRE) 42 5 - J J Quinn 89 SP SP
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10220-1 Castles In The Air 19 5 - R A Fahey 102 SP SP
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44/232-6 Cheviot (USA) 59 4 - M A Jarvis 88 SP SP
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1000-21 Crown Choice 17 5 - W R Swinburn 90 SP SP
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51101-3 Dandy Boy (ITY) 29 4 - David Marnane 92 SP SP
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00040-0 Dhaular Dhar (IRE) 42 8 - J S Goldie 88 SP SP
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2-00613 Dunelight (IRE) 21 7 - C G Cox 106 SP SP
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00-1020 Flipando (IRE) 6 9 - T D Barron 98 SP SP
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11000-0 Golden Desert (IRE) 6 6 - R A Mills 103 SP SP
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13/624-0 Greensward 10 4 - B J Meehan 80 SP SP
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1550-13 Highly Regal (IRE) 10 5 - R A Teal 85 SP SP
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4/66334- Himalya (IRE) 143 4 - J Noseda 108 SP SP
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0000-00 Huzzah (IRE) 21 5 - B W Hills 87 SP SP
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000-222 Internationaldebut (IRE) 19 5 - P T Midgley 89 SP SP
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3140-10 Irish Heartbeat (IRE) 21 5 - R A Fahey 93 SP SP
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52060-3 Kay Gee Be (IRE) 35 6 - W Jarvis 91 SP SP
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00111-1 Mabait 14 4 - L M Cumani 104 SP SP
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2/1100-0 Makaamen 21 4 - B W Hills 95 SP SP
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10001-0 Manassas (IRE) 21 5 - B J Meehan 100 SP SP
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5100-02 Marajaa (IRE) 21 8 - W J Musson 92 SP SP
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33304-0 Mirrored 7 4 - D Nicholls 99 SP SP
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52-1412 New Leyf (IRE) 17 4 - J R Gask 87 SP SP
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20-6653 Noble Citizen (USA) 8 5 - D M Simcock 89 SP SP
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60204-3 One Way Or Another (AUS) 41 7 - J R Gask 92 SP SP
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33025-5 Opus Maximus (IRE) 21 5 - M Johnston 85 SP SP
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120/00-3 Oratory (IRE) 21 4 - R Hannon 91 SP SP
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4132-62 Prime Exhibit 42 5 - R A Fahey 96 SP SP
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004300 Rileyskeepingfaith 6 4 - M R Channon 100 SP SP
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123311- Santefisio 231 4 - P J Makin 83 SP SP
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522006- Signor Peltro 208 7 - H Candy 98 SP SP
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11R402- Spectait 281 8 - Jonjo O'Neill 95 SP SP
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4624-11 Spirit of Sharjah (IRE) 14 5 - Miss J Feilden 102 SP SP
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63440-1 Spitfire 37 5 - J R Jenkins 90 SP SP
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5/2130-1 Splendorinthegrass (IRE) 18 4 - D R Lanigan 98 SP SP
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115- St Moritz (IRE) 384 4 - M Johnston 93 SP SP
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11120-1 Street Power (USA) 22 5 - J R Gask 87 SP SP
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110210- Suruor (IRE) 238 4 - D M Simcock 98 SP SP
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612041 Thebes 8 5 - M Johnston 92 SP SP
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21006-0 Titan Triumph 8 6 - W J Knight 92 SP SP
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21110-0 Wannabe King 21 4 - D R Lanigan 103
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00100-0 Aldermoor (USA) 41 4 - S C Williams 85 SP SP
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3114-6 Arrivederla (IRE) 10 4 - H J L Dunlop 83 SP SP
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0/15500- Big Noise 204 6 - Dr J D Scargill 90 SP SP
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35-2214 Bravo Echo 35 4 - M J Attwater 94 SP SP
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3/1233-4 Cape Rock 10 5 - W J Knight 78 SP SP
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12101-0 Captain Macarry (IRE) 42 5 - J J Quinn 89 SP SP
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10220-1 Castles In The Air 19 5 - R A Fahey 102 SP SP
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44/232-6 Cheviot (USA) 59 4 - M A Jarvis 88 SP SP
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1000-21 Crown Choice 17 5 - W R Swinburn 90 SP SP
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51101-3 Dandy Boy (ITY) 29 4 - David Marnane 92 SP SP
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00040-0 Dhaular Dhar (IRE) 42 8 - J S Goldie 88 SP SP
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2-00613 Dunelight (IRE) 21 7 - C G Cox 106 SP SP
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00-1020 Flipando (IRE) 6 9 - T D Barron 98 SP SP
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11000-0 Golden Desert (IRE) 6 6 - R A Mills 103 SP SP
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13/624-0 Greensward 10 4 - B J Meehan 80 SP SP
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1550-13 Highly Regal (IRE) 10 5 - R A Teal 85 SP SP
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4/66334- Himalya (IRE) 143 4 - J Noseda 108 SP SP
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0000-00 Huzzah (IRE) 21 5 - B W Hills 87 SP SP
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000-222 Internationaldebut (IRE) 19 5 - P T Midgley 89 SP SP
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3140-10 Irish Heartbeat (IRE) 21 5 - R A Fahey 93 SP SP
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52060-3 Kay Gee Be (IRE) 35 6 - W Jarvis 91 SP SP
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00111-1 Mabait 14 4 - L M Cumani 104 SP SP
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2/1100-0 Makaamen 21 4 - B W Hills 95 SP SP
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10001-0 Manassas (IRE) 21 5 - B J Meehan 100 SP SP
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5100-02 Marajaa (IRE) 21 8 - W J Musson 92 SP SP
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33304-0 Mirrored 7 4 - D Nicholls 99 SP SP
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52-1412 New Leyf (IRE) 17 4 - J R Gask 87 SP SP
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20-6653 Noble Citizen (USA) 8 5 - D M Simcock 89 SP SP
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60204-3 One Way Or Another (AUS) 41 7 - J R Gask 92 SP SP
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33025-5 Opus Maximus (IRE) 21 5 - M Johnston 85 SP SP
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120/00-3 Oratory (IRE) 21 4 - R Hannon 91 SP SP
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4132-62 Prime Exhibit 42 5 - R A Fahey 96 SP SP
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004300 Rileyskeepingfaith 6 4 - M R Channon 100 SP SP
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123311- Santefisio 231 4 - P J Makin 83 SP SP
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522006- Signor Peltro 208 7 - H Candy 98 SP SP
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11R402- Spectait 281 8 - Jonjo O'Neill 95 SP SP
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4624-11 Spirit of Sharjah (IRE) 14 5 - Miss J Feilden 102 SP SP
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63440-1 Spitfire 37 5 - J R Jenkins 90 SP SP
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5/2130-1 Splendorinthegrass (IRE) 18 4 - D R Lanigan 98 SP SP
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115- St Moritz (IRE) 384 4 - M Johnston 93 SP SP
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11120-1 Street Power (USA) 22 5 - J R Gask 87 SP SP
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110210- Suruor (IRE) 238 4 - D M Simcock 98 SP SP
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612041 Thebes 8 5 - M Johnston 92 SP SP
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21006-0 Titan Triumph 8 6 - W J Knight 92 SP SP
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21110-0 Wannabe King 21 4 - D R Lanigan 103
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Where's this T0TE betting they reckon they've priced up..?
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totesport Victoria Cup sponsors bet: 5 Mabait, 10 Castles In The Air, 12 Prime Exhibit, 14 Irish Heartbeat, 16 Big Noise, Himalya, Kay Gee Be, Oratory, Spirit Of Shajah, Suruor, Thebes, 20 Advanced, Arrivederla, Cheviot, Crown Choice, Dhaular Dhar, Dunelight, Makaamen, Marajaa, One Way Or Another, Signor Peltro, Splendorinthegrass, Street Power, Wannabe King, 25 Bravo Echo, Flipando, Highly Regal, Huzzah, Internationaldebut, Manassas, New Leyf, Santefisio, Spectait, Spitfire, Titan Triumph, 33 Aldermoor, Cape Rock, Captain Macarry, Golden Desert, Greensward, Mirrored, Noble Citizen, Opus Maximus, Rileyskeepingfaith.
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going to back one horse every 5 stalls so i have the draw covered
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:^0............................i always do ;\
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Where'd ya find that? Been checking their website still not showing.
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prices will be up from 9am tom i would of thought rhino
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http://www.racingbase.com/category/Racing-News/Victoria-Cup-and-Swinton-Handicap-Hurdle-betting-with-totesport-201005030048/
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Got a couple in mind,keepin schtum at the mo though ;\
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why?
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This favourite is going to start ridiculously short... :|
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Going to wait and see what the other books have to say,and betfair more to the point,defo got one in this.
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tt has only one live bullet left for the remainder of the flat season so needs to trend carefully :^0
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It would be nice to be able to lay it.
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Cheers nib.
I don't think the fav will run Steaky. |
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Going to wait and see what the other books have to say,and betfair more to the point,defo got one in this.
You may be disappointed |
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:(
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Nibb,fo
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Send them an email. They may put it up.
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Castles In The Air is interesting.
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Crown Choice sniff
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prime exhibit 4me. super run lto
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Trends for the past 10 runnings (1999-2009):
AGE (Win-Place-Runners) 4yo: 6-11-92 5yo: 3-10-69 6yo: 1-6-37 7yo+: 0-3-32 9 of 10 winners were aged 4 or 5 4yos have won 6 of the last 10 runnings from just 40% of the total runners. Horses aged 6+ have managed just 1 win and 9 places from 69 runners in the past 10 years. Advice is to stick with the younger horses. WEIGHT (Win-Place-Runners) Horses carrying 9-0 or more: 2-16-94 Horses carrying 8-7 to 8-13: 6-8-72 Horses carrying 8-6 or less: 2-6-64 6 of 10 winners carried 8-7 to 8-13 and they represented just 31.3% of the runners. OFFICIAL RATINGS Horses rated 97 to 109: 1-9-48 Horses rated 84 to 96: 7-17-148 Horses rated 71 to 83: 2-4-34 5 of the last 6 winners have been officially rated between 90 and 99. That range has also accounted for the 20 of the 24 places in the last 6 years. RECENT/PAST FORM 9 of 10 winners had won over 7F+ 8 of 10 winners had run in past 40 days 7 of 10 winners ran in a class 2 or higher last time 7 of 10 winners won a race worth 9K+ 6 of 10 winners won at class 3 or higher TRAINERS David Barron (1-2-4) has found and Michael Jarvis (1-2-5) have both gained a win and 2 places from not many runners in this past 10 runnings. Brian Meehan (1-0-4), Barry Hills (1-0-12) and Dandy Nicholls (1-0-13) have each trained the winner in the past 10 years. Ed Dunlop (0-2-6) and John Akehurst (0-2-7) have each filled a couple of places in the past decade. DRAW (ignore 2005 race at Lingfield) Horses drawn 1 to 9: 1-12-81 Horses drawn 10 to 20: 6-12-97 Horses drawn 21 or higher: 2-3-34 6 of the last 7 runnings of this race at Ascot have been won by a horse drawn in stalls 10 to 16. PRICE 5 of 10 winners were priced 14/1 to 33/1 No very strong trend on prices with 5 of the last 10 coming from the first 5 in the betting and then the other 5 were priced 14/1 or bigger. Favourites (3-3-12) have gained 3 wins in the past ten years, giving a level stakes profit of 2.75. SUMMARY: Based on the trends from the past 10 runnings you are looking for a horse: · Aged 4 or 5 · Carrying 8-7 to 8-13 · Officially rated 90 to 99 · Won over 7F+ · Ran a class 2 or higher last time out · Run in past 40 days · Drawn 10 to 16 · Trained by Michael Jarvis or David Barron |
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This isn't very interesting is it?
Have it between the Fahey pair and the favourite. Anybody want to make up my mind? |
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I like Mabait. He's the one i'm thinking of for this race, but i'll need to check other horses out a bit more.
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Just noticed he's favourite, so not much of a pick. Does anyone know if he will run ?
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Few e.w quid on Brave Echo @ 40's and 33's.
Always thought he was a decent horse who wanted a (very) fast run uphill 7f (like i'd seen him win over at Leicester as a 2 yr old).Good ground would be fine or a bit softer rather than firmer. God knows who'll handle the ground on the day or where the best draw is so happy to risk a smallish bet at a huge price just in case the Ascot lottery falls my horses way. |
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Great stuff racecaller, Makaamen and Oratory hit on every requirement.
Brave Echo, Thebes and Noble Citizen only let down by the draw. |
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would not be taking those draw stats as gospel meself
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Prime Exhibit seems sure to go well but isn't much of a price. One Way Or Another is another I like. Thebes and Noble Citizen are closely matched on their last run so Noble Citizen looks appealing at the prices.
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Spent a couple of hours looking through this earlier and think I might have found one that's a bit of value in Makaamen.
Trends wise he's a good fit; 4yo 8-13 OR93 Won over 7f Class 2 lto Last run 21 days ago Drawn 13 One of, if not the, least exposed in the field he lost his way slightly towards the end of last year after making a very promising start. Debut 2nd behind Evasive with the now 98 rated Infiraad in 3rd as the stables second string on the day reads pretty well. Followed up with a comfortable success when odds on in his maiden the following year. First time in handicap company he won off a mark of 90, by over a length, giving 6lb to the now 103 rated 2nd Wannabe King and 3lb to the 102 rated Fareer. After that he disapointed in heavy ground at Haydock in May before being off for 5 months and coming back and disapointing again at York. His season ended there but he returned last month in the Spring Cup at Newbury which turned into a very messy race and he got no sort of run at all. He was keen at the start of the race and then for the entire second half he had no room at all and Richard Hills was very easy on him throughout as he was never in the race. Just the outing will have brought him on though and the handicapper has also dropped him 2lb for it. Tadhg O'Shea riding this time who won on him in the handicap last year. A lot of exposed and/or average sorts in this but maybe Makaamen is won of few who potentially has a lot of improvement left in him. 25/1 at the moment best odds guarenteed. Savers on Fahey's two and the fav'. GL |
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I can see your angle on Makaamen benjy, he is on my shortlist. I have backed Mabait and Dhaular Dhar at 6 and 33 with Billys. I started the season with Mabait as one of my follow till it loses horses and though I hate myself for taking 6s in a race like this I'd hate myself if it won unsupported. As for DD well it has the history, seems well enough in and a reasonable enough draw. Added to my current love affair with the yard that persuaded me despite the age angle.
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Wasn't somebody else really keen on Makaamen? But the post seems to have been lost in the forum switchover.
25/1, 5 places, NRNB at b365 btw. |
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Yeah,me.
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TT...TBF your keen on all men
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Signing in another Makaamen fan. Form red hot from newbury last year and didn't get a run at all last time when seemed to be going very well.
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yeah i'm in for makka...was top trends fit and benjy made a nice case above..thats me done betting on this now though.
mabait 6/1 signor peltro e/w 20s makka e/w 25/1 5 pl bs. orator 12/1. |
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but trev - what about the winner ?
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plat..always room for 1 more if i like what chew gota say
 is it huzzah by any chance...noticed last yr he took 2 runs before his big run behind forgotten t.@ ascot...now 9lbs lower iirc.. |