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If Cape Blanco is starting off in the Dante they must see him as a Derby horse ( but which Derby ? )
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The Epsom Derby.
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Should we back him ( PD ) ?
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Did APOB mention stanjames.com in all of his quotes? :p
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O' Brien sent 6 runners to last years derby, so i'd imagine the Derby is a logical target for Cape Blanco amongst others.
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You could Push,they do think he has a chance,SNA will be given every chance in the GNS if he wins that then odds on for Epsom,But if he dosen't win the GNS then Epsom will be up for anyone as then the TC chance is over thats why Cape Blanco is going down route of the Dante,a bit like running both Hawk Wing and High Chapperal,BUT IF SNA does win the GNS and then looks like winning the Derby dont be surprised to see Cape Blanco looking like he's trying to win but he wont really as they will be under instructions to let SNA win,then they will say CB did not stay the trip and go for the races like the Eclipse.
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That depends on St Nicholas Abbey Graeme, if he's as good as they think then they'll only run him and a couple of pacemakers imv. He's only been mob handed in the years where he hasnt had an obvious Derby horse, this year he most definitely has.
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Fencing Master might be the one for the Eclipse .)
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Amaru - what would they do if they didn't know if SNA was better than Jan Vermeer. I'm not one of the most knowledgeable posters, and whilst i realise that SNA is apparently the main horse, i think Jan Vermeer could be as good as anything they have.
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SNA won't have pacemakers in the Derby, very sure of that.
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I think Ben10 is right but he will have them at NMKT.
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Thats fair enough Graeme and I aint gonna knock you for thinking that Jan Vermeer could be the better as he looks very promising.
Prima Donna made a good point about St Nicholas Abbey and the Guineas. Should he win then they aint gonna risk one of their own beating him in the Derby and foil a Triple Crown bid. That said, I dont see him having many other runners in the Derby other than St Nicholas Abbey should he lose at Newmarket as he's going to be much better suited to the mile and a half of the Derby anyway and a defeat in the Guineas doesnt mean he wont win the Derby. Why dont you think there'll be pacemakers Ben? |
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He has such a good turn of foot and we've seen him quicken to terrific effect off a slow pace as a two year old. If they go steady and he's good enough then he'll easily out sprint them in the race to the line.
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Maybe Jan Vermeer will just stick to french classics just now. I guess it's just a waiting game.
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Coolmore could well run "pacemakers" to slow it down in front?
Ran a hatfull last year but didnt set a searching gallop because of concern of Rip getting the trip. |
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Fair enough Ben, I suppose it may depend on the opposition to a certain extent as if theres a suspect stayer amongst the dangers then they may look to stretch the said horses stamina but I can see your angle.
I think wait and see is the only thing you can do Graeme. |
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You mean like they tried to test STS stamina in the Derby ? FFS.
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Anyone know what's happened to Joshua Tree?
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Mr O'Brien has a serious sprinter on his hands in Starspangledbanner.
Has form slightly better than his old man (Choisir) did when he went across and should only improve leaving Corstens for O'Brien. Assume he will go to the Golden Jubilee and should be winning it. |
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geoffm is spot on they will run pacemakers but only to steady the pace
as they tried to do for rip van winkle . they know if its a sprint finish there is only one winner s.n.a. |