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Daz7
27 Feb 23 17:25
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Just seen the news
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-64665705

Ok so I know there is only one greyhound track in Wales (Valley Greyhounds), but this is due to become a GBGB licenced track by January 2024.
The arguments for banning the sport are weak and seemingly based on a flimsy petition. In my opinion, this is gesture politics at its worst, but should it be successful couldn't it lead to pressure on other sports, and wouldn't it bring the banning of greyhound racing across the UK a step closer?

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By:
casemoney
When: 27 Feb 23 19:16
Shocking
By:
casemoney
When: 27 Feb 23 21:12
England Left   Sad But for how long till the Woke sh1thouses  Make their move ?
By:
casemoney
When: 27 Feb 23 21:58
The public will be asked their views on banning greyhound racing in a Welsh government consultation.

It follows a petition signed by 35,000 people calling for an end to the sport in the country.

The RSPCA said it was a "huge moment" for dog welfare.

A Welsh government spokesperson said ministers will consider "next steps" after a debate in March. A greyhound racing body said the sport places dog welfare "as its highest priority".

There is only one greyhound race track remaining in Wales, in Ystrad Mynach.

In a Welsh government response to a petitions committee report on the issue, ministers said they will hold a consultation on "proposals for the licensing of activities involving animals later this year".

It confirmed a "question considering a phased ban will be included" in the exercise.

"The outcome of the consultation and what action will be taken cannot be pre-empted," the government said, adding it will also seek views on how to improve the welfare of racing greyhounds in Wales.

Ministers accepted all of the committee's recommendations, bar one calling for ministers to look at other sports where animals compete.
By:
Winja
When: 28 Feb 23 00:56
there is a petition being generated that supports greyhound racing in wales and everyone needs to sign if they want to show solidarity with the sport.....you dont have to be welsh either...

petitions.senedd.wales/petitions/245373
By:
casemoney
When: 28 Feb 23 01:13
Cant see any other part of UK on it Winja
By:
casemoney
When: 28 Feb 23 01:30
Signed with a Dublin post code
By:
Winja
When: 28 Feb 23 08:59
you do not have to be welsh it is an internationally available document that will stay live until August 23.....i signed it a few days ago using genuine information the only thing you have to give is a working email address and you will receive an email from them to confirm the email address is genuine then the vote counts....
By:
Daz7
When: 28 Feb 23 09:00
Yes just found the petition

https://petitions.senedd.wales/petitions/245373

Looking at the petition that called for a ban, 35k signed it but only 19k came from Wales!

Important for all greyhound enthusiasts to get behind this it needs our support. I've signed.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 28 Feb 23 17:25
Signed.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 28 Feb 23 17:47
And passed on to others.  3,000 + at present - many more needed.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 28 Feb 23 21:38
3,274
15,000 needed at least.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 02 Mar 23 16:24
SIGNED.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 02 Mar 23 16:51
4,023.  A lot more still needed.
By:
now wheres that switch!!!
When: 02 Mar 23 18:17
signed!
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 02 Mar 23 18:55
Signed.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 03 Mar 23 14:02
4,274.

Greyhound Data now involved and promoting the petition.

We should all keep trying after we have signed to recruit more signees.

This can easily be done.
By:
now wheres that switch!!!
When: 03 Mar 23 15:43
Switch household all signed it
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 03 Mar 23 16:32
Not sure if the " Greyhound Scene " folk know about this. ?
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 03 Mar 23 21:18
Well done all.  I have just emailed the IGB pr/media department and appraised them of the situation, just in case they were unaware.  I feel sure they could bring in another 4,000 names and greatly boost the effort.
4,376.
By:
now wheres that switch!!!
When: 04 Mar 23 10:45
Dont understand how 10,000 cant be reached. All the trainers plus owners and kennel staff up and down the country must be somewhere near that number alongside the racing offices and track staff.
By:
sparrow
When: 04 Mar 23 19:13
Signed just now which makes 4,844 in total.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 04 Mar 23 21:47
Good lad.  It's coming along.  I read that 15,000 votes in a petition guarantees a debate in the Welsh house whereas 10,000 allows for one to be requested.  Did I read wrong?  Wouldn;t be the first time.
By:
sparrow
When: 04 Mar 23 22:16
All information for petitions to the Welsh Government is contained in the following link.


https://petitions.senedd.wales/help
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 05 Mar 23 11:31
The petition passed 5,000 signatures overnight. It is currently attracting support more than twice as quickly as the antis' petition ever did. Thank you for your help in spreading the word.
petitions.senedd.wales/petitions/245373


Taken from Greyhound scene.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 06 Mar 23 05:17
Delighted to take part and be of assistance.
By:
Daz7
When: 07 Mar 23 15:39
Well done everyone - 5972 signatures to date.
By:
Daz7
When: 09 Mar 23 09:01
Up to 6461 this morning. Still feel we need to match the 35k signatures of the ban-greyhound racing petition.

If you haven't yet signed - please sign. Very simple and you don't have to live in Wales.

https://petitions.senedd.wales/petitions/245373
By:
Daz7
When: 10 Mar 23 09:44
Just to update - the ban proposed for Wales was discussed in the Senedd on wednesday.

It's an interesting read but I just find it incredible how uneducated those in power in Wales are about greyhound racing...

https://record.senedd.wales/Plenary/13262#C490421
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 10 Mar 23 10:42
It's not that surprising really.  Let's be frank and honest - we have no promotion strategy at all so how would people know anything about it or how we run it.  Our welfare initiatives are impressive but it is all defensive isn't it.  We are a very insular sport and, like it or not, other than bookmakers we have almost no allies whatsoever.  How we change that I don;t profess to know but we could start by having someone produce material outlining all we do and giving it to each and every MP.  Then they might at least have an idea.
By:
sparrow
When: 10 Mar 23 15:01
Welsh debate plus GBGB reaction

THE Senedd debate over the possible phasing out of greyhound racing in Wales took place on Wednesday afternoon, writes Paul Brown.

It opened with an address from Jack Sargeant MS, chair of the Petitions Committee that put forward the proposal, where he reiterated the call for a ban to be adopted.

Most who spoke were in favour of the ban eventually coming into force, with James Evans MS and Joel James MS speaking against.

Lesley Griffiths, Minister for Rural Affairs in the Welsh government, noted the petition and said she wished to work from a stronger evidence base with a view to publishing a consultation at the end of 2023.

She said that all options are on the table and the government would only take a view after considering the responses to the consultation.

The Senedd debate coincided with the publication of an extensive report by the Scottish Animal Welfare Commission on the welfare of greyhounds used for racing in Scotland.

With Shawfield closed since 2020 and unlikely to reopen, the only greyhound venue currently operating in Scotland is independent Thornton in Fife, which was visited for the report.

In conclusion, the Commission decided on balance that a ban on greyhound racing would be desirable: “We recommend that no further new greyhound tracks are permitted in Scotland.

“We are not convinced that any of the current proposed measures can safeguard greyhound welfare appropriately and believe that this will help to reduce suffering in Scotland.”

GBGB statement

Responding to Wednesday’s Senedd debate in relation to the recent Petitions Committee report, Mark Bird, CEO of the Greyhound Board of Great Britain (GBGB), said:

“We note today’s debate and thank those Senedd Members who have willingly and openly engaged with us and have been open to hearing all sides of the debate. Animal welfare is an emotive issue and animal activist campaigners are extremely well funded and well organised to target those who do not share their agenda. So we thank those publicly speaking out against this for encouraging balance in the debate.

“What is clear from today’s debate is that inaccurate, unevidenced and misleading information has been shared with Senedd Members in advance of the proceedings. Whilst we accept that people will hold their own opinions, we believe all such debate should rely on robust data and evidence rather than myths and generalisations.

“We strongly welcome the Minister’s assertion therefore that, as we would all hope and expect, any subsequent consultation must be carried out in a reasoned and appropriate way, based on evidence. This is clearly a wider consultation on animal welfare and should be considered as such, rather than allowing the agendas of some activists to steal headlines through untruths and thus unduly influence policy. The role of this consultation must be to remove the emotion, innuendo and myth and look at what is genuinely both in the best interests of animals and consistent across all animal welfare issues.

“To suggest that greyhound racing stands apart from other popular activities involving animals – whether horseracing, show jumping, gymkanas or dogs shows, let alone working dogs and livestock – is naïve. Our view of course remains that greater regulation of greyhound racing in Wales is the right and obvious way to protect welfare and we will continue to work with Members and officials in whatever way we can towards securing this.”
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 10 Mar 23 19:52
“We are not convinced that any of the current proposed measures can safeguard greyhound welfare appropriately and believe that this will help to reduce suffering in Scotland.”

This is frightening stuff because it highlights an already entrenched view that greyhound racing is cruel.
The game is in deep trouble in my view unless someone comes out fighting.  And sadly that doesn't seem likely from where I am watching.
By:
sparrow
When: 10 Mar 23 20:20
Not having followed this as closely as others I was a little surprised at the response with regard to the situation in Scotland. It all makes depressing reading when considering the future.
By:
casemoney
When: 10 Mar 23 20:37
If it were purely Down to a Public Vote Would be no Dog Racing in the UK

As Loyal Says an already entrenched view that greyhound racing is cruel.
By:
sparrow
When: 10 Mar 23 20:54
I might be a little out of touch these days but I don't see much of a defence being put up against this so called cruelty. We know there was there a great deal of bad publicity coming from flapping tracks some time ago but they are nearly all gone now so why are the people in control coming out a and making the case?
By:
sparrow
When: 10 Mar 23 20:56
* not coming out and making the case.
By:
casemoney
When: 10 Mar 23 21:26
We have had some bad Headlines over the years Sparrow, unfortunately with the General Public and this sport that's what they look at ,we know the love in the sport but

The antis paint a terrible picture that gets Most of the Attention
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 11 Mar 23 03:08
Sunderland did us in.
By:
Winja
When: 11 Mar 23 09:57
it looks like that debate was in response to the banning petition and common sense has prevailed with Lesley Griffiths in the knowledge there is a counter petition which runs until August has kept her powder dry until the end of the year when a full understanding of both sides will be available......therefore it is important that the supporting petition continues to grow and hopefully it will at least match if not surpass the one already received.......
By:
Winja
When: 11 Mar 23 10:51
Current tally 6728..
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