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Some Great Memories on there Sparrow brings a tear to the eye to see some of the old tracks and the Champ going into Overdive
Crowds Ei Ei ing a dog who is 50 yds behind
The like will never be seen Again 
Just glad I seen him a few Times
I swear he Got the Lines Mixed up in the Dorando Was in front at the Derby line
Crowds Ei Ei ing a dog who is 50 yds behind
The like will never be seen Again Just glad I seen him a few Times I swear he Got the Lines Mixed up in the Dorando Was in front at the Derby line
First time I have seen this DVD with a few races I hadn't seen before. I always loved that Ramsgate run considering it was his first time there as well. We will never see his likes again thats for sure.
How the **** did he find them gaps it never gets boring watching him race
it never gets boring watching him race
But if he Got Stopped Would Take off Again Never went to Ramsgate Sparrow looked a nice enough Track think it was on bags for a while 
Never went to Ramsgate Sparrow looked a nice enough Track think it was on bags for a while
That was what you Called a Derby Night Final Under the Lights at 10 or There Abouts , No fooker would leave with the Champ still to Come
Look at this Bollox we have been left with ,Make sure its on Nice and Early for a few Lunatics Who are playing the Slots in the Shops
U CANNOT Fooking make it up ................ For the first time in my Derby History , I had even forgot they done the Draw today ,Only realised
When some put it up on the Derby thread .. Unreal TBH
Look at this Bollox we have been left with ,Make sure its on Nice and Early for a few Lunatics Who are playing the Slots in the Shops
U CANNOT Fooking make it up ................ For the first time in my Derby History , I had even forgot they done the Draw today ,Only realised
When some put it up on the Derby thread .. Unreal TBH
Thanks Sparrow , most enjoyable viewing and took me back to my youth at several of those tracks , particularly Catford . I think Ray Cross had him at Beeston for recuperation during one of his off periods . Also good to see George Curtis , remembered from Glin Bridge days and at the Saxby's .
bit insulting comparing mick the miller with scurlogue champ when ballyregan bob is clearly the better
Bob was a super Dog , But Champ pulled the Crowds No way 10,000 would have Turned up at wembley to see bob against any other Dog
No way 10,000 would have Turned up at wembley to see bob against any other Dog
We have to rely on our elders with regard to Mick the Miller and my father who saw him win both finals would have preferred Pigalle Wonder who I actually saw win the Derby in 1958.
PIGALLE WONDER, by Champion Prince out of the famous dam Prairie Peg, was bred and reared in Co. Kilkenny by Tom Murphy, who originally named him Prairie Champion. A brindle, he rivalled Future Cutlet and Endless Gossip in his appearance; with his sleek, graceful lines he looked every inch a champion and, like those other winners of the premier Classic, would have taken all before him on the show bench.
Whelped in March 1956, he ran his first race at Kilkenny in a heat for the famous McCalmont Cup on 10 October 1957, which he won by ten lengths in 29.80sec; he went on to win the final, showing just how good he was when only eighteen months old. He was bought by Al Burnett, owner of the Pigalle Club in London, after clocking 29.10sec in a 525yds trial at Harolds Cross and he was renamed Pigalle Wonder.
He was indeed a wonder and, during a career which lasted three years, won almost £8,000 in prize money, when £1,500 was awarded to the Derby winner but he earned considerably more than that sum at stud. Wherever he ran, his fantastic speed and track sense drew the crowds as no greyhounds had done since Mick the Miller and Monday’s News.
He was a law unto himself, handsome, with a sharp intelligence and capable of amazing speed from the traps; in addition he never knew when he was beaten, which he rarely was. All tracks came alike to him and he set new track records on seven of the most important courses in Britain. His 28.44sec run made in his Derby semi-final stood until Yellow Printer did 28.30sec in 1968, ten years later.
He was placed with Jim Syder Jnr at Wembley and his first big event was the 1958 Derby. He won his second round heat and semi-final (in which he set the track record) and went on to win the final by three lengths from Northern Lad, with Mile Bush Pride, winner the following year, a neck behind in third. He had started 4-5 favourite and, in the first photo-timed Derby, his time of 28.65sec was less than two lengths slower than Endless Gossip’s hand timed 28.50sec.
His next contest was the Pall Mall at Harringay, which he also won comfortably, and his time of 29.03sec for 525yds was not beaten while the event was run over that distance until Local Motive clocked 28.86sec ten years later. This time stood until the distance was changed to metres in 1975.
Showing himself outstanding over middle distances, Pigalle Wonder was to end a wonderful year by dead-heating with Rylane Pleasure for the Cesarewitch. That year on every track he raced he set new records, his 28.78sec for 525yds at Wembley on 26 May 1958 stood for almost twenty years until the distance was changed to metres and, even today, would be most special.
His last race was at Shelbourne Park on 13 August 1960 when, in the final of the Irish Derby, which he reached by running up to Perry’s Apple in his semi-final, he was again beaten by the same greyhound after running into trouble at the first bend. But he was then four and a half years old and had done enough to ensure that his name was to occupy a top place in the Hall of Fame.
His longer term career was only just beginning, though, he still had nearly ten years at stud, during which time his influence on modern greyhound racing was to prove considerable.
Early in 1963 Mr Burnett sold his champion to stand at stud in Ireland, for the then amazing sum of £3,500, the highest price ever paid for a dog whose racing career was over. Pigalle Wonder must have earnt his new owner many times that sum and he was to become as famous as a sire as he was when racing.
It was as a sire of bitches that Pigalle Wonder, like Brilliant Bob twenty years earlier, was to become famous, for it was mostly through the dams he produced that his own phenomenal speed and track- craft were perpetuated. He himself had several of the greatest dams in his pedigree and was well equipped to pass on their wonderful qualities. Only Macoma and Brilliant Bob in earlier years and The Grand Fire and Pigalle Wonder of the 1950s and 1960s passed on their own superb qualities through the female line through the many bitches they served.
One of Pigalle Wonder’s finest offspring, however, and one of his first, was a dog and he was to perpetuate his sire’s outstanding qualities on the track and later to transmit them to his own offspring. His name was Wonder Valley, the winner of the Irish Derby. Wonder Valley has also left a great impression on the coursing field. The winner, Kyle Guest, and runner-up Ballyard Jumbo, of the Irish Coursing Derby run at Clonmel in 1979 both descended from Wonder Valley and likewise the winner and runner-up for the Coursing Oaks, won by Little Treasure.
Both she and Kyle Guest were sired by Wonder Valley’s outstanding son Woodford General.
If one had to name the greatest racing greyhounds in the history of the sport, taking into consideration all things – racing ability, appearance and performance as a sire – near the top of the tree must be Pigalle Wonder. He died during the first days of January 1969 aged nearly thirteen and lucky indeed are those who saw him in his hey-day.
Whelped in March 1956, he ran his first race at Kilkenny in a heat for the famous McCalmont Cup on 10 October 1957, which he won by ten lengths in 29.80sec; he went on to win the final, showing just how good he was when only eighteen months old. He was bought by Al Burnett, owner of the Pigalle Club in London, after clocking 29.10sec in a 525yds trial at Harolds Cross and he was renamed Pigalle Wonder.
He was indeed a wonder and, during a career which lasted three years, won almost £8,000 in prize money, when £1,500 was awarded to the Derby winner but he earned considerably more than that sum at stud. Wherever he ran, his fantastic speed and track sense drew the crowds as no greyhounds had done since Mick the Miller and Monday’s News.
He was a law unto himself, handsome, with a sharp intelligence and capable of amazing speed from the traps; in addition he never knew when he was beaten, which he rarely was. All tracks came alike to him and he set new track records on seven of the most important courses in Britain. His 28.44sec run made in his Derby semi-final stood until Yellow Printer did 28.30sec in 1968, ten years later.
He was placed with Jim Syder Jnr at Wembley and his first big event was the 1958 Derby. He won his second round heat and semi-final (in which he set the track record) and went on to win the final by three lengths from Northern Lad, with Mile Bush Pride, winner the following year, a neck behind in third. He had started 4-5 favourite and, in the first photo-timed Derby, his time of 28.65sec was less than two lengths slower than Endless Gossip’s hand timed 28.50sec.
His next contest was the Pall Mall at Harringay, which he also won comfortably, and his time of 29.03sec for 525yds was not beaten while the event was run over that distance until Local Motive clocked 28.86sec ten years later. This time stood until the distance was changed to metres in 1975.
Showing himself outstanding over middle distances, Pigalle Wonder was to end a wonderful year by dead-heating with Rylane Pleasure for the Cesarewitch. That year on every track he raced he set new records, his 28.78sec for 525yds at Wembley on 26 May 1958 stood for almost twenty years until the distance was changed to metres and, even today, would be most special.
His last race was at Shelbourne Park on 13 August 1960 when, in the final of the Irish Derby, which he reached by running up to Perry’s Apple in his semi-final, he was again beaten by the same greyhound after running into trouble at the first bend. But he was then four and a half years old and had done enough to ensure that his name was to occupy a top place in the Hall of Fame.
His longer term career was only just beginning, though, he still had nearly ten years at stud, during which time his influence on modern greyhound racing was to prove considerable.
Early in 1963 Mr Burnett sold his champion to stand at stud in Ireland, for the then amazing sum of £3,500, the highest price ever paid for a dog whose racing career was over. Pigalle Wonder must have earnt his new owner many times that sum and he was to become as famous as a sire as he was when racing.
It was as a sire of bitches that Pigalle Wonder, like Brilliant Bob twenty years earlier, was to become famous, for it was mostly through the dams he produced that his own phenomenal speed and track- craft were perpetuated. He himself had several of the greatest dams in his pedigree and was well equipped to pass on their wonderful qualities. Only Macoma and Brilliant Bob in earlier years and The Grand Fire and Pigalle Wonder of the 1950s and 1960s passed on their own superb qualities through the female line through the many bitches they served.
One of Pigalle Wonder’s finest offspring, however, and one of his first, was a dog and he was to perpetuate his sire’s outstanding qualities on the track and later to transmit them to his own offspring. His name was Wonder Valley, the winner of the Irish Derby. Wonder Valley has also left a great impression on the coursing field. The winner, Kyle Guest, and runner-up Ballyard Jumbo, of the Irish Coursing Derby run at Clonmel in 1979 both descended from Wonder Valley and likewise the winner and runner-up for the Coursing Oaks, won by Little Treasure.
Both she and Kyle Guest were sired by Wonder Valley’s outstanding son Woodford General.
If one had to name the greatest racing greyhounds in the history of the sport, taking into consideration all things – racing ability, appearance and performance as a sire – near the top of the tree must be Pigalle Wonder. He died during the first days of January 1969 aged nearly thirteen and lucky indeed are those who saw him in his hey-day.
Yes but it would not have ran under 30 secs at Towcester
Might have won an A4 at that gaff
Might have won an A4 at that gaff
Towcester would have been lucky to have been classed as a flapping track in 1958, ravage.
Biggest error they made was the 8 dog business , they had the Template at Coventry could have ended up with a Super track .
There has been a catalogue of "errors" case and my nominations are bookmaker control in the early 1960s and the management of the GRA from the mid to late 60s to the present day. In fact the GRA has wrecked the sport with its property and land sell offs.
Reminds me of going to see the Champ at Nottingham and then the following month at Derby, particularly memorable was the announcement over the tannoy something along the lines of ..I feel duty bound to let everyone know that there has been a phone call saying there is a bomb due to go off, so it’s up to you what to do”
Everybody was lined round the track and nobody moved !
Champ ran and did the clock as usual
Everybody was lined round the track and nobody moved !
Champ ran and did the clock as usual
i've got 2 80x60 framed sketches 0f Ballyregan Bob and Scurlogue Champ signed by Monica Long 1987 hanging on my living room wall, see them every day.cheers.
@ Lester ,Brilliant I was only referring to Tow Sparrow , you are spot on mate
Yes case I realise that now but its just when anyone mentions errors in this sport I automatically think of the GRA etc.
I have a Vic Granger print of Linacre , been watching me sleep for last 40+ years .
brilliant comment about the bomb scare at derby!
regarding the GRA - well they proper ruined it. They should have sold Wimbledon for housing and bought Hackney from the receivers in 96-97. then they had the best running track at a brand new stadium.
Imagine the derby at hackney.
regarding the GRA - well they proper ruined it. They should have sold Wimbledon for housing and bought Hackney from the receivers in 96-97. then they had the best running track at a brand new stadium.
Imagine the derby at hackney.
paulo47, I remember Linacre I'm sure I saw it running at Powderhall and winning the Edinburgh cup, also remember the horse of the same name around 1963-64 I'm sure it was trained by Paddy Prendergast, think it ran 2nd in the Eclipse. cheers.
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