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seeing as this about England and not Ireland that I have seen sherrys prince yankee express and the hawk
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Would agree with Westmead Hawk and Sherrys Prince, wedge.
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great thread some super dogs there memories
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sparrow u obviously love your dogs sound like someone i would love to have a pint with to reminisce about the good old days
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Trouble is shiner that unfortunately it's all in the distant past. The information thankfully is still available for us to see and I'm old enough to remember most of the dogs mentioned. I will keep finding stuff to post whilst the lockdown continues.
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Great read well done
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Before my time but surely Patricias Hope should get a mention being a dual Derby winner?
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woodmanchester
28 Apr 20 13:08 Joined: 25 Aug 11 | Topic/replies: 29,818 | Blogger: woodmanchester's blog Before my time but surely Patricias Hope should get a mention being a dual Derby winner? 5) PATRICIAS HOPE (Silver Hope-Patsicia) July 1970 Trainer John O’Connor & Adam Jackson Owners Stanley,Marks,O’Connor One of three Double English Derby winners, Patricia’s also landed the Triple Crown by capturing the Scottish and Welsh deciders – on two of the occasions beating the perennial bridesmaid Super Rory. In the second Derby he also landed a massive gamble – he was 33-1 ante post. Not heavily raced he also finished runner-up in the Anglo Irish and also contested a Pall Mall Final. |
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woody.....................Perhaps a visit to the opticians will be your first call after the lockdown ends.
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Ignore him sparrow, he is just a covid 19 coont
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I know it's personal but surely Some Picture has got to rate the best 4 bender, my favourite dog though was Dusty Trail, the fastest dog I had seen live at the time, never forgot it, cheers.
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So many great dogs over the years that it's very difficult to limit ourselves to 10, but Some Picture would be an obvious candidate for many. My candidate for further consideration would be the great Yellow Printer an Irish Derby winner who didn't always have the best of luck over here.
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you are right again sparrow, it is impossible to name the best dog, only your personal favs, one dog I bet in the English derby was called Ivy Hall Flash, bet it ante-post, it was trained by an Irish trainer called Kane, can't remember his first name, followed it all the way to the final it was fav, but it ran 4th I think, I'm not certain but I think Dolores Rocket won the race, it was so exciting in those days, the anticipation was almost unbearable when I think back. cheers.
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Kane was trained by Paddy Keane it seems who I of course remember at my local track Clapton and for me the best trainer of my lifetime.
Position Name of Greyhound Breeding Trap SP Time Trainer 1st Dolores Rocket Newdown Heather - Come On Dolores 2 11-4 28.74 Herbert White (Private) 2nd Supreme Fun Newdown Heather - Top Note 6 6-1 28.80 Sid Ryall (Private) 3rd Leap and Run Booked Out - Aubawns Dream 3 3-1 28.84 John Bassett (Private) 4th Moordyk Champion Monalee Champion - Nelsons Farewell 1 6-1 28.90 Freddie Warrell (Private) 5th Cobbler Monalee Champion - Yurituni 5 20-1 29.08 Dave Geggus (Walthamstow) 6th Ivy Hall Flash Proud Lincoln - Ivy Hall Rose 4 7-4f 29.20 Paddy Keane (Ireland) Distances ¾, ½, ¾, 2¼, 1½ (lengths) Competition Report With the National Greyhound Racing Club allowing trainers to seed+ their greyhounds wide for the first time it was generally agreed that there would be less crowding in races. Little County and Moordyke Spot had both retired but defending champion John Silver was entered for the competition. Clohast Rebel trained by Geoff De Mulder set a time of 28.28sec in a solo trial, two spots faster than the track record held by Yellow Printer. Laurels champion Sole Aim, Puppy Derby champion Crefogue Flash and Irish entry Postal Vote topped the ante-post lists alongside Clohast Rebel. The qualifying round was held on a firm track and many greyhounds posted fast times including Postal Vote who recorded the best time of 28.33, a heat that ended with the elimination of John Silver. The fastest first round winner was Brighton’s Hurst Wickham trained by Fred Lugg in a time of 28.56; Sole Aim, Crefogue Flash and Dolores Rocket also claimed heats. Dolores Rocket and 'Leap and Run' both won second round heats and remained unbeaten whilst Clohast Rebel bounced back to winning ways in the fastest time of 28.39. Postal Vote and Gold Collar champ Down Your Way both failed to make it to the semi-finals. The semi-finals resulted in two 10-1 shot winners, the first was Leap and Run who had now made the final unbeaten. Clohast Rebel and Crefogue Flash failed to progress. The second semi went to Irish hope Ivy Hall Flash; Sole Aim handled by Nora Gleeson for the duration of the event went out. The final saw Supreme Fun first away from the traps but Leap and Run soon took the lead and maintained an advantage from Supreme Fun and Moordyk Champion. However it was Dolores Rocket who came from last place to first becoming the first bitch to win the Derby since 1949. Dolores Rocket's dam was Come on Dolores owned by Ernie Gaskin Sr. Quarter finals [9] Heat 1 Pos Name SP Time 1st Dolores Rocket 3-1 28.61 2nd Ivy Hall Flash 5-4f 28.79 3rd Supreme Fun 7-2 28.85 4th Davyhulme Expt 20-1 29.15 5th Micks Pride 7-1 29.16 6th Big Crash 25-1 29.24 Heat 2 Pos Name SP Time 1st Clohast Rebel 7-4 28.39 2nd Michaels Bar 50-1 28.77 3rd Sir Ginger 12-1 28.87 4th Postal Vote 4-5f 28.89 5th Spectre Jockey 8-1 29.19 6th Herrhund 100-1 29.51 Heat 3 Pos Name SP Time 1st Leap And Run 4-1 28.88 2nd Cobbler 14-1 28.94 3rd Sole Aim 6-4f 29.00 4th Down Your Way 9-4 29.06 5th Mullas Shore 9-2 29.38 6th Linmaree 8-1 30.98 Heat 4 Pos Name SP Time 1st Ballybeg Era 4-1 28.76 2nd Moordyk Champ 14-1 28.90 3rd Crefogue Flash 4-6f 28.92 4th Hurst Wickham 3-1 28.98 5th King Lester 10-1 29.66 6th I'm Careful 33-1 29.68 Semi finals First Semi Final [9] Pos Name of Greyhound SP Time Trainer 1st Leap And Run 10-1 28.67 Bassett 2nd Moordyk Champion 10-1 28.93 Warrell 3rd Cobbler 25-1 29.23 Geggus 4th Ballybeg Era 10-1 29.24 Holloway 5th Clohast Rebel 4-5f 29.30 De Mulder 6th Crefogue Flash 3-1 29.56 Mitchell Second Semi Final [9] Pos Name of Greyhound SP Time Trainer 1st Ivy Hall Flash 10-1 28.76 Keane 2nd Supreme Fun 7-2 28.86 Ryall 3rd Dolores Rocket 11-8f 29.12 White 4th Sole Aim 6-1 29.13 Geggus 5th Michaels Bar 10-1 29.21 Rees Sr. 6th Sir Ginger 14-1 29.31 Warrell |
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sparrow, that must rate as one of the best finals, I remember all those dogs, god it is great to see the cards again and you could put them in context with the modern day runners, their will be guys talking about the present day dogs in the future like we are reminiscing just now, only they will be able to watch them. cheers.
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Yes a good point bairn as we only have our memory to rely on when it comes to remembering the 50s,60s and 70s and mine fades by the day!
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you have certainly made my day sparrow, nobody on here seems to have lived past the millennium, if they have they must be very quiet with nothing to say about their early experiencies, you are the only one to share the golden days with us and it makes for great reading. cheers.
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I am interested in the history of almost anything bairn and enjoy researching and bringing it back to life whether it be Greyhound Racing, music, football, family history etc.etc. Maybe it's a generation thing, who knows?
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sparrow, if I remember correctly, you were the only guy willing to give David Moyes a chance to help West Ham escape relegation, which he did, most of the fans were willing to shoot him down without giving him a chance, saying he failed at Man Utd. but everybody knows he never got a chance there to prove himself, lets hope he sorts West Ham out and prove you were right to give him along. cheers.
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Yes ^ let us hope he sorts them out, and takes them down!!
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the bairn, I'm always at odds with the fans these days and it was just the same when Allardyce was there. Still looking back to 1926 and the dockers, deptford?
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deptford, when my dad first started taking me to West Hm in the 50s no one ever mentioned Millwall and not hardly in the 60s either and I've never really understood why it suddenly reappeared after all those years. For me and many others it's Spurs I don't like but even that's got a bit boring.
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sparrow,
Can't disagree with your top 10 although I'd extend it by 1 and put in Ballinderry Moth. On YouTube there is a great video of Ballyregan Bob beating Ballintubber One at Walthamstow over 475 metres. You will have probably seen it. The pace of B One up to 3/4 is marvellous but the way Bob stayed with him and then opened out as he straightened up is breathtaking. He absolutely epitomised the term 'stretching away'. A heart-wrenching video to see my beloved 'Stow at the height of her powers. Christ, they were such great nights there. |
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The Knight.....It wasn't my top ten but a list from an article in the Greyhound Star published in 2003.
I wouldn't disagree with the selections though but obviously so many great dogs would always be left out of any compilation. I have seen that video you mention and Ballyregan Bob for me was easily the best stayer of my lifetime and few would argue about leaving him out of any list. |
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sparrow, you are ok for one of them!! Got a lot of West Ham mates, more nowdays its the youngsters.
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Doesn't Westpark Mustard not make the grade? broke Mick The Miller's record of 19 races won in a row Shocking Omission
One of those wins was about 1 & 1/2 mile from where I type this post in Brough Park! ![]() |
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A very very striking bitch too was Westpark Mustard if you google him you will see why.
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^^^ If you google HER that is
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cardinal, there are so many great dogs to put in a top 10, and everyone has their fav. and rightly so Mustard was exceptional. cheers.
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