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clacton
29 Feb 20 13:42
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Cant believe another Mug wants to lose a fortune.
One born every minute.
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Report casemoney February 29, 2020 2:42 PM GMT
have to agree if it didnt work last time why will it work this time ?  Hope I am wrong and wish them all the best ,Location a big problem imo
Report hectoratoratora February 29, 2020 8:35 PM GMT
Lord Hesketh is not a hard act to follow and imo Boothby most likely has a plan regarding his SIS fixtures at Henlow where houses will be built, the only question is when.
Report Lightbulbs Fan Club March 2, 2020 2:38 PM GMT
Gary Wiltshire and Bunny confirmed two bookmakers so far....a strong ring would be helpful
Report privatehire May 14, 2020 7:38 PM BST
According to billy boyles twitter feed towcester license to operate was issued today.
Report casemoney May 14, 2020 8:42 PM BST
Good luck to them be nice if they stream a few Trials is the Track sorted now ?
Report privatehire May 14, 2020 8:54 PM BST
Has to be all good case. They wouldn,t issue license unless snagging list complete.
Report GLASGOWCALLING May 14, 2020 9:29 PM BST
Exactly, good luck to the guy, the sport has feck all going for it at the moment and I for one wish them all the

luck going. Happy
Report irishone May 14, 2020 9:33 PM BST
poole gone ? ...rumour on facebook
Report privatehire May 14, 2020 10:30 PM BST
Thread up on scene irish.
Report casemoney May 15, 2020 2:26 PM BST
Shocked I wont miss the place but never the Less Sad
Report casemoney May 15, 2020 2:31 PM BST
Saying not closing now
Report casemoney May 16, 2020 3:16 PM BST
Have to Believe TOW will get RPTV slots ???  Otherwise how can they survive ??
Report casemoney May 16, 2020 3:18 PM BST
I mean they will get a Slot
Report privatehire May 16, 2020 5:17 PM BST
I read statement the other day stating btwn henlow an towcester they gona av around 1500 dogs. How do they all get a run? Henlow i know had a vey busy schedule before lockdown. Towcester i believe want to av 1 open race night. He will need to negociate the mother of all deals. Remember thats not bin negociated yet. With that amount of kennel strength imo he will need to av a similar schedule to henlow. Also lookin to av towcester running graded up to A5. Didnt they av same prob wen the good lord had it. People looking at golden goose left to go there an couldnt get runs. Many left claiming it was elitest. Might be a case of we bin here b4. I hope not.
Report wedge1 May 16, 2020 5:59 PM BST
good point private
but unfortunately due to virus goalposts will be moved
Report sparrow May 16, 2020 7:39 PM BST
They just never learn in this game.
How much racing do they think this sport can support?
The only way to survive is with less dogs and less races and not with all this saturation of 14 race cards day in and day out at virtually every track. The average punter just isn't interested in all these 2 and 4 bend graded races.
Report now wheres that switch!!! May 16, 2020 8:50 PM BST
Sparrow.. the trouble is the bookmakers control the sport. And the Billy Bunters they accept bets from couldn’t care if its the derby final or an A10 at Henlow on a Friday morning before the sun has even come up! They will still play there same number f/casts, tricasts etc with the same thought process. That’s who the bookmakers will lay to all day long.. sadly the true dog punters are shafted in all ways. 1) terrible racing put in a majority of the week. 2) when decent racing is in, they cannot get a bet on! Sad times im afraid
Report sparrow May 16, 2020 9:03 PM BST
You are of course right switch in saying that the main problem is the bookmakers control and they themselves will surely be looking for cutbacks in their budgets at the end of this current crisis. Either way the sport has to move away from the present situation to try and survive.
Report clacton May 16, 2020 9:19 PM BST
Towcester would not be returning without the bookmakers money. Its the only way any track can survive.
Not enough money comes through the turnstiles to make it pay.
If anyone knows how to change it they should start explaining.
Report sparrow May 16, 2020 9:29 PM BST
Well clacton we have been here before whereby I argue for less meetings and less racing and you argue for no change. We will see how this develops and hope that somehow or other the sport survives.
Report ItsMeSwaddle May 16, 2020 9:30 PM BST
Sparrow is right.

The tail is now well and truly wagging the dog.

Hopefully towcester can somehow put some meaningful prize money up.

I think id like to see "run money" done away with and incentives for 2nd and 3rd placers.

Clacton do you think this can work:

Smaller pool of A1-A5 dogs...

Punters get to know the dogs better/ compilers get the odds more accurate with the earlies as they have less work to do and dogs to note.

Punters more engaged so pump in more liquidity...which can only be good if you are making an accurate book in the first place to feckin 130%

Less races surely mean more interest per race so the bookmakers can get a more even spread in the book too?
Report ItsMeSwaddle May 16, 2020 9:36 PM BST
Very wishful thinking and im presuming this place would just say no thank you but what about a semi Australian taxation style model?

Towcester say ok we want 0.5% commission of all winnings per race?

BF passes it on the punter and we all start to pay 2.5% instead of 2% commission.

100K liquidity provides £500 a race to Towcester.

Dreaming probably.
Report clacton May 16, 2020 9:38 PM BST
Im not arguing for no change. Im just saying what the situation is.
Tracks get good money from bookmakers so they are not giving that up thats for sure.
I dont know the answer but if you dont take the bookmakers money, where does it come from.
You tell me because I dont know.
Report sparrow May 16, 2020 9:48 PM BST
Clacton, I haven't said that we should not take the bookmakers money but that we need to convince them that the present way needs to be changed.
8 race cards and less meetings to be achieved within the next few years and of course more variety rather than just 2 and 4 bend racing.
Report sparrow May 16, 2020 9:50 PM BST
And when we talk about bookmakers money I mean all bookmakers including this one.
Report ItsMeSwaddle May 16, 2020 9:51 PM BST
Possibly  their casinos, thats via bricks and mortar and online stuff, and their shop front is just a disguise to be a casino.

I really wouldn't know either.

Something I dont understand...

If you are a true mug punter and you would pick a selection purely off colours numbers and names....I dont get why the bookmakers have not completely pulled the plug on anything real greyhound wise full stop. These people would still surely bet on the virtual stuff? A tough one.
Report now wheres that switch!!! May 17, 2020 11:15 AM BST
I think one key target should be to get the sport showcased on Sky sports again or a terrestrial channel. An evening on itv 4 or something can’t be that difficult to at least push for. Could be a league where trainers have say 6 dogs. All run at the 6 tracks. Public get to know the dogs as seeing them weekly.. or a cup style competition of match bets etc. Any new ideas that will capture the public’s imagination..
Report now wheres that switch!!! May 17, 2020 11:19 AM BST
Not saying this is the best idea at all.. just feel they have to freshen things up to survive. It’s become a bit stale I feel. Those at the top just don’t seem to have any appetite for change at all. It needs someone like Hearn to come in and shake it up. Because there is a great product with this wonderful canine athletes. Running to a time within .2 of a second most weeks. Any other views..?
Report Takethepaintoftherails May 17, 2020 8:47 PM BST
Boothby has a deal with sky sports racing I believe
Report casemoney May 19, 2020 12:31 AM BST
Track looks absolutely Cracking Happy Nice long straights  , The Lorry park bends are gone Happy looks a right gallop

Only downer no Tow TV , which was great , Looks like SIS and trying to sort Something
with sky ,Said will try get TOW TV up and running going forward ...

Sounds cracking the plans they have, hope any meetings are in the evening , The saturday showcase
Sounds great ... Happy

G luck to them  ...

https://youtu.be/gO3Y7np3dWI
Report casemoney May 19, 2020 12:52 AM BST
Out of the foooking darkiness came a light I really wish them all the best , some brilliant Ideas

For the Saturday Night they need to sort out a mega bet Maybe an 10 race super placepot 

percentage to the track and promote it , AND BRING BACK TOW TV Grin
Report casemoney May 19, 2020 12:54 AM BST
The quality of racing sounds like it will be superb ...

NIGHT OF STARS MEETING Cool
Report dr . atkins May 19, 2020 12:56 AM BST
if there was a share option for towcester would you invest your money with a big pay out in 3 years time ?
Report privatehire May 19, 2020 8:05 AM BST
No u wouldnt doc. Just got that niggling feeling. Harry got shafted at coventry n he had best track in country. I,m always the pessimist.
Report casemoney May 19, 2020 1:02 PM BST
If I invested there would be an Earthquake doc .
Report wondersobright May 19, 2020 2:11 PM BST
haven't seen it yet but if they've transformed the track like you say case I'll give it another chance
Report casemoney May 19, 2020 8:07 PM BST
They have it on Kevins  Tablet but he would not be the greatest camera man Grin
Report privatehire May 23, 2020 11:23 AM BST
Word reaching me late last night that towcester trials will stop. Still no media rights deal in place. Think coral n ladbrokes will race. Promoter run tracks not so sure. June the first start think will be bridge to far for them. What a f u c k i n shambles.
Report privatehire May 23, 2020 11:23 AM BST
Word reaching me late last night that towcester trials will stop. Still no media rights deal in place. Think coral n ladbrokes will race. Promoter run tracks not so sure. June the first start think will be bridge to far for them. What a f u c k i n shambles.
Report dr . atkins May 23, 2020 11:46 AM BST
well del boy had the track last time looks like rigsby got it this time
Report privatehire May 23, 2020 1:51 PM BST
Towcester now trying for thirsday friday nxt week.
Report RothmanMike May 23, 2020 9:09 PM BST
Yes , I heard about the hold up ,Private.
Something about a squabble with SIS deal , I was told.
My mates dog is scheduled to trial on Thursday at Towcester.
Sparta Master that is, and he has now given it a rails seed.
Report casemoney May 25, 2020 4:06 PM BST
ShockedRails , Doesn't strike me as an inside dog Mike ?? Maybe a race or two then switch back , Worked wonders with Turnhouse Jet.......
Report privatehire May 25, 2020 5:20 PM BST
Lot of hare breakdowns henlow. They trying to get parts i believe. 8 wks they could av bin doing bit maintenance evidently not. Towcester i also hear neading parts for there system. The man thats promoting both i defo av my concerns. Dont know if he,s a bluffer or not. Does henlow av to be up n running to fund towcester? Sis still no deal. Not sure but this maybe a house of cards. He owns dozens upon dozens dogs at henlow. He,s also biggest punter at gaff so i,m told. It dont seem right to me. Sorry about all negativity.
Report casemoney May 25, 2020 5:34 PM BST
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