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LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
12 Feb 20 14:57
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In the 90's does anyone remember the tall slim guy (think he may have had Ginger hair) who was mute?  He was always at catford and Wimbledon too I think so obviously Dog mad but literally couldn't speak.  Would have been in his late 30's I'd guess then.

Anyone know his name, what happened to him?

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By:
the.mad.dog.man
When: 12 Feb 20 18:30
remember him dont know his name must be 55 to 60 now
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 12 Feb 20 19:25
I'd say a touch older but yes you could well be right.

Just wondered what his story was and what's happened to him.
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 13 Feb 20 09:08
Blimey I thought there were a lot of old dog goers on here yet nobody can help?
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 14 Feb 20 21:53
Come on old Catford punters where are you?
By:
Deptford
When: 14 Feb 20 22:08
I was in Vegas when Catford shut, a mate was meeting us out there, said he had some bad news and I better sit down, colour drained from my face when he told me, second home.
By:
Deptford
When: 14 Feb 20 22:09
I have asked someone who will prob know, will pass on.
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 14 Feb 20 23:04
Deptford

Thanks so much.

Just intrigued that's all.  He was a stand out Charachtor obviously because he couldn't speak so everyone knew him.
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 20 Feb 20 09:44
ttt
By:
poshroger
When: 20 Feb 20 13:57
I seem to remeber him being deaf and dumb and his name was Pat .No idea what happened to him.
Hope that helps
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 20 Feb 20 19:50
I hardly missed a meeting at Catford for 25 years until it closed down in 2003 and I thought I must have known all the faces in that time but I don't recall that chap Lou.
By:
woodmanchester
When: 21 Feb 20 07:25
Phil Donaldson used to be RM at Catford

Why not e-mail the show?

Hope this helps
By:
irishone
When: 21 Feb 20 21:37
He had a bulbous nose and a pompous face
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 22 Feb 20 02:22
slippy

I used to go over the cheap ring.  This would be about early 90's I guess.  Saw him at Crayford and Wimbledon too,  He was a right 'Dogger'
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 22 Feb 20 18:14
Lou I used to be mainly in the grandstand opposite John Humphrey's pitch but I did go to the 'cheapside' as well as a few mates preferred it over there. I'm trying to remember all the layers from back in the day on that side. Wally Harrison, Sid Hooper, Tony Kemp, Steve Gibbs, Kim Johnson, old man Sollaway (he did Humphreys tissue prices on occasions), betting without the jolly was Jim Robinson and there was another one on the end whose name escapes me. Grandstand was Humphreys, Crawley, David Richardson ( I still see him on course at the Southern courses like Plumpton) Ray Dean was on the end and I've forgotten one or two. Very happy times for me going to Catford, had a few dogs with Paddy Millagan, Arthur Boyce and Ray Peacock over the years.
By:
SPOT THE DOG
When: 22 Feb 20 20:00
i only went the once
555 mts and 380?
lovely banked bends
By:
michael59
When: 22 Feb 20 20:17
i went there from 1973 till it shut and i dont know this fella , i remember a dog called ariel miss used to run in 74 blinding early but faded badly lol 8 dog races etc
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 22 Feb 20 20:24
Michael, absolutely certain we would have stood next to each other on the terraces at some stage over the years, like Deptford has already said, it was my second home as well and I was completely distraught when they closed the doors.
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LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 23 Feb 20 00:55
slippy

I only went on the 'cheap' side, far better view.

Funny how I remember this charachtor but pretty much no one else does?
By:
hectoratoratora
When: 23 Feb 20 08:02
Maybe it was someone who was ignoring you but he liked and chatted to everyone else .Does that sound plausible?
By:
michael59
When: 23 Feb 20 11:15
slippy blue i have no doubt we prob facially knew eachother , i stood around the main enclosure and bet with humphreys his clerk denis was the manager of my local bookies in orpington high st
By:
Lucky Luciano
When: 02 Mar 20 16:06
Lou
Also a regular on the cheap side with a collection other regulars standing opposite Brian's pitch (Wally H)  in the 80s and 90s down Catford, knew a number of people but cant say i remember the guy you are talking about Harry Holmes was another bookmaker on the cheap side during that time if my memory serves.
   

By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 02 Mar 20 16:25
Lucky

Did you know a guy with glasses called 'Steve' who was a Palace fan?  If so what happened to him?
By:
Lucky Luciano
When: 02 Mar 20 17:35
good chance the same steve I knew

used to travel down to Catford together with my dad, he left Hither Green around 1998 and went down to Deal to run a pub with a bird he met in the station hotel, she ran the florist nearby. They split up sometime back and she married one of her customers then eventually left the pub, He was a nice guy so a shame wouldnt have deserved that  Sad

Lost touch with him and havnt seen him for about 10 years but only recently someone else mentioned him and might try and contact him, shouldnt b too hard i was in the same class as his sister at school.
if you knew Steve well, probably know me and def my dad
By:
Deptford
When: 02 Mar 20 18:01
Great memories with the racecards, loved Ryan and June.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 06 Mar 20 16:49
I think I've just twigged who it is, tall, slim bloke with gingerish hair, possibly called Simon. He owned a mediocre hurdler, H2/H3 grade caled 'Drum Call'. I only ever saw him bet with John Humphreys and he was quite an argumentative person who used to get on J.H.'s nerves from what I can recall! I don't think he had any other dogs at Catford. Not a big punter, maybe £50 - £100 maximum.
By:
kevo
When: 09 Mar 20 11:02
Did he argue in sign language Slippy.
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 09 Mar 20 16:54
slippy

Without a doubt this guy couldn't speak, was mute.

He was probably about Mid 30's - 40 but this was 25 years ago I suppose.

Saw him at Wimbledon and Crayford too.
By:
poshroger
When: 10 Mar 20 12:24
I knew him as deaf and Dumb Pat about 30ish ginger ,regular Catford and Crayford .
Used to pull your arm then tap ferociously at programme trying to tell you what dog he fancied.
Definitely used to drive JH mad .
Been told he moved back to Ieland
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 10 Mar 20 18:28
Roger

Yes now that sounds like him.

I used to go in Cheap Ring at catford so he must have gone over other side to JH too.
By:
DroopysGregKinkysNap
When: 12 Mar 20 00:04
I wonder if JH shouted at him "You got nothing". What a track that was. From when I was about 15 or 16 I was there every meeting and then I owned my first dog there with Efdal trained by Simpson, she won over all three distances and an open at Sittingbourne.
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