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21 Nov 19 10:20
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In part 1, Darran tells us about why he will only bet on greyhound racing. He opens up about his methods; studying videos and form everyday and how he is constantly looking out for prices that are 'too big' or 'wrong'. We also discuss the lifestyle of a gambler and how he deals with 'bad days at the office.'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnO8m382ifk

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Report privatehire November 21, 2019 10:38 AM GMT
I,m in pub most days ( my office ). When i was a kennelhand we always celebrated our big race wins. I did anyway. I try not to av many bad days punting. Wen i do i go to the pub. Laugh
I wouldn,t be as dedicated as some of the young lads that do it for a living these days. I tip my hat to them. I cant sit an do a 14 or 15 race card these days. I dont have the patience. I av met a few who bought there houses n bit o land threw betting dogs. These lads are gods imo. Hope to c a few soon for few beers. I only bin doing it 5 yrs n i dont bet big enough or dont bet enough winners to buy houses. Fair play to them. I might have 4 5 6 bets a week. I watched darrens video tuesday. Good luck to him.
Report DroopysGregKinkysNap November 21, 2019 11:42 AM GMT
Anyone who back back 9/4 pokes at 5/1 and bigger is doing it right. Just gotta get on.
Report At_The_Dogs November 21, 2019 12:06 PM GMT
Not really Kinky, forgotten the hard part... The dog winning! A 5/1 slip not much use if don't cross the line infront.
Report At_The_Dogs November 21, 2019 12:16 PM GMT
Agreed with one thing, most of your "better bets" will be losers.
Report starship November 21, 2019 12:37 PM GMT
holding slips at 5/1, 9/4 pokes.
3 slips would go in the bin and the other passed over the counter for payment
Report dr . atkins November 21, 2019 2:33 PM GMT
multi bets just kill accounts you may just get one multi bet on and account closed on the high st pads and freds 1 pound lucky 15 anything over that amount will be rang up if you go for a 3 pound lucky 15 it will be rang over and you will be very lucky to get on and prices be cut
Report Takethepaintoftherails November 21, 2019 3:22 PM GMT
czechbet is the best judge in the country bar none. keith would not get near.
Report privatehire November 21, 2019 3:28 PM GMT
I got nice few quid out a skybet account earlier in year doc.all singles had a lucky 15 for £8 £120 bet. Had it up account closed. Got 2 decent skybet just now. Dont av multis on them. I can normally get on wot i want btwn 2 accounts.
Report privatehire November 21, 2019 3:34 PM GMT
Paint i know him reasonably well. I would call him a friend. Chatted few times we bin in company together. His words to me were he knows lads that are as good if not better than him. His edge is he,s a very good gambler. Fascinates me talking to him. Great lad.
Report Takethepaintoftherails November 21, 2019 3:37 PM GMT
agree ph. spoke to him few times a good character. wot makes me say e is the best is because these pro punters are betting ricks only. any one can do that.... czech does not need false prices to win and now thats a skill and wot i call a professional. i admit i cannot do wot e does
Report privatehire November 21, 2019 3:49 PM GMT
Same as u paint. Nothing but admiration for him. Met him threw forum. P.f patrick starr met eyeball last year fattie. All great charachters.
Report metro john November 21, 2019 3:54 PM GMT
Vanity.
Report dr . atkins November 21, 2019 4:12 PM GMT
takethepaintoftherails do you know darren keefe if not you should not be making statements like that
Report Czechbet November 21, 2019 4:41 PM GMT
being a judge really is fck all and it should not be anyone's sole focus, i know good judges who are potless almost a curse as they are such poor punters.

how much you win long term and how you get it etc now that's interesting and all that matters to me.

anyone who has spoke to me like PH etc knows i would take zero pride in being called a judge almost an insult.

Im just a clever **** who wins chunks out the game Laugh leave it at that

never met Darren and from what i saw he says most things spot on about how you have to be mentally, bar he looked up to harry findlay omg Crazy

gl all
Report dr . atkins November 21, 2019 4:57 PM GMT
judges are for the old bailey i take my hat off to anymore who makes it pay it don't matter if they win 200 or 500,000 over the year they are not losing. people i disagree with are the people who think they are billy big bo llocks and would not give you a hello seen plenty of them over the years that have hit the ground with a bump and disappeared just remember when your dead these people won't be coming to your graveside so worry about yourself and your family and no one else
Report Czechbet November 21, 2019 5:00 PM GMT
spot on doc
Report privatehire November 21, 2019 5:32 PM GMT
100 % doc
Report Deptford November 21, 2019 6:14 PM GMT
Well putt doc.
Report nineteen points November 21, 2019 6:25 PM GMT
another well punted dog.another withdrawal.another reserve scoots home. theres a trend getting set here
Report wondersobright November 21, 2019 7:55 PM GMT
bar he looked up to harry findlay omg
Laugh
Report Takethepaintoftherails November 21, 2019 9:07 PM GMT
i respect darran doc. av met him at hq many moons ago. he has always struck me as bright
Report dr . atkins November 21, 2019 9:14 PM GMT
only going by what mates have said who have been with him a few years ago now and all have said that darren aka the prince very very good at what he does so as i said good luck to people who win at the game
Report boga November 21, 2019 10:19 PM GMT
fair play to anyone who can beat the pre-race markets on 40% commission and still make it pay, must have been a sickener when he got caught trying to avoid the premium charge and Betfair taking away 24k I would have many sleepless nights
Report starship November 22, 2019 2:27 PM GMT
must have been a sickener when he got caught trying to avoid the premium charge

it liked being mugged without the voilence
Report SUNDERLAND GREYHOUND EXPERT November 22, 2019 3:03 PM GMT
Forty per cent premium charge, and still in profit, he must be a genius.
Report starship November 22, 2019 3:10 PM GMT
he is
Report Mahoney November 22, 2019 3:17 PM GMT
It leads to a major "adjustment" in your thinking, that's all.... and it's important to not lose sight of how you got to be on Premium charge If you can make money consistently to get you to the Premium charge then you can continue to make money

I've kept the same real term profitability using the same methods at the same winning % ... but what you have to make adjustments to is your ROI

The ROI part effects your staking % ... that's when it's important that your are knowledgeable about gambling theory and probability ratios AS WELL as being a good judge or having a consistent methodology

What i'd disagree with in the video is Darren's belief that he naturally has an instinct. "Instinct" comes from hard work, long hours and experience
Report starship November 22, 2019 3:21 PM GMT
think he is referring to being at a young age knowing all the times at all tracks.
now and again when discuusing a card , he would say, the four must be a runner on its times in ireland
Report Mahoney November 22, 2019 3:24 PM GMT
I should probably clarify that last bit ...

"What i'd disagree with in the video is Darren's belief that he naturally has an instinct. "Instinct" comes from hard work, long hours and experience"

and change it to

"What i'd disagree with in the video is Darren's belief that he naturally has an instinct. "Instinct" comes from hard work, long hours and experience - all of which Darren has done"
Report cardenden November 22, 2019 10:01 PM GMT
Woody.. the only pounds you have gained are on your belly,,,
Report superjudge November 23, 2019 12:43 AM GMT
know darren  from a young lad. decent judge yes. nothing more.hard working massively.forty per cent and still winning? that is whats called bollocks talk.
Report sparrow November 23, 2019 9:46 AM GMT
Superjudge.....I was thinking the same myself about winning in excess of the 40%.
Report Czechbet November 23, 2019 9:52 AM GMT
the interview parts 2&3 certainly tailed off a bit wonky...

What is actually the point of them? to promote gambling or greyhound racing?

Unless getting 5 bags a pop whats the point of appearing? other than an needed ego boost which shows weakness
Report superjudge November 23, 2019 10:04 AM GMT
agree czech absolutely pointess.
Report ItsMeSwaddle November 23, 2019 10:06 AM GMT
Didnt really tell me anything I didnt already know and possibly dont follow the racing as much as people on here.

Only interesting bit for me is protocol for a losing run.

He did allude to the fact somewhere he took a day off...but mainly "work even harder to find winners"...each to their own but does "working harder to find them" percentage wise bring people more success on here? Certainly not me, i end up trying to get angles that aren't actually there.Grin

Not that there is an easy solution either but if you get a decent size interview like that a logical question surely is: Where do you see the game going in the next few years?
Report Mahoney November 23, 2019 10:41 AM GMT
SJ / Sparrow ...

When you kop for the 40% it's 40% of your overall profit  ... you can still operate at 10%, for example, profit on your actual betting - then the 40% is deducted weekly out of any profit.

Sorry if i'm teaching my Grandma to suck eggs etc .. but you are making it sound as if you need to make 40% profit
Report Mahoney November 23, 2019 10:49 AM GMT
.... which is where i would question him on the video where he says the 40% makes a 10/1 winner a 6/1 winner ... it obviously doesn't
Report mymumsfinethankyou November 23, 2019 10:57 AM GMT
what a load of absolute shoit,,,  only watched 3 minutes ,,and i already know hes a mug punter, hes sitting talking about trixies and lucky 15s,,  hes a loser .
Report mymumsfinethankyou November 23, 2019 10:58 AM GMT
pro punters dont bet lucky 15s,,  ffs
Report Czechbet November 23, 2019 11:01 AM GMT
i'm a full time greyhound punter 18 years and i'd bet treble the odds one winner lucky 15s all day if they let me thx
Report mymumsfinethankyou November 23, 2019 11:10 AM GMT
behave yourself,,, your a looser, if you are betting lucky 15s because they are willing to give you treble the odds 1winner,,
Report mymumsfinethankyou November 23, 2019 11:14 AM GMT
pro greyhound punters only need to bet singles,,  no need going for these stupid ,,,trebles and foursomes,,  all you need is a bit of inside info,,, JIMMY KNOWS,,, THERES A GUY ON HERE BY THE NAME OF CARDENDEN ,,, EVERYONE THINKS HES A LOOSER,,  he gets the best info ,,, look at his name,, tell a story in itself,, ask jimmy wright where he was born and brought up,,, JIMMY KNOWS OK
Report Czechbet November 23, 2019 11:18 AM GMT
oh dear lol
Report mymumsfinethankyou November 23, 2019 11:25 AM GMT
ITS GUYS THAT BET LUCKY 15s the bookies want,, mug punters,,why do you think they give you treble odds for 1 winner,,,
Report starship November 23, 2019 11:27 AM GMT
MYmumsfinethanks.

why do people like you, who do not know Darren,
make stupid statements
Report Takethepaintoftherails November 23, 2019 11:27 AM GMT
mymumisfine. you would be a very skint person laying lucky 15’s to people like that at e’s desired prices.
Report wondersobright November 23, 2019 11:28 AM GMT

Nov 23, 2019 -- 5:18AM, Czechbet wrote:


oh dear lol


another 1 for the block list mate Laugh

Report Winja November 23, 2019 11:29 AM GMT
exactly the same thought wonders and czech.....
Report Czechbet November 23, 2019 11:31 AM GMT
so what happens to the guys that play the bets bookies WANT and still blow them up Confused

you strike me as someone who thinks nothing can win priced over 6/4 and unless the world is all trying to back it then its not a professional punt

gl with where your going in this conversation
Report starship November 23, 2019 11:34 AM GMT
I like a lucky 15 myself.
had three up with bet365....

logged on yesterday, no more lucky15 on the bet365 website.....mistake or do they just not take them anymore
Report Winja November 23, 2019 11:37 AM GMT
don't educate them czech......
Report Czechbet November 23, 2019 11:42 AM GMT
only having a phish back lol had a month off holiday with all my losses... i'm looking to get fired up who wants an argument that has half a chance Laugh
Report mymumsfinethankyou November 23, 2019 12:03 PM GMT
hi woody,,you on a diet yet,,
Report mymumsfinethankyou November 23, 2019 12:04 PM GMT
theres only one way you can win at the greyhounds,,,with inside info,,,CoolCoolCoolCool
Report Takethepaintoftherails November 23, 2019 12:06 PM GMT
that old cliche...funnily enough nobody i know gets inside info on greyhounds and they get money...nobody i know gets money on horses so p1ss off bk to the horse forum... clueless tart
Report mymumsfinethankyou November 23, 2019 12:08 PM GMT
jimmy ,,i went to school with him,, new his dad well,,, tassie ,,[  nickname ] brought up in cardenden ,, he stayed in DERRAN DRIVE,,THEN  he moved to lochgelly,,,  speak to him nearly every day,,,
Report starship November 23, 2019 12:14 PM GMT
jimmy ,,i went to school with him,, new his dad well,,, tassie ,,[  nickname ] brought up in cardenden ,, he stayed in DERRAN DRIVE,,THEN  he moved to lochgelly,,,  speak to him nearly every day,,,

and you are still an idiot
Report mymumsfinethankyou November 23, 2019 12:14 PM GMT
you guys hate others getting what you dearly would love to obtain,,,
Report mymumsfinethankyou November 23, 2019 12:15 PM GMT
inside infoHappyHappyHappy
Report Takethepaintoftherails November 23, 2019 12:16 PM GMT
believe what you want. you are clearly very thick
Report Deptford November 23, 2019 12:20 PM GMT
Now now, respect opinions please, obviously except woody.
Report mymumsfinethankyou November 23, 2019 12:21 PM GMT
i can prove it to,,,i can put a few up here,,,
Report wedge1 November 23, 2019 12:24 PM GMT
mymumsfinethankyou
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thank you,,i see no point betting in the dog markets if the previous videos cant be viewed.  i would have thought the videos would be there for all the view ,as surely this would attract more custom. in that case i declare myself OUT
best you get inside info then
Report Czechbet November 23, 2019 12:24 PM GMT
spot on wonders, early shout of the day added to the woody block list Laugh
Report mymumsfinethankyou November 23, 2019 12:27 PM GMT
someones seriously needs to block woody from eating,,
Report HGS November 23, 2019 1:16 PM GMT
starship.  365 do still do lucky 15's. They don't show though when you are not logged in. I've tried to find them not knowing I wasn't logged in and they're not there. Saw that I wasn't logged in and once I did, the lucky 15 option appeared.
Report privatehire November 23, 2019 1:28 PM GMT
Inside info ffs. I,ve heard it all now. I would say 98% of trainers could not tip themselvrs out of bed. If he knows jimmy likely to be a scotsman. Makes me ashamed.Laugh
Report mymumsfinethankyou November 23, 2019 1:40 PM GMT
jimmy was also an ice cream  man ,,,  had his own van,,,
Report irishone November 23, 2019 2:37 PM GMT
Pro punters would bet place if the value was there
Report Mahoney November 23, 2019 4:03 PM GMT
mymumsfinethankyou ....

HI .... When was Jimmy an ice cream man ?

I thought he went from school to Leeds United, then to St Johnstone, then to play in Australia then returned to UK and immediately started working as an assistant to Greyhound Trainers
Report SPOT THE DOG November 23, 2019 4:33 PM GMT
When i was Training,my owners loved it,when i stated their dog,would not get beat.
One owner,i had gave me £200 each time i gave him a winner.
I gave him,13 Winners on the trot.Cool
Report privatehire November 23, 2019 5:38 PM GMT
I dont think jimmy thanq for pointing that out. As mahoney said a more than gifted fòtballer.
Report mymumsfinethankyou November 23, 2019 7:08 PM GMT

Nov 23, 2019 -- 10:03AM, Mahoney wrote:


mymumsfinethankyou ....HI .... When was Jimmy an ice cream man ?I thought he went from school to Leeds United, then to St Johnstone, then to play in Australia then returned to UK and immediately started working as an assistant to Greyhound Trainers


yes he did ,,you are quite correct ,,this was when he came back from australia,, he didnt start immediately with graham hutt

Report mymumsfinethankyou November 23, 2019 7:09 PM GMT
he still has cousins and nephews staying in cardenden.
Report wedge1 November 23, 2019 7:38 PM GMT
some sort of wind up going on here not quite sure what mymum is up to
Report cardenden November 23, 2019 10:03 PM GMT
I can confirm .that everything my has said is true,,,
Report Takethepaintoftherails November 23, 2019 10:05 PM GMT
ok,,,
Report Mahoney November 24, 2019 4:10 AM GMT
Hi Cardenden ...

.... well you and mymother obviously know each other well. A very brief look at both of your posting histories show you posting on all manner of subjects across various sports but almost always in the same threads at almost exactly the same time.... and always taking the exact same standpoint as each other.

It's almost as if you are twins, or at least brothers, or perhaps even one of you is a clone of the other. I mean OBVIOUSLY you aren't one person using two usernames, but you must know each other quite well.
Report Mahoney November 24, 2019 4:23 AM GMT
In fact you must have gone to the same school and had the same English teacher too, because she taught you BOTH this odd habit of writing doble commas in all your messages


mymums : pro punters dont bet lucky 15s,,  ffs

cardenden :  the only pounds you have gained are on your belly,,,

mymums : what a load of absolute shoit,,,  only watched 3 minutes ,,and i already know hes a mug punter, hes sitting talking about trixies and lucky 15s,,  hes a loser

mymums : behave yourself,,, your a looser, if you are betting lucky 15s because they are willing to give you treble the odds 1winner,,

cardenden : I can confirm .that everything my has said is true,,,
Report GLASGOWCALLING November 24, 2019 7:11 AM GMT
It's common knowledge Cardy/mmfty are indeed Two cheeks of the same Arse.Happy
Report GLASGOWCALLING November 24, 2019 7:17 AM GMT
.... Can be found mostly on the Horse Racing Forum, spouting similar inane drivel,best to ignore or block. Imo.
Report safari guide November 24, 2019 8:45 AM GMT
That is a great analogy Glasgowcalling, they are not the only ones on here, one poster has the full house both cheeks plus the hole in the middle.
Report garryc November 24, 2019 10:57 AM GMT
Laughbrilliant mahoney
Report At_The_Dogs November 24, 2019 11:30 AM GMT
99% of the posters on here couldn't lace this fella's boots. Bar Czech, Starship & Paint.
Report At_The_Dogs November 24, 2019 11:32 AM GMT

Nov 23, 2019 -- 5:01AM, Czechbet wrote:


i'm a full time greyhound punter 18 years and i'd bet treble the odds one winner lucky 15s all day if they let me thx


Your right Czech!

Report Deptford November 24, 2019 1:19 PM GMT
Lot of old my dads bigger than your dad, load of old bowlocks.
Report sparrow November 24, 2019 1:52 PM GMT
Or even codswallop Laugh
Report mymumsfinethankyou November 24, 2019 2:16 PM GMT
cousins
Report casemoney November 24, 2019 3:22 PM GMT
"It's common knowledge Cardy/mmfty are indeed Two cheeks of the same Arse."

A classic by Glasgow Grin
Report wedge1 November 24, 2019 3:36 PM GMT
and the idiot responded classic should go to Manchester and talk to sge cockblue
Report mymumsfinethankyou November 24, 2019 4:03 PM GMT
any mention of asses ,, and wedge is there ,,,LoveLoveLoveLove
Report wedge1 November 24, 2019 4:58 PM GMT
well as it happens I was referring to the productive side that's only if you are straight otherwise
well best not say in this day and age
mymum you have been caught out give it a rest
Report boga November 24, 2019 9:09 PM GMT
Czechbet which tracks do you play? and do you do opens or do you stick to the graded stuff?
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