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woodmanchester
02 Jun 19 07:23
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All eggs basically in one basket Wildcat but don't like the draw. Would have preferred him inside Expert. Looks like neck and neck crossing the line, unless bumping and boring doesn't scupper their chances beforehand, with Roxholme Glory coming across to join issue

Think we might see Verve in a much better light Friday with Desperado lacking middle phases, before staying on again

Hope Roxholme Jim qualifies and backed Clonbrien Prince for mate taking me down. Said Draper could get a better than expected tune out of Bull Run Button but this may prove a bridge too far. Heaven knows what mayhem Ballyanne Sim will cause from trap 5

Dower Rory ran a blinder and could give Skywalker Logan something to think about

Braveheart Bobby stayed better than expected and has draw advantage over Worseforwear. Still not sure about Jaytee Taylor, again

Queen Beyoncé could be booked for top bitch, at least and bids to get the better of improving Lemon Shane. Still not totally convinced about Lemon Express

Rooting for King Sheeran over can do better Ballymac Tas

If Droopys Davy starts in best style, might be a good buckle with Magical Bale
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Report HGS June 7, 2019 9:14 PM BST
Last heat and Bale does look a good thing but short. 1 is interesting being kind, so 3-1 fc the way to go  for me.
Report GLASGOWCALLING June 7, 2019 9:15 PM BST
.. Lofty trying to put a plus in the books, not hard with the exchanges i would have thought.
Report Deptford June 7, 2019 9:15 PM BST
Phil will not agree with the bias, hopeless coward
Report Deptford June 7, 2019 9:16 PM BST
A gift from the Gods
Report HGS June 7, 2019 9:17 PM BST
Pleasing way to end.ExcitedHappy
Report the old nanny ;-) June 7, 2019 9:18 PM BST
Czech Done by the 3rd bend chicane Sad
Report Winja June 7, 2019 9:18 PM BST
pleased it was only the crowding.....looked like he went wrong for a moment.....shame would have qualified.....
Report dr . atkins June 7, 2019 9:18 PM BST
9.26 trap 1 just got a plot at 9t4 and 2t1 was the bet at evens no only danger is 6 the 2 is flying but this a harder race
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y June 7, 2019 9:19 PM BST
there excuse for why the wides are facked at this gaff is that most out in 5 and 6 are now middle runners, well of course they fooking are as all the wides are already gone after the first 2 rounds
Report the old nanny ;-) June 7, 2019 9:19 PM BST
Bale only just Cleared tonight anything inside inside QTRS could be in Trouble
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y June 7, 2019 9:19 PM BST
UL Czech Sad
Report Winja June 7, 2019 9:20 PM BST
with jesus doing the watering today what a difference the times.......track been too dry previous rounds......
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y June 7, 2019 9:22 PM BST
3 (m)s and 1 (w)

or

3 (m)s and 2 (w)s

left in the draw
Report wondersobright June 7, 2019 9:22 PM BST
agree winja
Report the old nanny ;-) June 7, 2019 9:22 PM BST
Never thought I would say this but TOW was more competitive Shocked
Report the old nanny ;-) June 7, 2019 9:24 PM BST
Is it a Run off ?? Or Coin Toss ?   I reckon Rory was Growling at 2 on  the Run In Laugh
Report wondersobright June 7, 2019 9:25 PM BST
if connections both agree to a run off, its a run off
if not, its a coin flip
Report HGS June 7, 2019 9:25 PM BST
Laugh nanny. I think the good dr mentioned this before the start and I concurred. Other than Sheffield, the worst place you could hold the thing. (Well those that were interested) but probably anyway.
Report Deptford June 7, 2019 9:26 PM BST
In all honesty its a farce but at least we have a Derby, most of us can remember the good old days, sadly they aint coming back, I do have a pop but I am glad we have our biggest race, it honestly could have been a lot worse
Report wondersobright June 7, 2019 9:27 PM BST
when is the QF draw?
Report Winja June 7, 2019 9:28 PM BST
if its a run off the loser stands by as reserve under rule 90 apparently so as there is a vacant trap automatically goes through so need for a run off.....not the case in a coin flip...
Report privatehire June 7, 2019 9:28 PM BST
No luck czech
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK June 7, 2019 9:28 PM BST
Biggest **** that yes yes yes
Never forgot that hove run
Report Ravage Again June 7, 2019 9:29 PM BST
One thing I have noticed at Nott with the camera looking straight on the traps

Not much room between t6 and the grass

Loads of room from trap 1 to inside rails

Therefore the trap 6 dog if it runs straight is running on the raised sand on the outside

It's not getting flatten by the tractor and must surely be slower ground that the rest of the track that's totally level

Might be the reason why most of the trap 6 dogs ain't doing anything to the first bend
Report the old nanny ;-) June 7, 2019 9:29 PM BST
Not sure this is Better than sheffield tbh , I thought with a Couple of races under the Belt Wides etc would improve but does not appear to be the Case
Report dr . atkins June 7, 2019 9:30 PM BST
after 10.15 won't be on rpgtv live they said early on but might change now
Report HGS June 7, 2019 9:33 PM BST
9.32 traap 3 looks to have a chance on debut. 5-3 fc saver
Report Deptford June 7, 2019 9:34 PM BST
5 beats 6, superb, Phil say no bias
Report wondersobright June 7, 2019 9:34 PM BST
56 in the graded

key word in that sentence though
Report Deptford June 7, 2019 9:35 PM BST
Phil better off in studio for ladies World Cup
Report the old nanny ;-) June 7, 2019 9:36 PM BST
The Graded Wides not a Problem Very strange  Plain But then there were F,A wides to start off with in derby
Report the old nanny ;-) June 7, 2019 9:37 PM BST
Phil is on a Retainer for For MR SHEEN Dogs mean fook all
Report HGS June 7, 2019 9:38 PM BST
The reason why Notts is better than Sheffield is it isn't always on a turn. The straights are pretty good tbf. It's the bends that fooks everything up. Can't stand any race when the dogs are turning on the winning line. That should be a straight finish. Both these shoite tracks have this.
Report HGS June 7, 2019 9:39 PM BST
Graded dogs run far more frequently. Graded is the word. They will find theirs and all being equal any trap can win.
Report wondersobright June 7, 2019 9:40 PM BST
some boats on the inside to clear is always a good leveller Laugh
Report privatehire June 7, 2019 9:42 PM BST
Am i stupid? How can they make draw if they av run of.
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y June 7, 2019 9:42 PM BST
Is this a wind up, somebody has to know the fkin rules Laugh draw may not be made ??
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y June 7, 2019 9:43 PM BST
Spot on private, different seeds in deadheat
Report Deptford June 7, 2019 9:44 PM BST
Fook me, dog got dq, vacant trap, dead heat, run off or spin coin, fooking obvious
Report the old nanny ;-) June 7, 2019 9:44 PM BST
Back Straight is a Cracker , Till you hit the 3rd Bend Plain
Report HGS June 7, 2019 9:45 PM BST
Ping pongs in a bag?
Report the old nanny ;-) June 7, 2019 9:47 PM BST
Ideal Draw trap 1, Fall out , The first bend Clatter up , around you Go Grin
Report privatehire June 7, 2019 9:47 PM BST
In my flapping days hgs. Ping pong balls for drawing betting trial all painted. Wen we wanted red the snooker ball went in.Laugh
Report wondersobright June 7, 2019 9:47 PM BST
winja said both qualify if they have a run off
if that is right then draw can be made tonight
Report Deptford June 7, 2019 9:48 PM BST
Both in, shambles
Report Winja June 7, 2019 9:49 PM BST
they want to put both dogs through but the difference between now and when it happened at wimbledon is previously there was a vacant trap so run off was cancelled and both went through whereas tonight it was a disqualification.....just heard both through under rule 90...
Report wondersobright June 7, 2019 9:49 PM BST
swift jim DQ so 22 dogs qualified plus the 2 dogs from the run off
QFs being next weekend rather than tues is a massive help
Report the old nanny ;-) June 7, 2019 9:49 PM BST
Both in the Hat
Report wondersobright June 7, 2019 9:49 PM BST
do they need a run off or not then?
Report Winja June 7, 2019 9:50 PM BST
no.....only because the runner up in a run off is a reserve and there is already a space.....
Report wondersobright June 7, 2019 9:52 PM BST
56 again lol
Report Deptford June 7, 2019 9:52 PM BST
They open a can of worms
Report Winja June 7, 2019 9:53 PM BST
not really Deptford......who would complain.....neither dog was eliminated......it is already in the rules....
Report the old nanny ;-) June 7, 2019 9:53 PM BST
5 ran some bend there , fookin ell Laugh
Report wondersobright June 7, 2019 9:53 PM BST
just my view on it but...

surely for any dog to get a run as a reserve from the run off, the run off has to take place

I understand why they aren't but imo pre-determined protocol has been waived here
Report wondersobright June 7, 2019 9:53 PM BST
winja neither dog has qualified yet either
Report wondersobright June 7, 2019 9:54 PM BST
DH for 3rd requires a run off or a coin flip to decide which of the 2 dogs qualifies
Report the old nanny ;-) June 7, 2019 9:56 PM BST
Taking place now , The Draw Plain
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK June 7, 2019 9:56 PM BST
Jim dq

Decided both deadbeats go though
Report Winja June 7, 2019 9:57 PM BST
not sure i agree....both have filled a qualifying place......on the other point.....if the runner up is a reserve should a vacant trap become available in the next round but a trap is already available why have the run off both go through......the only difference tonight is both dogs are capable of getting any trap whereas.....should a vacant trap become available they would have to absorb that draw......
Report the old nanny ;-) June 7, 2019 9:59 PM BST
Logan 2 Cat in 4 qtr 4 Plain
Report privatehire June 7, 2019 10:02 PM BST
Where the fack is the manc pleb wen u need him. Woody u coulda had ur name up in lights if u put the draw up.
Report Deptford June 7, 2019 10:03 PM BST
No live draw, a fooking liberty
Report the old nanny ;-) June 7, 2019 10:03 PM BST
1 Roxholme Jim
2 Priceless Blake
3 Roxholme Glory
4 Droopys Verve
5 Wildfire Jimmy
6 King Sheeran (w)

1 Lemon Shane
2 Ballymac Tas
3 Droopys Expert
4 Dower Rory
5 Magical Bale
6 Worseforwear (m)

1 Front Edge
2 Queen Beyonce
3 Paganini Show
4 Ballyanne Sim
5 Clonbrien Prince
6 Antigua Romeo (m
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y June 7, 2019 10:03 PM BST
Woody couldn't find it again private, ended up in Taunton Shocked
Report the old nanny ;-) June 7, 2019 10:04 PM BST
th  quarter-final
1 Nice Charmer
2 Skywalker Logan
3 Master Reed
4 Dorotas Wildcat
5 Lemon Ronald (m)
6 Jaytee Taylor (w)
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y June 7, 2019 10:05 PM BST
You'd swear Wildcat had a bad draw the way they where going on, ffs he should shorten on the back of that, zero to clear inside him
Report the old nanny ;-) June 7, 2019 10:05 PM BST
Talk about keeping them Apart  , Fooking ell
Report wondersobright June 7, 2019 10:06 PM BST

Jun 7, 2019 -- 10:03PM, p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y wrote:


Woody couldn't find it again private, ended up in Taunton


ah that's cool PF, sure I had a saver on taunton anyway, @ 1000/1, returns £5





(work it out Laugh)

Report HGS June 7, 2019 10:06 PM BST
Taunton pf LaughLaughLaugh
Report Deptford June 7, 2019 10:08 PM BST
Clon Prince shocking draw, Wildcat winner imo
Report wondersobright June 7, 2019 10:08 PM BST
my thoughts exactly wildcat no pace around
Report the old nanny ;-) June 7, 2019 10:09 PM BST
Wild cat cracking Draw be 2 on
Report wondersobright June 7, 2019 10:09 PM BST
would wanna take MB & CP on shortish from 5
Report the old nanny ;-) June 7, 2019 10:09 PM BST
Expert inside bale at the Bend imo
Report the old nanny ;-) June 7, 2019 10:13 PM BST
Ron will be everywhere Taylor wants to be Could not have got a Worse draw JT Plain
Report Deepdale Dreamer June 7, 2019 10:16 PM BST
Beyonce just got Tas left to bear for top bitch honours Private
Report HGS June 7, 2019 10:20 PM BST
ph, ping pongs in a bag. Did you ever get to Warwick? No longer here Sad
Report privatehire June 7, 2019 10:23 PM BST
No hgs done a few in england tho. Was on all the licensed tracks.
Report tonycoppen. June 7, 2019 10:28 PM BST
Lemon Shane in red........Carnage ?
Report woodmanchester June 8, 2019 8:25 AM BST
4/6 a steal, pf. Mate drove straight down the M1 from Sheffield, passing Newark, joining the A610 Nottingham, then A60 before following the signs for the horse racing track

HGS you say Private made the post of the year but not necessarily so bookmakers the only enemy. In this day and age on the exchanges don't we back against each other too, or am I missing something?

Liked Colwick Park. Million times more modern than the old run down Plough Lane and great view of the dogs whizzing close by, unlike Towcester where you needed binoculars. Nice country backdrop anorl. Drawback, not mad busy but still nowhere to sit

Oi Oi 16/1, 20/1 and 22/1 Dower Rory. Of course, I only ever go for favourites! Laugh

The 4/1 Beyoncé/Bale double like finding money in the street, pair winning by an aggregate of nearly 10 lengths and the sp double only paying marginally over 13/8! Cool
Report woodmanchester June 8, 2019 8:26 AM BST
PS Glad common sense prevailed with both dead-heaters qualifying
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y June 8, 2019 8:52 AM BST
You do realise nobody cares or believes the majority of what you post on here?
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y June 8, 2019 8:58 AM BST
Plough Lane was a fkin palace and don't you be saying otherwise.... Grin
Report dazmacccccc June 8, 2019 3:00 PM BST
common sense did prevail with the dead heaters both getting through but i dont think it should have happened,whats the point in having rules if they are not followed to the letter.

what should have happened is a coin should have been tossed to see who goes through to the 23 runner 1/4 finals and a motion to be made to amend the rules for if a situation like this occured again in the future for it to be settled like it was last night.
Report woodmanchester June 8, 2019 3:18 PM BST
Daz, think the rule in question said the 4th home wouldn't be promoted in the event of one of the top 3 being disqualified

Think it was a grey area (never happened before, not in England anyway?), so might have set a good precedent
Report Winja June 8, 2019 3:23 PM BST
daz that would have happened if there was no vacancy.......however.....if you understand the rules......the dog who came fourth in the race with the disqualification cannot qualify for the next round so there was a vacancy........if two dead heated dogs race in a run off the loser stands as reserve for the next round only.....as there was a place available that would have been filled.....no need for a run off......i cant believe how anyone can make a case stating the end result was unfair.......as an aside....if a coin toss was chosen over a run-off then the loser does not become a reserve......
Report dazmacccccc June 8, 2019 3:52 PM BST
i never mentioned anything about the 4th dog home,dont know why ye are bringing that up.i clearly said a 23 runner 1/4 finals.

the end result was not unfair but at the same time you cant ignore the rules just to fit what is the common sense solution.

in my opinion what should have happened is a coin toss(run off not possible) and for the rule book to be changed for future events
Report wedge1 June 8, 2019 6:32 PM BST
to be fair it makes no odds as neither will win the derby
Report dazmacccccc June 8, 2019 6:57 PM BST
thats the kinda attitude that made trump president
Report woodmanchester June 8, 2019 6:58 PM BST
Why wouldn't a run off been possible, anyway?

Sure Rab would have taken it with his dog long odds on in a match, imo but both need to agree on a toss if that was going to be the solution

PS Daz, don't think it says anywhere in the rule book that two cant qualify in the event of a dead heat for third
Report Winja June 8, 2019 7:10 PM BST
the decision was within the fecking rules...….
Report wedge1 June 8, 2019 7:17 PM BST
correct winja
bleating about nothing
at the end of the day look back to the semi final of lively band that was the precedent
Report dazmacccccc June 8, 2019 7:35 PM BST
woody,so anything not mentioned in the rule book is completely acceptable?thats a pretty long list
Report the old nanny ;-) June 8, 2019 10:59 PM BST
Watch the Relays again Shane looks all wrong , Be surprised if Lines Up be a sore dog today
Report woodmanchester June 9, 2019 10:19 AM BST
If so, think they should promote the fastest 4th home, like Ireland! LaughWink
Report wedge1 June 9, 2019 5:59 PM BST
bellend they change the rule to admit a dq hound now you want them to promote a dog that comes 4th when 2 dead heat for 3rd
Report irishone June 13, 2019 4:30 AM BST
dazmacccccc • June 8, 2019 3:00 PM BST
common sense did prevail with the dead heaters both getting through but i dont think it should have happened,whats the point in having rules if they are not followed to the letter.
Report irishone June 13, 2019 4:33 AM BST
Sounds like they did exactly the right thing here, anytime common sense is used to defy a rule written in stone its proof that no matter how hard you try you cant write rules to cover every eventuality in greyhound racing, let alone life !
Report woodmanchester June 13, 2019 8:35 AM BST
Posts at 4.30am. Posts again at 4.33am. I've really got him in a twist
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