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eastendking
22 Oct 18 16:08
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Me - massive greyhound fan who has punting the dogs for the last 9/10 years. I am a perennial loser as I tend to be swayed by backing the dogs who have been well punted (backed from 5.7 into 4.2 for example).

I always see a drifting dog as being one that isn't primed to win on that day.

Does anyone else follow and track the price moves? or allow the changing price of a dog to affect their decision?
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Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK October 22, 2018 5:52 PM BST
Your 10-12 years too late fella

Golden days of Wimbledon oxford crayford
Long gone

Oxford Friday morn o my god Crazy

Can fellow the unders if you want
Or do some ducking work find the plays yourself
Report woodmanchester October 22, 2018 6:08 PM BST
Eastend, you say youre a massive dog fan. What's the greatest appeal, in your opinion?
Report starship October 22, 2018 7:47 PM BST
Me - massive greyhound fan who has punting the dogs for the last 9/10 years. I am a perennial loser as I tend to be swayed by backing the dogs who have been well punted (backed from 5.7 into 4.2 for example).
not be funny, no wonder you lose.
for example,
if u r taking the true odds a dog, you will lose,

so a dog opens up 5/1 and goes into 3/1, the 3/1 is the true odds, the people who take 5/1 are the ones who will win.
get the vids, study the races, do your own prices on the race, and if your prices are right, just bet the dogs that are bigger price than you make them
Report starship October 22, 2018 7:49 PM BST
basically it like taking evens black on the roulette wheel...true odds 18/19,
in the long run u will lose.
now take 5/4 black and in long run you will win
Report eastendking October 22, 2018 7:56 PM BST
@woodmanchester - the greatest appeal for me is unpicking a race. knowing what dog will go round the first bend in front, the influence of the draw etc. Lately (past year or so) a lot of the dogs don't run to their true merits - could be fatigue etc and I invariably find a rank outsider being bet big in the market and winning. This was the reason for my question around following the money.

@starship - thanks for the advice, but I wouldn't know where to start when making a book. Do you believe all dogs are race fit and ready to win in most races? the reason I follow where the money is going is because I feel the dogs drifting in price are not race fit etc.
Report irishone October 23, 2018 6:52 AM BST
Starship spot on. The fundamental point is that the actual odds on anything greyhound you select for whatever reasons are greater than what you perceive the odds to be.

You then have to add discipline in housekeeping (monitoring to see exactly how good you are ), a far more revealing pursuit that gamblers don't and often won't entertain.
Report jackboo October 23, 2018 3:05 PM BST
wait till late as possable then back what thay have backed ,
Report eastendking October 23, 2018 4:08 PM BST
@jackboo - this is what I try and do but then as @irishone and @starship have said, all of the value has been gone

@irishone and @starship - you both are firmly of the opinion that a dog which has drifted in price shouldn't set alarm bells (ie - dog not being fit)
Report garryc October 23, 2018 4:31 PM BST
dogs are running 2 to 3 times a week just now,they will all be fit unless they are feeling something and maybe easing,you need to have an opinion before the race and what odds you make that opinion,with dogs you need to be know what you are betting so you can read the market,if you dont know anything about greyhounds you will struggle ,
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK October 23, 2018 5:30 PM BST
Back in day

Playing them unders
You have your bet
Than do fc
Than do trio

Than from nowhere
Late late foama what we called them
Happen !! Carnage
6/1 or 8/1 be 5/1 on machine falling fast
Allready bottle or bigger in race
Ain’t got a clue as your follow the market

Good old days

Couldn’t be doing that **** now
Haven’t got on course on your side any more
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK October 23, 2018 5:33 PM BST
Play unders lose accounts
Play straight lose accounts
One thing in dog betting
Any good lose accounts
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK October 23, 2018 5:34 PM BST
Play at sp got a chance
Report irishone October 23, 2018 7:42 PM BST
Eastend
I have no evidence upon which to base the presumption that drifting dogs are more likely to lose.
It seems very likely however given that in most races at least 3 or 4 of the dogs drift in price !

But that should not matter to you.

You should decide what odds you think a dog should be , and you either take those odds or you dont.
Report eastendking October 23, 2018 10:29 PM BST
Makes sense @irishone

It sounds like I am reading too much into the market and market movers. I will aim to not let that sway my decisions going forward.

For example, normally, if two dogs start at 2.9 when £1000 has been matched on the market and dog x drifts to 3.9 whilst dog y is backed into 2.32 after a further 3/4000 has been matched, I always tend to back dog y blindly. I presume the market are in the “know” and the weight of money is suggesting this dog is primed to win.
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