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Report privatehire August 16, 2018 12:32 PM BST
Wallis now a henlow trainer. Official.
Report xmoneyx August 16, 2018 12:35 PM BST
walthanstow closing -- massive sad
Report Ravage Again August 16, 2018 12:42 PM BST
I do not understand why it losing so much money compared with other greyhound tracks

Did it not get the TV rights money for all it's meetings as the other tracks do

The only difference to other tracks

Is free admission
And I guess a rather large heating bill compared with smaller tracks

What makes it different to hove monmore or say Newcastle

Also it Towcester not getting a massive 8 fog racing contract for the Asian market?

I heard it was in the bag Laugh

Poor Hobsie he must be gutted no sky dogs no Towcester

Have to start erecting fences again and testing structural soundness of said fences Silly

At least the greyhound derby might got to a track that produces fair and competitive racing in which dogs can come from behind ie 4th 5th or 6th position at the first bend Cool
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y August 16, 2018 12:48 PM BST
They had the bloody chuckle brothers running the place, was hardly ideal
Report irishone August 16, 2018 12:53 PM BST
LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report wondersobright August 16, 2018 1:18 PM BST
PF knows
Report Captain carnage August 16, 2018 1:41 PM BST
SIS contract for 4 meets a week at £12k a pop = £2.5mill income.

Having Towcester magically transferred to somewhere were they get 200 more punters in a night =
2x200x£10 = £200k a year.
Report Captain carnage August 16, 2018 1:42 PM BST
Sports thrive off media/TV rights deals.

The punters are just filling stadiums and contributing to the christmas party.
Report ONSLOW1974 August 16, 2018 1:58 PM BST
Get Oxford re-opened!!
Report dr . atkins August 16, 2018 2:11 PM BST
sorry but anybody surprised that towcester come to an end its just come to an end before i thought it would
Report irishone August 16, 2018 2:13 PM BST
I remember you being derided for being a miserable fecker when you predicted its failure doc
Report ONSLOW1974 August 16, 2018 2:21 PM BST
Monday - Harringay or Wembley
Tuesday- Stow
Wednesday- Harringay or Rye House
Thursday- Stow or Milton Keynes or Reading
Friday - Harringay or Wembley
Saturday - Stow

25/30 years ago.
Game done & dusted move on boys!! FINISHED
Report privatehire August 16, 2018 2:22 PM BST
American football September thank fack.
Report dr . atkins August 16, 2018 2:31 PM BST
but don't worry the good old lord will be ok because he's a toff and they never get the blame but really he's a chancer like del boy whos been found out for selling the family silver
Report sparrow August 16, 2018 2:33 PM BST
Monday Afternoon- Park Royal.
Monday Evening- Harringay.
Tuesday- Day off.
Wednesday Day off.
Thursday- Clapton.
Friday Afternoon- Park Royal
Friday Evening-Harringay.
Saturday Morning- Hackney.
Saturday Evening- Clapton.


All just a distant memory Sad
Report Captain carnage August 16, 2018 2:42 PM BST
Better to have lived, tried and then failed than never really tried at all.
Report sparrow August 16, 2018 2:48 PM BST
If you loved the game it could never be a failure.
Report metro john August 16, 2018 2:52 PM BST
Absolute idiots in charge of the sport,  obviously little or no communication taking place, and the greyhound media have over sold this track, I presume that plans to build a track in London must be under way (you can bet on it), and we all know that Greyhound racing should return to the inner city (preferably Monmore Green with refurbishment and new surface?) The whole sport looks in decline. Heads should roll over this.
Report privatehire August 16, 2018 3:06 PM BST
Sparrow. U av the memories. Take some1 like dave Clarke.  Whole life in front of him. Enthusiastic. Luvs the game. Wots he gona do. I flapped worked n all top kennels looked after all the  top dogs. I got them memories. He aint gona av many to take with him. The young kennelhand who luv the game. There ain't many. Feel sorry for them.
Report metro john August 16, 2018 3:08 PM BST
Most tracks suffering the indignity of running sprint races in large numbers just to satisfy the racing bookmaker owned media, and thus those with enthusiasm for the sport are in total dismay, The Derby should go to a track with a proven profitable understanding of their customers needs,(not many of them left if at all?) People are stopping their spending habits, 24 hour work life has and continues to upset large parts of the entertainments industry. Entrance prices need lowering, less racing not more  must be the way forward (get rid of the pathetic sprint races)
Report sparrow August 16, 2018 3:11 PM BST
Indeed private but he's too young to have seen the good years and that makes it a lot harder. I was used to standing in crowds of thousands most meetings which many have never seen.
Report metro john August 16, 2018 3:13 PM BST
Punters left watch 5 and 5-4-3 hounds racing on most afternoons, who the hell is gonna find interest? and who in hell can maintain that interest  with saturation of racing?
Report privatehire August 16, 2018 3:13 PM BST
You were blessed sparrow for sure. He,said only piggybacking the final throws of the game.
Report sparrow August 16, 2018 3:16 PM BST
Private.......Yet people on this forum are continually slating that young girl on RPGTV rather than encouraging younger enthusiasts.
Report privatehire August 16, 2018 3:25 PM BST
U will notice I av never had a pop. I know the draper family well. Steeped in the history of the sport. Travel anywhere if they av the right dog. I only met her once a year or so ago at Irish derby maybe 2 years ago. Not afraid to voice an opinion even then. Nice girl. Some people av the confidence to go on TV n talk naturally. Others av to work at it. It may come in time. To lambast somebody so young trying to make there way in the world I feel is wrong.
Report metro john August 16, 2018 3:26 PM BST
Until the racing public are encouraged to go racing on tracks they can afford with less meetings so they can follow the ever changing form and actually find an interest instead of confusion and information overload, then I fear the very worst!
Report metro john August 16, 2018 3:39 PM BST
I think on-course bookmakers should be given the freedom to create new markets exclusive to only on-course bookmakers (trap challenge betting without the fav and other potential exclusive offers, and the exchanges  stopped from offering the same? and trading in those individual track incentive markets, lets see the ring buzz once more, Betfair traders can continue, as normal, but  bookmakers need freedom and knowledge of whatever they can come up with exclusive rights? (perhaps impossible? but ideas and effort worth it?)
Report cardenden August 16, 2018 5:34 PM BST
this is the death of greyhound racing in britain,,,
Report Ravage Again August 16, 2018 5:37 PM BST
Yer the dead of uncompetitive dog racing you're spot on
Report cardenden August 16, 2018 5:43 PM BST
its has been struggling lately ,, but this has put the last  nail in the coffin
Report cardenden August 16, 2018 5:43 PM BST
very sad
Report wondersobright August 16, 2018 6:03 PM BST

Aug 16, 2018 -- 3:39PM, metro john wrote:


I think on-course bookmakers should be given the freedom to create new markets exclusive to only on-course bookmakers (trap challenge betting without the fav and other potential exclusive offers, and the exchanges

Report wondersobright August 16, 2018 6:03 PM BST
ffs
Report wondersobright August 16, 2018 6:04 PM BST
basically saying what a load of sh1t
Report wondersobright August 16, 2018 6:09 PM BST
don't worry jules says back a few winners and it will cheer us all up

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

bisto till I die
Report irishone August 16, 2018 6:11 PM BST
Marmite you mean .....ExcitedLaughLaugh
Report irishone August 16, 2018 6:12 PM BST
Its gonna be good on rpgtv tonight
They are gonna have to mention it
..... And they are the d opey feckers that hyped the place up
Report metro john August 16, 2018 6:13 PM BST
yes wondersobright, you visit the afternoon meetings to witness bookmakers also depressed with the game having to stand there 6 days a week at Monmore, with hardly any trade at all, enslaved! Watching sprint races that not many are interested in at all. Total overkill.
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y August 16, 2018 6:16 PM BST
I cannot remember the last time I've watched RPGTV, they all do my head in now. A big problem I see with greyhound racing is that when things fail and then it tries to reinvent itself it just wheels out the same bloody people it did before when it was a disaster, it's a total closed shop.

I've come to terms for quite a while that greyhound racing is not going to pull itself out of this slide, it is on it's last legs barely.
Report wondersobright August 16, 2018 6:21 PM BST
metro john they are paid to stand there to return an SP, otherwise there wouldn't be any bookmakers there as there are no punters there
Report wondersobright August 16, 2018 6:25 PM BST
yes PF...I wouldn't wanna be relying on working in greyhound racing to put food on my table
best advice you could give somebody is get out while you can or don't go into it in the 1st place SadSadSad
such a fkin depressing thing to say but that is the reality unfortunately

and as for punters, if you're like me & looking to take money out for the next 25-30 years then you need other things that you take money out other than greyhound racing, I figured that out a couple of years ago as prior to that I was all for specialising on 1 thing but not now
Report metro john August 16, 2018 6:36 PM BST
Obviously people fooled by false business model? People lying to each other? The wrong people in charge and in denial of the facts like rptv, elitists getting further and further away from reality!
Report metro john August 16, 2018 6:37 PM BST
They want the land for housing?
Report Ravage Again August 16, 2018 6:38 PM BST
We'll tony bullen was only of two presenters who told the truth about the track

The design of it was a total disaster

A three year old could have come up with a better track on a chuffing etchosketch Laugh
Report metro john August 16, 2018 6:38 PM BST
Capitalism broke methinks!
Report wondersobright August 16, 2018 6:38 PM BST
metro 6.36pm and 6.37pm now you are back on planet earth
Report metro john August 16, 2018 6:41 PM BST
Many more tracks likely to close, it reminds of Thatcher and pits closure lie.
Report wondersobright August 16, 2018 6:42 PM BST
ravage tony is an exception I agree but most of them are on their to arse lick everything
nothing else
not interested in rocking the boat for fear of having to leave the good ship the bisto express
I would pay good money to see that lot doing a proper day's work for a proper day's pay
Report metro john August 16, 2018 6:45 PM BST
nothing more than land investment wondersobright, they expanded to much, short term lies how can anyone believe anything revealed to the public? how come more racing than ever at a time of decline? simple question innit
Report dr . atkins August 16, 2018 6:47 PM BST
people went on like towcester was the savior of greyhound racing because it had nice food and the staff were polite give me a great running surface a catering van and good dog people anytime
Report Ravage Again August 16, 2018 6:50 PM BST
Exactly the only good thing Towcester was good for was building sand castles

You could build some monster castles and the sea never got em Laugh
Report cardenden August 16, 2018 6:50 PM BST
just heard it on rpgtv  , they were charging 8 pounds for a burger,, now it doesnt matter if it is free entry,,  that is terrible
Report wondersobright August 16, 2018 6:50 PM BST
yeah agree doc 3 things good company, a good pint of ale/cider & a decent burger van
what more do you need its a dog track ffs
really don't need the airs and graces and the glorified sh1te
Report wondersobright August 16, 2018 6:51 PM BST
just saying on there 8 pound for a burger ShockedShockedShocked
Report metro john August 16, 2018 6:51 PM BST
After so much planning gone into the racing fixtures , its hard to believe that no one informed the bgrb of the money problems?
Report metro john August 16, 2018 6:52 PM BST
media sensationalism
Report metro john August 16, 2018 6:55 PM BST
Where next for the Derby and other fixtures? These things take time, but lets see how quick and where?
Report dr . atkins August 16, 2018 7:00 PM BST
a friend of mine went to a wedding reception saturday night at towcester said it was empty plus they run out of peroni a  no no
Report Ravage Again August 16, 2018 7:01 PM BST
For the £8 did you get chips with your burger?

If so I might go this Saturday night Mischief
Report wondersobright August 16, 2018 7:03 PM BST
you don't even get the bread for the 8 quid, never mind any chips
Report privatehire August 16, 2018 7:04 PM BST
Still a total Towcester love in by Julie.  FFS it's closed, if u think its going to re open ur deluded. Like evry1 else wipe ur mouth n move on.
Report dr . atkins August 16, 2018 7:04 PM BST
burger chips and a milkshake at shake shack no change out of 20 pound
Report irishone August 16, 2018 7:04 PM BST
How do you know she swallows?
Report privatehire August 16, 2018 7:07 PM BST
Irish.Laugh
Report dr . atkins August 16, 2018 7:07 PM BST
you can expect no more for the gravy train experts no more easy money
Report irishone August 16, 2018 7:09 PM BST
all of a sudden julie wears her heart on her sleeve
According to private it aint her heart on her sleeve
Report wondersobright August 16, 2018 7:10 PM BST
once a bisto always a bisto
Report metro john August 16, 2018 7:21 PM BST
The bubble is burst, their vision of people betting at home, on their computers  and media devices TV is proving a bad dream, they are controlling and not in touch with reality, sorry to say it is Man verses  tech and Man is losing his/her jobs, entertainment etc the depression is thickening  and people have not got the cash. Fools gold and we are all victims, only a matter of time before we can't afford the media and TV then what? WE TURN IT OFF
Report metro john August 16, 2018 7:25 PM BST
Oh jesus someone just said it was a professional business model? ffs
Report metro john August 16, 2018 7:27 PM BST
Gold cup at Monmore and they are covering graders? on rptv
Report privatehire August 16, 2018 7:28 PM BST
Can't watch anymore. Only watched for couple of hrs since closed myou betfair account. Definition julie collier. A greyhound snob. Goodnight.
Report RothmanMike August 16, 2018 7:34 PM BST
Nearest track to Towcester is Henlow, and Kevin must be laughing all the way to the bank.
Racing at Henlow 7 days a week to help the displaced dogs and trainers,most of which have already done a stint at
Henlow.
Report RothmanMike August 16, 2018 7:46 PM BST
Sparrow, day off Tuesday.
I used to go to Stamford Bridge that day.
Willenhall on Wednesday, and forgotten what days were Bristol and Oxford and Hendon, but I did a BAGS meeting almost every day.
Never a great turnout but a great crack.
Report RothmanMike August 16, 2018 7:49 PM BST
I,for one will not miss Towcester dogs, and I live only 15 miles away.
I won't miss the commentator (Chapman) either.
Report SUNDERLAND GREYHOUND EXPERT August 16, 2018 7:49 PM BST
so so sad to see it go, was a well needed shot in the arm, gutted.
Report wondersobright August 16, 2018 7:51 PM BST
sorry mike yes it is henlow actually

henlow 35 miles
posh 54 miles
perry 60 miles
Report Ravage Again August 16, 2018 7:51 PM BST
Yer good to see mark Wallace has decided to leave Towcester and join a proper track like henlow
Report wondersobright August 16, 2018 7:53 PM BST
won't happen because of the media rights situation but would be great to see henlow back on TV on sundays
Report Ravage Again August 16, 2018 7:54 PM BST
Yer would love henlow to come back on rptv

Different gravy to Towcester
Report dr . atkins August 16, 2018 7:56 PM BST
is it a arc track ?
Report metro john August 16, 2018 8:01 PM BST
Not many Arc tracks gonna be left in 10 years
Report wondersobright August 16, 2018 8:02 PM BST
henlow's meetings are SiS doc so won't be shown on rptv
Report metro john August 16, 2018 8:02 PM BST
might as well start playing craps boys and girls,
Report privatehire August 16, 2018 9:29 PM BST
Big portions at henlow.Laugh
Report RothmanMike August 16, 2018 9:32 PM BST
Wonders,methinks there may be a few changes ahead.
Really interesting that despite all the carnage and criticism Kenlow just plods on regardless.
Kevin Boothby does his own thing and without any other hangers on,the track keeps performing.
Sure all the Savanna prefixed dogs causes confusion, but no one could accuse Kevin of fixing races for his own benefit.
Takes some believing but he invariably picks the wrong one, and he has multiple trainers.
Fair play to him.
Report Ravage Again August 16, 2018 10:06 PM BST
You re

I heard for £8 at henlow

You get a burger in a bun
Chips
Peas
A coke
And you get change

Much better than Towcester Happy
Report casemoney August 16, 2018 10:09 PM BST
Never a fan of the Actual Track but Fck me they tried Sad I am sad to hear this news ,Actually didn,t mind watching the Channel , Coverage 2nd to None ,another nail hammered into the Lid..

The derby this tear was Excellant WTF will it go next year ? Nothing to Gloat about here ,Thank fck the Running track wasnt

the Best because it would have been a Devistating Loss had that been the case ,for the Purists among us ,but a massive loss

to all concerned at the Track  ,Dreadful.

I am shocked to be Honest after a cracking derby to end up gone is Unreal Sad
Report woodmanchester August 17, 2018 7:26 AM BST
Metro, you give it 10 years. Bit optimistic?
Report Deltâ August 17, 2018 9:44 AM BST
I will miss Tia Patten Love
Report wondersobright August 18, 2018 9:09 PM BST
errol "lets be positive and hope there's a buyer out there for towc"

Laugh

you've gotta admire them

just wipe your face lads (the gravy from them) and face the facts, there's 1 less place to get a free lunch from now
Report Ravage Again August 18, 2018 10:15 PM BST
Error in the last couple of years has lost all credibility the stuff he comes out with now

The only think he good at is his lay keeps winning
Report metro john August 19, 2018 10:17 AM BST

Aug 17, 2018 -- 7:26AM, woodmanchester wrote:


Metro, you give it 10 years. Bit optimistic?


Could well be woody, the crash is under way?

Report metro john August 19, 2018 10:20 AM BST
Only those in charge of accounts and owners can dictate that, we can only speculate
Report jackboo August 19, 2018 10:21 AM BST
why dont betfair buy it , and have a casino hotel 7 days a week
Report metro john August 19, 2018 10:25 AM BST
Its in the wrong place jackboo, plenty in the right areas are possibly struggling, take away the media promise and the sport could not function with this amount of racing both Greyhounds and many turf tracks, this is just speculation but methinks the racing calender needs cutting in half.
Report metro john August 19, 2018 10:27 AM BST
I amsadtosee the turf track go, but not the Greyhound track, soft sand, 500m too long, anddifficult for foot soldiers
Report the.mad.dog.man August 19, 2018 10:32 AM BST
jackboo betfair should have got the stow they could have had there offices there as well as greyhound racing
Report Stow_judge August 19, 2018 3:02 PM BST
Where are the likeliest next tracks for the Derby, should baldie or someone not buy the gaff?
Report privatehire August 19, 2018 3:16 PM BST
I think that ship may av sailed. A lot of the smaller trainers that were on b4 couldn't, get
Runs for there dogs an left for pastures new. Now a significant number have left and signed up at other tracks the contracts are binding. I,m not sure they would get any dogs.
Report Ravage Again August 19, 2018 3:52 PM BST
Yeap all the trainers will have moved on signed new contracts

And who can blame them

Games up for toastcestor
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