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According to the Racing Post
Bit of an egg on the face moment if it doesn't now.
Towcester set to get the green light for Derby
BY JONATHAN KAY 2:26PM 21 DEC 2016
TOWCESTER is expected to be confirmed as the new home of the Derby by the end of the year, subject to legal and contractual matters being finalised.
Towcester chief executive Kevin Ackerman reportedly travelled to the GBGB's London headquarters on Tuesday and it is understood the board's Derby working party has settled on the sponsorship package offered by the Northamptonshire venue following a period when another non-track specific sponsorship offer was also seriously considered.
Central Park in Sittingbourne and Sheffield had joined Towcester in putting themselves forward as a replacement for Wimbledon, which will close in March, although the key aim for the GBGB was agreeing sponsorship terms first.
GBGB chairman Tom Kelly yesterday refused to either confirm or deny that Towcester had been chosen venue, but said: "It will be really disappointing now to me personally if we couldn't make an announcement next week."
Ackerman, who has always championed Towcester's cause, said: "It's difficult to comment at this stage as we want to respect the process."
Bit of an egg on the face moment if it doesn't now.
Towcester set to get the green light for Derby
BY JONATHAN KAY 2:26PM 21 DEC 2016
TOWCESTER is expected to be confirmed as the new home of the Derby by the end of the year, subject to legal and contractual matters being finalised.
Towcester chief executive Kevin Ackerman reportedly travelled to the GBGB's London headquarters on Tuesday and it is understood the board's Derby working party has settled on the sponsorship package offered by the Northamptonshire venue following a period when another non-track specific sponsorship offer was also seriously considered.
Central Park in Sittingbourne and Sheffield had joined Towcester in putting themselves forward as a replacement for Wimbledon, which will close in March, although the key aim for the GBGB was agreeing sponsorship terms first.
GBGB chairman Tom Kelly yesterday refused to either confirm or deny that Towcester had been chosen venue, but said: "It will be really disappointing now to me personally if we couldn't make an announcement next week."
Ackerman, who has always championed Towcester's cause, said: "It's difficult to comment at this stage as we want to respect the process."
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What a shame that the f'd up the track design. Straights are too short. It's all bends and there appears to be a significant track bias to the inside. (Trap "grading" may mask this, but it looks quite clear to the eye)
Towcester is also on Attheraces Saturdays 9 a.m from xmas eve. |
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This is a joke, the signs are the track is tough to work on, the wide runners are disadvantaged and the place is in the middle of nowhere.
Oh dear. All down to the GRA counts |
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Great news for the sport,it had to go there imo,we know the circuit isnt ideal but its a lot more "derby" than that goldfish bowl they were seriously considering.
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its not perfect and there is plenty of work for them still to do
pushing the winning line closer to the 1st bend so that they can re-position the 500 traps away from the 4th bend narrowing the bends, possibly bringing the inside rail out a little better camera angles so we can see a more head on shot of them at the traps eg sunders, notts, don etc 3 sets of traps that are all the same (500 traps best imo) a winning line get started with these things ASAP please and then we can have a look at how open race dogs run the track from all trips and then they've got time to tinker again before the derby if necessary but I am with pat on this it can be a positive for the sport IF they listen and act |
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races like the 9.56 last night just cannot happen at a derby standard track
as you come off the rail you are facked |
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Best news for the sport in decades. It was a no-brainer decision in the best interets of the long term
future of the sport. I cannot possibly see how anyone could argue otherwise. Agree with everything you say wonders. I also would like to see alterations to the first bend etc and everyone should continue to push Towcester to make continual improvements. The blinkered pessimism and lack of long term view that many still hold towards Towcester is disappointing but then again we did vote by a majority to all become considerably poorer and less tolerant last june in a referendum! If Towcester succeeds there is then a business model for other companies to consider investing in a greyhound track. Would it be bigger than 10/1 that a kempton/sandown etc would consider adopting a similar model. Towcester will bring in a more affluent crowd, many of whom will hopefully take up ownership. The image of the game will be improved dramatically. They are committed to welfare and crucially are not beholden to the major off-course scum of the earth betting firms. Bring it on. They will put on a superb show, the Irish will be over in their droves and other major competitions and festivals may well be built/saved off the back of it. |
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everyone should continue to push Towcester to make continual improvements
Towcester will bring in a more affluent crowd, many of whom will hopefully take up ownership. The image of the game will be improved dramatically. They are committed to welfare and crucially are not beholden to the major off-course scum of the earth betting firm excellent points, agree 100%  |
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Why am I the only one that ever says "bank the bends" ?
When they did this at Harringay it made one hell of a difference. |
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Well Done Towcester
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Well done Towcester!
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I stopped reading when i came to the name Tom Kelly
Words fail me of this man... |
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The Envelopes must have arrived ...
Any news on when the track will be Rebuilt,because I will tell you this ,they may have one derby there in its current State ,they will never hold another . The prize money will also Need to be very Attractive because the Irish will not Bother ... A disaster for the Sport and for all lovers of Greyhound Racing  THE TRACK NEEDS TO BE REDESIGNED .. BEYOND BELIEF THAT IT HAS COME TO THIS  |
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agree casemonry they have a chance to turn it into the best greyhound track in england if they don't do nothing to the track it will be the end of the greyhound derby
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Donkey had it Right when I was talking to Him ,said 2 years Shef , Let TOW sort the track
then go to Tow ,would have been spot on .. If its fcked this year who is Going Back ?? No one Fck the Restaurants and camera Angles They will not make up for an excuse for Racing . Its just insane .. |
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Yeap need to move inside rail outwards a lot
Narrow the whole circuit straights and bends Make the straights longer Bank the bends But if the management stick with the eight dog racing farce then I guess the track will be wider matt chapmans gob  |
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Yes and saw them the 7 and 8 boxes off
 I will actually Vomit if I have sit and Listen to HOBB going on about how fckin great it all is, and The restaurant Wine Menu are Excellant .. If its a top class Meal people are after Fck off to the Ritz imo |
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Doubt I'll go for any of the rounds to watch dots along the back straight. Lovely big screen yes, but can watch a screen in the local bookies. Might go for final, though
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Give it a chance case.
The derby has been run for many years at a complete rotting cesspit. I was too ashamed to take my missus or friends outside of greyhound racing. The place stunk of impending doom and despair. It was symptomatic of everything bad about dog racing over the last 35 years. For any chance of the industry progressing the derby had to go to the showpiece track in the country. I admit the track would benefit from improvements but that really isn't the most important thing at the moment. Wembley was the iconic stadium for billions of kids obsessed with football in the 650/60/70/80's. The pitch was ****. The grass was too long, the pitch was too big, it was garbage but no one gave a shiiite. If Walthamstow had the derby it would have been glorious despite the most ridiculous first bend in dog racing. Please think about what position you hope dog racing to be in 10 years time. We may have another couple of classy horse/greyhound tracks. We may just have several million more coming into the industry from sponsors not currently involved/new owners/overseas media rights/increased betting turnover. Otherwise we will have a derby held in some northern outpost for about £50k to the winner, in an underinvested decaying track. And the whole industry will be under the grip of bags/off course firms. The game would keep retracting until it would be evebntually run in completely empty stadiums with dogs running without names. |
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Will the Derby be aired on ATR ??
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Whoes knows maybe
The other thing to consider is I think ATR usually have repeats on the racing on sat morning but some of the time it's presenters talking about horse racing and footy So wonder how much between race coverage the dogs will get Unless do a red button two picture type thing |
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Great news...for once in this game the brown envelope brigade have got it right. As said before it isn't all perfect at Towcester but i have every confidence in this forward thinking management that they will listen and act unlike the other dinosaur managements that have let it all go...well done to them all in charge....!
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Will Tom and The GBGB boys be Moving to TOW, shirley there is office Space available and they can save our industry the Millions They have been wasteing on the City office space they have been renting ... They might even be able to put up a bit of Fckin Prize Money for the Great Event ...
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It must be good news for the sport the GRA will no longer promote the Derby. The fact they did not consider Belle Vue or Perry Bar suggests those two venues are earmarked for disposal. Towcester are keen supporters of the sport and will promote it well. Surely its time for those within the sport to purchase those venues away from the GRA
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Oh dear the irony.... "now for the sake of the sport we all need to get behind the chosen towcester "
Heard that somewhere before .... brexit referendum ? .... american president election ? What a fecking joke ..... it was a democratic devision ?.... feck off ..... how much did it take to buy the gbgb mister kelly ? |
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*decision
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There was about 10 very old men (who wanted to stay in the dark ages) and all the
off course firms who are scared of Towcester who wanted the derby to stay much as it has been for the last 20 years. Thank the lord somehow - probably Fluin/Turner - have realised that for the sake of the sport this was just about its only hope of steadying the decline to oblivion. Just about every top class trainer in the UK and Ireland, plus just about every major owner support the decision. |
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Whatever track people wanted or did not want the Derby to be run at is now immaterial and we all may as well get behind Towcester and hope the competition is a big success. I have never been to Towcester, have watched very few races there and have not bet there but i will be there on June 24th and i am sure it will be a great night and hopefully the whole competition on the track is a big success.
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pf for your input which I was waiting as your absence was missed as you are a youngster I applaud your positivity I also believe that it will be promoted to an level on par with its irish counterpart lets just hope your trainers continue there support
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THE same thought processes led to the hitler youth movement .
The assumption behind this move is that the lemmings will follow no matter what ..... this will kill the english derby. |
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irish you on drugs to compare this decision to the following of hitler youth dog racing is not politics as the dogs don't vote
probably too deep for you that one suggest you carry on baiting woody just remember no 2 dog tracks are the same |
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Just Remember we Knew it was TOW 3 months ago ,Big load of old fanny be fed to people ..
 Wonder how much money has gone out of the GBGB budget regarding deciding on which track Comical tbh |
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agree .greyhound racing no more for me
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What we had after this years Derby was a competition with no sponsor and then shortly after that a competition with no track to run it at.
It was then asked for tracks who where interested in hosting the competition to put forward their interest, only 3 track did and we where ledt with either Towcester, Sittingbourne or Sheffield. Since then Towcester have submitted their plans for hosting the competition along with the sponsorship they have for the competition. A far as i am aware neither Sittingbourne or Sheffield had everything that Towcester have in place so there was no decision, it had to go to Towcester. As for this killing the English Derby, the English Derby a week ago was a competition with no sponsor or track to run at, it now has a home for whatever period they have got the contract for and it's got a sponsor. I would say it's saved the greyhound derby not killed it. |
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the.mad.dog.man
23 Dec 16 19:47 Joined: 11 Dec 01 | Topic/replies: 6,762 | Blogger: the.mad.dog.man's blog agree .greyhound racing no more for me punting or owning perspective |
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pf young man well said too many pessimistic punters on here as an owner I am glad we have a venue
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pf has it nailed imo,we have a home for the derby,one we can all be proud of,on the dark side the mrs asked me can she come this year to the derby on hearing the news,fkin towcester,come back the floating logathon,all is forgiven
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"Dog racing is not politics"
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"Dog racing is not politics"
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